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Old 06-22-2003, 04:51 PM
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Time to buy Springs -- need your help pls.

The modding bug has worked it's way into my suspension now ..

Exhaust will come last .. but right now, I want springs:

I want the most CONSERVATIVE drop .. 1" or less. I want the drop to look even all around, and non-boy-racer. Please advise. Trying to keep it under $200.00 total for the front and rears. Thanks in advance..

(Jesal .. pls. chime in on this -- i liked your drop, how many inches was it dropped?)

Raj
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that's easy. comptech springs, all the way.


you might be able to pick up a used set for $200. expect at least another $100 for install. more if you have it done at a dealer.
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oh, i missed the even thing. you might concider the h&r oe's. the comptechs will give a little rake.
Old 06-22-2003, 05:12 PM
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matt --

thanks for the reply -- is your car dropped? did you do the HR fronts and comptech rears? (or is it the other way around?)

how does it handle after the springs?
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i have the tein ss coilovers.

for you, i would really recommend the CT springs, they are the best way to lower our cars. i had them, but i wanted to go lower. the handling will be much better with the springs, and the ride will still be smooth. it will have a sportier feel to it.

you shouldn't have any problems finding some pics of CT drops around here. i might even have a couple of my car.
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The CT's have a nice OEM-type of drop... I have seen BlueCL6's car and it looks nice. I used H&R springs with 1-coil cut up front. It makes is very even (most other springs have a rake associated with them... higher up front).... and about 3/4" lower than the Comptechs. 1.5 finger gap between the wheel and fenderwell.
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allmotor, do you have the h&r sport?
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Comptechs ar good. I loved them when I had them. Riding on Teins now.
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Comptech drop with a rake????

if anything the rear is slightly lower than the front
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Originally posted by mattg
allmotor, do you have the h&r sport?
Yup... sport.
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Comptech springs seem to have different drops for the cl and tl.

Heres my comptech drop on my TLS, i dont remember how much it dropped exactly.
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do the comptech springs require a camber kit? they dont drop anywhere near 1.5" so i thought they didnt?
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they dont need a camber kit
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Neuspeed is what I ride with and I am very happy with that. It's not too low, handeling is improved, and ride quality is not sacraficed... for what it is worth
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Originally posted by zigzagzig
do the comptech springs require a camber kit? they dont drop anywhere near 1.5" so i thought they didnt?
the drop is 1.5"f, .75"r.
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Originally posted by lou
Comptech drop with a rake????

if anything the rear is slightly lower than the front
whats in your trunk?
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ahh yes, i had a two 10s in the back of my trunk.. so that weighed it down
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Originally posted by mattg
whats in your trunk?
just some DEAD weight I need to dispose of
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Originally posted by mattg
the drop is 1.5"f, .75"r.
1.5"f, 1.0" rear
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it says 1.25"f, 1.0"r. on the CT site.


so i was completely wrong. :o
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
The CT's have a nice OEM-type of drop... I have seen BlueCL6's car and it looks nice. I used H&R springs with 1-coil cut up front. It makes is very even (most other springs have a rake associated with them... higher up front).... and about 3/4" lower than the Comptechs. 1.5 finger gap between the wheel and fenderwell.
You are still on stock wheels and tires....right? Please post a pic. How is your ride? How much drop did you gain by cutting off one coil?
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Originally posted by mattg
it says 1.25"f, 1.0"r. on the CT site.


so i was completely wrong. :o

that's what i thought...
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Originally posted by zigzagzig
they dont drop anywhere near 1.5"...

1.25" is pretty damn close to 1.5", and after they settle they will be at 1.5".


so you = wrong.


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Originally posted by mattg
it says 1.25"f, 1.0"r. on the CT site.


so i was completely wrong. :o
dont believe everything you read...H&R o.e. site says .75 f .50 r on the CL try 1.0 f 1.25 rear the comps will drop you every bit of 1.5 front and right at 1.0 rear ..personally i like the additional drop the H&R's give to the rear...the flat look, to me looks best on the CL...the TRD springs fro example go 1.25/1.75 for the solara but that car has alot of foward rake from the factory ,but it looks great on the TRD drop
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we used to talk about using H&R o.e. s front and comp rear for a perfect 1.0 inch drop and the comp front and H&R rear for a more level 1.5/1.25 ...
also if you spent alittle more you could kill two birds with one stone by just buying the KONI yellows for as little as 400$ new and drop your car 1.0 front .75 rear using the shocks adjustable perch
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Originally posted by mattg
1.25" is pretty damn close to 1.5", and after they settle they will be at 1.5".


so you = wrong.


:P

i was referring to the inital drop...but i also forgot about the settling. hope i dont have problems with camber. guess we'll just have to see after i get em installed
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i think the perfect drop is hr race in front and eibach pro kit in back
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for the 1.75 * that would be good
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Originally posted by zigzagzig
i was referring to the inital drop...but i also forgot about the settling. hope i dont have problems with camber. guess we'll just have to see after i get em installed
1.5 to 1.65 is the initial drop of the comps front
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why would comptech say 1.25 in the front then?
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1.25"f. is what it says at www.comptechusa.com
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Originally posted by mattg
1.25"f. is what it says at www.comptechusa.com
they also say you get 30hp to the ground by adding headers
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and they have a dyno to prove it

http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dyno/2000CLSplot.pdf


must suck to pay a fortune for your mods and get no gains. :P
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I installed used comptech springs (settled) and measured 1 3/8" droop (drop) at the front and 1 1/8" lower at the rear. Stock shocks.
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Originally posted by mattg
1.25"f. is what it says at www.comptechusa.com
and why would H&R say .75/.50 when it's 1.0 /1.25 as i said dont believe every thing you read...now since you have the comptech link goto the springs for the accord ...look at there description...1.25/1.0 hum thats weird ..they have the exact same part number yet that cars weight and weight distribution is totally different,how could the springs drop both cars the same?....let me also add if you add springs after your cars been around awhile then i guess you would see less of a drop since your car would have settled first but if you change them out when theyre new...believe me it's every bit of 1.5 front upon initial install
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"and why would H&R say .75/.50 when it's 1.0 /1.25 as i said dont believe every thing you read"

H&R drop specs are for the Accord V6 because that is what they are designed for. H&R and Eibach do NOT make springs specifically for the TLS.

CT on the other hand are specifically for the TL Type S.

H&R OE will be the most conservative drop but as someone has said, will drop the rear more than the front. Actually, one of the nicests conservative drops I've seen are H&R OE front only.

My preference is Comptech. Take a long look at posted pics and then decide.
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Originally posted by hemants
"and why would H&R say .75/.50 when it's 1.0 /1.25 as i said dont believe every thing you read"

H&R drop specs are for the Accord V6 because that is what they are designed for. H&R and Eibach do NOT make springs specifically for the TLS.

CT on the other hand are specifically for the TL Type S.

H&R OE will be the most conservative drop but as someone has said, will drop the rear more than the front. Actually, one of the nicests conservative drops I've seen are H&R OE front only.

My preference is Comptech. Take a long look at posted pics and then decide.
the CT springs share the same part number for 98+ accord V6 /99+ TL and '01 CL and were available in 1998...H&R told me there springs were designed for the TL though i dont believe them...
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Comptech. Nicest drop for our CL-S. No problems. Nice,
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