Zootking

I kind of like it, but wanted opinions........ http://www.ltbmotorsport.com/spherealum.html

jimcol711

- a - roni!! the San Fransisco treat!! DING DING!!!

Zootking

well.....if that's rice.....which one isn't.....other than the stock one?

Zapata

zootking,
Don't listen to Jim......he has 6speed envy. I am looking at shift knobs to and that is one of my choices. MOMO also makes a cool carbon fiber knob.

soopa

thats not rice.

theres nothing rice about a plain aluminum knob.


if thats rice then our stock Type S knobs are the riciest.

like zapata said... dont listen to jim... he thinks everything is rice despite having fake blue bulbs in his road lamps


thats a nice knob.

jimcol711

hahah, fake blue bulbs seriously, i dont see the point of flubbing up an interior with a damn shiny billiard ball...i dunno, whats wrong with the stock shift knob?? if i had a 6 speed CL, id be tryin to find a way to get one of the "type S" knobs from the automatic model in the car, that would look cool...i just dont like the idea of ricing out an interior with that glorified cannonball

Mugen_Power

Your mom is rice...

Go ahead with the shift knob purchase, Zoot. That one looks real nice. MOMO makes some high quality shit.

The only way a shift knob could be rice is if it was neon and glowed in the dark.

The term rice has really lost its meaning on this board, people are saying it just to say it.


Bye

JasonT

$80 for a shift knob? Is that a normal price? That's expensive!

Shawn S

That looks like the Aluminum version of the one I have.

Just a word of warning. That sucker is gonna be HOT in the summer and ICE COLD in the winter.
If it’s metal it’s gonna hold the temp of the surrounding air.

Shawn S

Here’s mine……….

Shawn S

And for those that scream RICE……….
Here is PROOF that a lower shifter will improve the performance of the car.
The LOWER ball shifter will SHORTEN the throw in-between gears.

It can’t be RICE if it has a positive function on the performance of the car.

Shawn S

Slimey

Not rice, but nice.

I've been considering this one for myself: http://www.ltbmotorsport.com/ltbmoto...irleather.html It's on sale for a few $$ off. Maybe...

Zapata

hmmm i like!

Zootking

just placed my order...this is the one I chose...opted not for the all alluminum one.....

http://www.ltbmotorsport.com/ltbmoto...acaircar1.html

edgalang

That's what I have.

Shawn S

Whatever floats your boat, but that just doesn’t look right on an AUTO. :shakehd: :shakehd:

Shawn S

edgalang

Well I understand. But it was a gift, and someone wanted to buy my stock knob so in the end I came up ahead without any effort. I agree to an extent that Momo knobs are a "little" to expensive for something that does nothing...but personally, if I had the stick, I wouldnt get a round ball. Shorter throws yes...but less ergonomic :shakehd:

oghondaman

That knob is pretty big.Hope you have a big hand.Recommend going to a store that you can acually put it in your hand to get a feel.Also recommend to get the boot collar for the Momo knobs.Make a clean install with the stock boot.I have the Momo Combat.Thats the shit!

BC

Shift knob w/neon? Hmmmm.....just kidding.

DDT-TypeS

Curious, how the hell did you manage to make the shaft lower? I mean from your diagram, it looks like the ball knob is covering the shaft..basically situating it lower down on the shaft compared to the stock knob..the strange thing is the height of the ball knob is shorter than the stock knob...so how did you manage to put the ball knob on and still not see the THREADS on the shaft???

I'd like to do that too..but I don't understand how you can reduce your shift lever shift distance since the shift shaft is the same height??

Did you cut the shaft to make the ball fit? If it's an illusion, changing the knob will NOT REDUCE SHIFT DISTANCE...??

edgalang

Momo shift knobs are hollow all the way to the top, whereas the stock knob is not. Although the shaft may be the same height, the fact of the matter is the momo knobs reduce the overall height of the shaft+knob. I personally installed mine in such a way that when you shift to gears 1-2 (auto), there literally is less than a 1/4 of a cm from the bottom most part of the knob to the top of the shift gates. Unlike manual trannys, my purpose of the knob is to get it out of the way as much as possible (mostly for looks). Personally I'd rather have the knob that low all the time (through all the gears)...but unfortunately the closer I put it in Park, the higher the shaft becomes. Any lower than the way I put it now, I wouldnt be able to gate shift past gear 4.

Scooter

i'm sorry, but i still don't see the connection between a MOMO and performance upgrades...if a person can't shift, what is he accomplishing??? as a result, the knob is nothing more than a cosmetic mod...big deal, the knob reduces shifting distance...if yer a good shifter, that inch less space amounts to what time-wise??? honestly, between the speed of yer hand moving the shifter from gear to gear and the inch of space u save from gear to gear, how much time do u save??

if someone were to go to the 1/4 mile track and post time slips of stock shifter and a MOMO shifter or any after-mkt shifter, then i can understand where u guys r coming from...but for now, i just don't see the point...sorry

Zootking

Scooter, you're probably right, its just another way for me to spend $100, but i think that the new knob looks better than the stock one. It may reduce the amount of mis-shifts and so forth, but all in all, its just another way for people to customize their automobiles.

Shawn S

That drawing I did is NOT to scale.
I just whipped it up on AutoCAD because there was an argument once where someone said that lowering the knob wouldn’t reduce the shifting throw.
I did this layout to show the geometry to the guy.

Like was noted above, the MOMO knob makes the top of the ball about 1” lower.
The stock knob is about 2 ½” high and only threaded about ¾”.
The MOMO is about 1 ½” high and the stock shaft goes up INSIDE of it almost the entire way.
That’s what makes the overall height LOWER.

Hope this helps………

Shawn S

Shawn S

Scooter,

It’s hard to explain, but it does make a difference in the “feel” when shifting.

The stock knob is a hunk of plastic wrapped with leather.
The MOMO base is made of metal and held directly to the shaft with three setscrews.
This provides better feedback of the gate when shifting.

It’s really hard to explain.

The best thing I can compare it to is a steering wheel.
Take a nice THICK leather wrapped steering wheel compared to something you’d find on a 1985 Escort.
They’re both round with grips and allow you to turn the wheels, but one is a hell of a lot nice to hold onto when the roads get twisty.

Shawn S

Stock03CLS

I understand how it might feel different, but it won't increase the performance of the car. I can also see it reducing the amount of travel your arm makes when shifting.

But I can see it increasing the amount of force you would need to apply to the shift knob to shift gears. Shorter lever = more required force to produce the same action.

Besides, the clutch isn't any faster, so the whole "better performance" thing doesn't make much sense to me. If you are a bad shifter, a different knob isn't going to make any difference at all.

But, whatever. To each his own.

Zapata

Short-throws do help when shifting. I have know idea what you people are talking about when you say there is no performance gaine.

Shawn S

I’m done arguing.

It looks great and adds a MINOR performance advantage.
It won’t correct a bad driver and it won’t subtract a second from you quarter mile time but it gives you a slightly better “feel” when shifting quickly.

It looks HOT and FEELS nice. End of story and goodbye.
KISS IT :pfawk: :pfawk: :pfawk:

Shawn S

Zootking

Well put Shawn S, i guess some people just dont understand

bullaculla

I have to agree with shawn again on the shift knob, It just feels sooo much better! I was thinking about the same knob but thankfully, I changed my mind. I have the same one as "edgalang" except mine is a six speed and even though its leather, the little alum. ring gets hot as f**k in the sun! If it was all alum. I dont think I could drive with out the A.C. on high for about ten minutes first. just buy the thing and dont post anything about it. Some people just hate shift knobs

edgalang