They don't believe we gain 25~hp from headers..
05-11-2003, 08:45 PM
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They don't believe we gain 25~hp from headers..
Neither do they believe I ran 14.4 at 99 mph with just headers....
http://www.is300.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13344300
Bunch of idiots.
http://www.is300.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13344300
Bunch of idiots.
05-11-2003, 08:59 PM
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more like 30hp.
i don't even waste gas on is300's.
i don't even waste gas on is300's.
05-11-2003, 09:10 PM
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Changing your story for the audience again, Russ?
And I guess these threads never happened:
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=39304
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=98553
Sorry, I'll take the word of both EricL and Nashua_Night_Hawk over anybody currently in this thread.
And I guess these threads never happened:
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=39304
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=98553
Sorry, I'll take the word of both EricL and Nashua_Night_Hawk over anybody currently in this thread.
05-11-2003, 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by DtEW
Changing your story for the audience again, Russ?
And I guess these threads never happened:
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=39304
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=98553
Sorry, I'll take the word of both EricL and Nashua_Night_Hawk over anybody currently in this thread.
Changing your story for the audience again, Russ?
And I guess these threads never happened:
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=39304
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=98553
Sorry, I'll take the word of both EricL and Nashua_Night_Hawk over anybody currently in this thread.
And 20hp doesn't gain 6-7mph and .5-.7 in the 1/4. As you can see others agree its more than 25hp.
Remember Nashua Dyno of OBX?
05-11-2003, 09:36 PM
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The reason people are saying 32 whp max gain is because thats the max gain at a certain RPM going from stock headers to comptech or one of the copies. Look at the graph that Silverbullet just posted, at ~6600rpms the stock dyno puts out ~180whp, while the stock header puts out ~225whp. (I'm just eyeballing it based off the graph, so give or take a few hp here or there, but thats still well over the 32whp that Comptech says is their max gain).
The gains in the upper end of the rpm range are where the headers really shine. Your max hp on the comptech headers versus max hp on the stock headers is going to be around 25whp.
EricL's comment in the other thread is just that your max gains when you're making the most horsepower are really only 25whp (@ 6500 rpms), and Comptech is misleading saying that your max gain is 32whp (since the max gain of 32whp at 6600rpms).
I guess it just depends on how you want to look at it ... But the overall average gains for headers is only ~8.7hp if you go by Comptech's graph. The average gain for headers from 5800-6800 rpms is 22.8whp.
The thing you can't deny whether you like or hate the CL/TL is that we gain a pretty good amount of horsepower in the upper range of rpms for a simple upgrade like headers ... This isn't some kindof mechanical upgrade like forced induction is, its really just more efficient pipes. And at $350-400 for the OBX or Stone Headers its a fairly cheap upgrade too.
Since this arguement all started from IS300's, I will say that IS300's can be SUPER fast when adding a properly tuned turbo onto the engine. Much faster then whats currently readily available for our CL/TLs.. Simply put their aftermarket support is a lot better.
The gains in the upper end of the rpm range are where the headers really shine. Your max hp on the comptech headers versus max hp on the stock headers is going to be around 25whp.
EricL's comment in the other thread is just that your max gains when you're making the most horsepower are really only 25whp (@ 6500 rpms), and Comptech is misleading saying that your max gain is 32whp (since the max gain of 32whp at 6600rpms).
I guess it just depends on how you want to look at it ... But the overall average gains for headers is only ~8.7hp if you go by Comptech's graph. The average gain for headers from 5800-6800 rpms is 22.8whp.
The thing you can't deny whether you like or hate the CL/TL is that we gain a pretty good amount of horsepower in the upper range of rpms for a simple upgrade like headers ... This isn't some kindof mechanical upgrade like forced induction is, its really just more efficient pipes. And at $350-400 for the OBX or Stone Headers its a fairly cheap upgrade too.
Since this arguement all started from IS300's, I will say that IS300's can be SUPER fast when adding a properly tuned turbo onto the engine. Much faster then whats currently readily available for our CL/TLs.. Simply put their aftermarket support is a lot better.
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05-11-2003, 10:10 PM
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O MY GOD! this is the funniest sh*t in the world..............my friend has a is300 and his screen name is Hackt97, he wanted me to check something on his account on the board so i went ahead and made this post without him knowing, i was just BS'ing, though when i do race him, i beat him but not blow him away.......just making him sound like a jackass.............i cant believe i started this war.
05-11-2003, 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by 3.2cl-s
O MY GOD! this is the funniest sh*t in the world..............my friend has a is300 and his screen name is Hackt97, he wanted me to check something on his account on the board so i went ahead and made this post without him knowing, i was just BS'ing, though when i do race him, i beat him but not blow him away.......just making him sound like a jackass.............i cant believe i started this war.
O MY GOD! this is the funniest sh*t in the world..............my friend has a is300 and his screen name is Hackt97, he wanted me to check something on his account on the board so i went ahead and made this post without him knowing, i was just BS'ing, though when i do race him, i beat him but not blow him away.......just making him sound like a jackass.............i cant believe i started this war.
05-11-2003, 11:08 PM
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who cares what they believe. 
They drive corolla's with clear tail lights, rims, and a slight hp increase. Oh yeah, a tacky ass interior too.
I raced one ONCE. Some dude in a yellow one who got SMOKED. After that, its not worth wasting my time and gas on.
They drive corolla's with clear tail lights, rims, and a slight hp increase. Oh yeah, a tacky ass interior too.
I raced one ONCE. Some dude in a yellow one who got SMOKED. After that, its not worth wasting my time and gas on.
05-11-2003, 11:11 PM
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3.2 cls well use to have an s till it got took buy some hooker, and little ingnite, with his none NAW as he would say using ass, suk it!
3.2 cls well use to have an s till it got took buy some hooker, and little ingnite, with his none NAW as he would say using ass, suk it!
try Hooked On Phonics..............i heard it really works
05-11-2003, 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by HACKT97
3.2 cls well use to have an s till it got took buy some hooker, and little ingnite, with his none NAW as he would say using ass, suk it!
3.2 cls well use to have an s till it got took buy some hooker, and little ingnite, with his none NAW as he would say using ass, suk it!
hey, aren't you the guy that got WAXED by the cl-s?
what mods do you have or need to at least stay in his rear view mirror?
05-11-2003, 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by HACKT97
ingnite your sig says cls but its funny you cant even afford a nice nissan? what the deal?
ingnite your sig says cls but its funny you cant even afford a nice nissan? what the deal?
05-11-2003, 11:27 PM
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HACKT97..........6 posts..................Ignite.........4 posts.............both from Orlando....hmmmmm.....OK kids turn off pops computer and get some sleep............its a school night
05-11-2003, 11:30 PM
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jts stop cryin, your almost funny with the pops computer. Yea we are from Orlando, aswell as other peps on the site. If you would in breed like your mom did, mabye there would be more of you from DAYTON
05-11-2003, 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by HACKT97
jts stop cryin, your almost funny with the pops computer. Yea we are from Orlando, aswell as other peps on the site. If you would in breed like your mom did, mabye there would be more of you from DAYTON
jts stop cryin, your almost funny with the pops computer. Yea we are from Orlando, aswell as other peps on the site. If you would in breed like your mom did, mabye there would be more of you from DAYTON
do us all a favor and leave this site............instead, use your time more wisely like studying up for that GED you have always wanted, im sure the test is hard for you but like they say, the tenth times the charm
..............and while i think about which of the millions of mamma jokes to drop on your eunic ass, i offer you one last token of advice.........................get some sleep, that jizz-mopping job at the adult bookstore you have cums(no pun intended) awfully early in the morning 
mama joke #135798...............lets get off moms...........i just climbed down off yours :P
05-11-2003, 11:53 PM
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05-11-2003, 11:55 PM
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ha ha ha you are so funny JTS. Just to let you know BITCH that I grad back in 98 so no need to get the GED. Like I said you are almost funny, so why dont you get off your pops computer cause im sure you are using all his pre paid minutes up on the home phone. And he dont want to send your mom out hooken again to earn some cash.
05-12-2003, 12:03 AM
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well HACKT97...............i would like to continue chatting......................but your damn moms calling again, and wouldnt you know it, i used all the flour the last time.......................so off i go to the store...........................................he Y HACK, did you know it takes the entire 5lb bag just to find it 
mama joke #189236.....................what does HACKs mama and a doorknob have in common............................................ ..........................everybody gets a turn
mama joke #189236.....................what does HACKs mama and a doorknob have in common............................................ ..........................everybody gets a turn
