babyblue

Thanks bro, very well said.... Request for members, if I decide to sell the car, I will let everyone know with a post in the black market... Can the PMs regarding dibs on the parts, stop for the time being, thanks.

Bluto

My house appreciates more in a year than I make.




babyblue,

If you are serious, have a friend drive you to another Infiniti dealer. Get a quote on the car/lease you want and don't even mention a trade, tell them you don't have a trade. Lie. Then compare numbers. I think the current dealer is sugarcoating your trade, and you on the lease.

hemants

If you're married with a house then kiddies can't be too far away right?

I'd say keep the CLS, save/make lots of money, and then by an 06 TL with SH AWD and a back seat for kids!!!

I personally find the Infiniti interiors a bit stale compared to Acura, but then I prefer wood to silver and carbon fibre so it's a matter of taste.

babyblue

I thought of that, which is why I have emailed 4 other dealers in my area for lease quotes... Planning on visiting the top two to see if I can lower the payments. Thanks though..

zamo

they are making the difference with the G35 sale price !!

now try to ask them to buy the car WITHOUT buying the G35 from them

zamo

$5,000 down ? for a lease?

$538 a month sounds a bit steep. Unless its a ZERO DOWN lease.

do you have any idea what is the money factor, residual, sale price, and delers fees?

Check this link: http://www.carbuyingtips.com/lease2.htm

There is an Excel download that will help you determine if if are being RIPPED.

DarkSithCL

iTrader: (1)

It all hurts, esp if you have lost the passion for the CLS, for wantever reason...whatever you do...pray about it and the best avenue will be the one that puts you most at ease with as little stress as possible...the cost, well...if its God's plan, He'll make a way that will take nothing from the family...remember, life's too short...but I am getting closer to 40!

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babyblue-

I too have thought about trading my car in on a new G35c, but one thing stopped me (well besides my wife). For me it was a bad business decision. Yeah I want one really bad, but for me it was a bad finacial move. The emotinal side of me thinks it is a great idea, but the busness side thinks I'm crazy.

If I were you I would try to sell your car privatly with or without your mods. Removing a trade from a deal helps you in many ways...When i buy a car I always do the deal without a trade, and then add the trade at the last second. Remeber 37k is alot of money why rush into this deal.

Something else to look at...I am not sure where you work but Nissan/Infiniti has a pretty good deal called VPP (vehical purchase program). If your company participates this allows you to get a pretty smokin deal on a new car. They also give you better finacing deals as well. Do a google on Nissan VPP and you should get some hits.

See the dealerships love to confuse you...that is how they make all of thier money. They figure the less you understand the deal the more money they make. Do not be impatient, take your time and remove all emotion from this business transaction.

I think that it sounds like a lot of money for a lease on a G35c...I would do somemore research before buying this car.
Just my 2 cents...
Good luck!

jimcol711

get out while you can, the CL-S resale value is sinking faster than the titanic

03typeS6spd

its weird, my cl leather just produced all this excrement and shat all over this audi a6 that was sitting next to me this morning...


^ go bash on the cl-s somewhere else, or at least say something constructive


and i like the fx

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3.2cl-s

If the car is $36,000 and you put $5,000 down with 5% intersest for 48months with a residual value of $15,000 the car should be exaclty $430.97/month

How do they get over $500 at all......

oonowindoo

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36000 IS just the sticker price. u have to add another 3000 for tax and license. and 5% is annual interestes.

GAME FLOw

I am also moving to an 05 G35 in October, that price is way to HIGH should be at $430 / month or less!!!!!!!! math is math , the 05 has a nice boost in HP and the car is SICK though......

GAME FLOw

They are running a much better deal at 39 months round Here, cheaper than 48 months ...

zamo

not for the 6-speed i bet

oonowindoo

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now it is a time to buy 04s..... u can get them at invoice or a few hundred above.

3.2cl-s

Ok, so with tax, assuming 7%, it should be $489.00 month.

I'm not in high school, i know interest is annual

zamo

Cant see the FINEPRINT tho.
But I believe there is a BIG ASS out of pocket $$ needed

3.2cl-s

looks like $4300 down + dealer fee + bank fee 7xx beacon score... and i think it says 24 month lease, 24 month lease would be cool

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

Damn, I would definitely not do this deal. I've thought about trading in for a Z (G35c seems overpriced to me), but just not worth it.

Oh, and by the way, a co-worker of mine has a 2003 540i 6-speed which he got new last year. He leases it.... he put $0 (read that ZERO) down and pays $630/mo which includes all taxes, everything (the payment is actually $600/mo and the taxes are $30/mo). Basically, if he pre-paid the tax, the payment would be $600/mo.

Personally, I'd pay $600/mo for a BMW 540i over $540/mo for a G35c any freakin day of the week.

But, to be totally honest.... paying that much for a depreciating asset is just flat out nuts, regardless of which car you would be in. Keep the CL, and save your money. You'll be much happier a few years from now when you have tens of thousands of dollars in your bank account. Need to buy something now? Invest in real estate. My wife and I made a little under $200k on our place in 18 months (assuming someone buys it at asking price, which should happen). I'd take that any day over losing thousands a year on a car.....

F900

yes its 4300 down + bank fee of $543 with a Fico Score of 700, but it only allows for 10,000miles a year

Thats your typical South FL, Auto Ad, mostly full of crap just to get you in the door, i love the way they have Angel's comments about him purchasing a tire plan, funny stuff.

Also another interesting point next door to that dealer is one of the biggest rip off auto dealer in the whole if S Florida, Fairbanks Dodge

MethodRN

Well let me drop my 2cents into the collection bin. I also plan on jumping ship more than likely into a 350Z. I loose out on the luxury side, but gain a six speed and company I can somewhat trust. I have always driven a Nissan, from my first 200SX SER back in HS, Pathfinder I gave my grandparents, and 240SX that got me through college. Never a problem. Then I buy an Acura cause the CL-S was the best bang for the buck at the time. I wanted something luxurious yet sporty. Great car, then my tranny died, not once but twice. All I get is a rebuilt tranny then a "BAND-AID" fix. Oh yeah, and 100K warranty which I already had cause I purchased and extended warranty. Not worth mine and wife's saftey, or anyone else on the road w/ me for that matter.
My situation differs a little in that I plan on financing not leasing. I don't have too much left on my car as it is and am willing to take a little hit. The deal you're getting sounds like a load of hog wash for a lease. Shop around, look at some other cars like BMW, Audi, Mazda, Subaru (Legacy if you don't a boy racer car.)SAAB, Lexus is a brand you should check out. Their new IS is due out.
I aggree w/ the opinions given. I'm not bashing my Acura, still love the car, just don't wanna take a chance, plus what happens after 100K. Don't go jumping into a deal cause they're offering you a good one for your CL-S, you already know that. Sorry this is so long.

zamo

Ok, I spent 5 minutes filling data for in the excel file for a G35C 6-speed with no extra option at MSRP.

I considered a 68% residual after 36 months.

Target Price: $33,290 (http://www.carsdirect.com/build/opti...&restore=false)

ZERO DOWN

$698.01 due at inceptions (tag, license, first payment, tax)

$448.01 / month (includign 6% tax)


Play around with the numbers.

http://users.adelphia.net/~ozamora/docs/regm.xls

3.2cl-s

I highly doubt the G35 will keep a 68% residual value after 3 years.....r u kidding?
also what interest rate did you use, and is that include tax?

zamo

I was just assuming numbers

I updated the file based on this updated residual link: http://www.cars.com/carsapp/latimes/...residuals.tmpl

59% for the G35C after 36 months.

Inceptions: $779.88 (ZERO DOWN)

Montly payments: $529.88 INC Tax (6%)

Money factor: 0.002 (4.8% APR)

http://users.adelphia.net/~ozamora/docs/regm.xls

F900

well given the fact here in S Florida, you see alot of them on the road, it would not surprise me if you will be about to purchase a lease return for somewhere around 20K if not less in 3years.

There a nice car, but like that Car.com review stated there not worth the MSRP.

babyblue

Well I would like to thank everyone for their ... Give me more insight, so once I return will go back to the dealer to see what else I can get... Will update you guyz once I have the final numbers.. Thanks again everyone...

zamo

As someone already said before, work the numbers with NO trade in and in just right before you agree on the final numbers add the trade in.

In theory the $17k they offer you will go as CASH/TRADE-IN and again, in theory, it will considerably redude your lease payment to less than $100 (play with the XLS).

I am not sure if you owe money on your current car; if yes then you just will take the difference (TRADE_IN - PAYOFF) as CASH against the lease.

Good luck and be sure not to get FOOLED by the assholes (dealers).

123456SPEED

Juniorbean, I'm with you, I will gladly let someone else pay the extra $5-$10k to drive it off the lot first!
As far as real estate, here in Austin, a crazy r.e. market, my condo has quadrupled in value in 10 years, (it's paid for ) and it only cost me double what the CL cost me.

zamo

same here in South Florida. Very good investment.
Problem is, you do not see the money unless you sell it

And yeah, I was looking yesterday for a used 2001 Nissan Maxima SE 20th Anniversary 5-speed. Depreciation makes them very attractive as a beater

SG81

iTrader: (1)

babyblue, the G35c is hot, but like derrick said winters will be a challange.
good luck w/ the decision.

Scrib

The G coupe drives fine in the winter. So don't let that deter you. Winter tires make it drive just fine.

And regarding the residual. The coupe is said to have the best 3 and 5 year residuals on the market... What I found was...

Base MSRP (Est.): $35,000
2-year retained value: 68 percent
5-year retained value: 50 percent

zamo

I saw the base MSRP just above $33k. Unless it deffers by state.

hemants

You cannot compare projected retained value to residual. The only residual that matters is what the leasing company puts into their calculation. The higher the better, especially if you don't plan to buy it at the end.

Likewise, insurance company compensation for a write off is only a loose indication of value.

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

I'll never buy a new car again unless I'm rich. Not worth it. The wife is due for a new car next year and we'll be looking to buy low mileage 2004's. She likes the FX35, so instead of buying new, we'll get a one year old with 10k miles or so or a low mileage 2003 (under 20k).... and save thousands of dollars. Still under warranty, just like new... but with more money in my pocket

zamo

We all learn the lesson AFTER we bought our cars new right? hehe

That is my idea too. What about a 3 year old M3 with 30k miles

GreenMonster

yes we did... My CLS 6spd is my first new car. My last car was a 94 Tbird that I bought w/ 14K miles on it in 1995. Oh, and they discontinued the tbird too (in 97)

I really think that letting someone else take the depreication hit is a good idea. It worked out ok with the tbird, but I figured it was about time I bought a new car... go figure... they end up discontinuing the CL too.

GreenMonster

When I researched the CLS (Aug. of 2002) edmunds said it had a retained value of 52% after 5 years

Sometimes I just can't win...

3.2cl-s

You're telling me, my lease is up in 4 months and my residual value is $15,300 and right now i wouldn't even be able to get that much for it.....I would love to have a G35 coupe but i want my payments to go down to around $350 and thats not enough for the "G".