Scooter

most of the time, i just see the wattage and description "interior bulbs"...and going through the manual, i couldn't find a list...perhaps towards the back in the "Do-it-yourself" section??

i vaguely remember someone having some breakdown of them but can't seem to get an accurate search...a list such as...

Door bulbs: M4 or something
Visor bulbs: M??
Dome light:...etc etc.

just wanna make sure i get the right bulbs for the right fixtures when i do my interior upgrading soon.

SilverKnight

Chod's FAQ.

BTW, here is a quick run down.

Doors, Trunk, License plate and Map: M4
Reverse: M2
Signal: M13
Dome: M16 but will not fit properly.
Vanity Mirror: Unknown.
and of course the infamous M6 for the road lamps.

AztecRol

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Here is a chart I found. Check it out, its a big help!!! I have been doing a ton of research on PIAA lights and I will give you what I have. Here is the link first:

http://www.sylvania.com/bin/carApp/c...el=CL&x=28&y=8

Anything that has the 168 wedge bulb, I will be using PIAA # 19172 Xtreme White bulbs. These will match the HID's best. This will cover the license plate, front side marker, map light, and trunk light. The glove box and door lights seem to be 158's. I am not sure if the 168 bulb will fit or not. As soon as I find out, I will let you know. The driving lights get PIAA # 19224. Reverse lights get the PIAA # 19225. The dome light gets the PIAA # 19223, but I don't know about the fit yet. I don't know about the vanity mirror lights, but as soon as I know I will post. I have posted these question's a bunch of times and no one had any answers. So I hope all the research I did helps!!! I will find out the other bulbs ASAP. I will be placing my PIAA order soon, so I will find out quickly!!!!

AztecRol

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Did this help?????

SilverKnight

Whatever fits the license plate, trunk and map lights should fit door lights since I put M4s in all of them without a problem.

AztecRol

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Well I wanted to update you all. I just put the PIAA 19225's in for the reverse lights and the PIAA 19223 T-6 for the dome light. The PIAA is a little smaller than the stock dome light. I made it fit by pinching the brass holders together and it seems OK. The 19225's are AWESOME!!!! They are so much nicer and brighter than the stock bulbs!!!! The stock bulbs look like a yellow orange compared to the PIAA's!!! I also put the PIAA 19172's in for my map lights, door lights, trunk light, and license plate light. They have a little blue tint to them, and since I have the Agean Blue Pearl, they look SWEEEEET!!!!!! Well worth the $10 a pair for the lights!!!! SilverKnight, THANKS, the 168 wedge bulbs fit with no problems into the doors. They look like the same bulb as the map/trunk/license plate light, so I am not sure why the Sylvania web site lists them as 158's??? Maybe its the wattage. I will post pics if anybody wants them, let me know!!!

Edub-TL

Rol,

You're sayin the 19225 will fit in the reverse socket?? The size for the reverse are the W2 bulb which the 19224 is.. and the 19225 is the 7440 type bulbs.. aren't they different sizes where they plug in???

19224

19225

also, where did ya order them for only $10/pair??

AztecRol

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The 19225's are the PERFECT replacement for the reverse lights. I have been doing a TON of research to make sure all the bulbs I ordered fit!!! The 19224's are going in my "driving lamps". They are a lot smaller than the 19225's. I'll show you next time we hook up. The 19224's will be here next week, they were on back order. I am hooking up with bobowah on Sat. Let me know if you are free. We can have a three way!!!! Bring the new wife, she can watch!!!

Scooter

yeah u're gonna need to post pics...b/c i was this close to doing a Polarg overhaul and since i already have the 19224's, might as well see what the 19225's, 19223's, etc etc look like...im particularly interested in seeing what the reverse lamps look like...any chance u can pop one stock bulb back in and do one shot of both to kinda get the jist of the color/brightness???

i was talking to adam yesterday, and he brought up an interesting idea...get red tinted interior lights, kinda like the Audi's dash...it would certainly carry on my color theme anyone know if red lights exist??? im sure they do.

actually, kinda funny...based on the exterior color of our cars, u could use a color theme with interior lights...for San Marino Red, use red lights, for Aegean Blue/Eternal Blue, use the Polargs/PIAA's, for Taffeta White and Satin Silver Metallic, use superwhite bulbs, for Naples Gold and Noble Green, u should prob keep the stocks, and for Nighthawk Black...check this out, black-lights!! how cool would that b?? if only PIAA/Polarg made little black lights

Paul

hehe, thats a great idea, I have a black CL and I would do that. Does anyone make black lights that small??? hehe

AztecRol

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Yeah I can put a stock bulb back in, no problem!! It only took like 2 minutes a side to actually change the bulbs. The difference is HUGE!!!! The stock reverse light looks like its yellow, almost orange, in color!!! I will try and take pics tomorrow night. I will post them as soon as I take them.

goowakjai

as for the piaa 19224 for the road lamps, will these burn the bulb housing? how's the piaa 19169 for the road lamps?

AztecRol

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I think that as long as you handle the bulb with a cloth or gloves, making sure you dont touch the glass with your skin, you will be fine. All the people that I know that have the 224's, have NO problem with melting housings. They have had them for about a year. The 169's will fit, but they are only 5 watts, the 224's are 18 watts. BIG difference. You will not get enough light out of the 169's, or any PIAA 168 bulb, with only 5 watts. They are both Xtreme white bulbs and put out the same color light.

AztecRol

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Here are the pics of my reverse lights.

This one is with with both reverse lights having the PIAA's


This one is with the left side PIAA and the right side stock


HUGE difference!!!!! The stock one looks to be a pinkish yellow color. While the PIAA is pure white with a very light blue tint. Let me know what you all think.

AztecRol

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Here are the pics of the PIAA 19172's in my interior.

This one is of the dome light


This one is of the door light


This one is of the map lights


It is hard to tell with these pics. All I can say is that the difference is HUGE. I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!

AztecRol

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Doin the bump

Scooter

wow those reverse lights make a BIG difference...i was skeptical at first...thanks for posting 'em!!

AztecRol

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doin the bump

SiCk sTyLeS

soo.... i'm really confused, i haven't looked into lights that much, could u tell me the replacements you made, and names of the bulbs u used? They do look A LOT BETTER!!! Thanks inadvance...

Scooter

just check out the first few posts...u'll see the breakdown Aztec did of the PIAA's, while others have described the Polarg's...the pics look great, and i believe some of the interior bulbs people have used for their road lamps (19172's)!! hope this helps out some.

JZ

What is the best online place to order bulbs?

I simply refuse to pay 5$ a pair for shipping from ACP!!!

Honestly, the cost of shipping from that site has driven me away to find other suppliers.

Scooter

Aztec used www.optauto.com

i used www.autobulbdepot.com

i forgot about shipping costs...prob wasn't that bad...i think i paid like $16 a pair

AztecRol

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Doin the bump ^ for all the lighting questions that have been posted lately. I know the search function doesn't work, I thought this might help!!!!

IWuvMyCL-S

OK, I got a question.
On this thread, it says

Reverse: M2
Signal: M13

But on a similar thread, it said

Reverse: M13

Which is for Reverse, and which is for Front Signal?

kobe98

what's the small bulb in the front corner lens (not the 1157)?

CO-CL-S

Polarg M6 Road Lamps, PIAA 19224 Driving Lights
Polarg M4 Door Lamps, PIAA 19172 Door Lights
Polarg M4 Map Lights, PIAA 19172 Map Lights
Polarg M12 Turn,
Polarg M13 Reverse Lamps, PIAA 19225 Reverse Lights
Polarg M16 Dome Light, PIAA 19223 Dome Light

PIAA 19172 Trunk Light
PIAA 19172 Rear License Plate Light
PIAA 19615 High Beams

AztecRol

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BUMP

Scooter

talk about the graveyard thread come back to life...this is like the 2nd time it's come back from the dead...let it go!!! j/k

i can't wait to show u guys how cool the 19225's look in the back not even on, just sitting in the housing with the blue accents...the interior lighting picks are very interesting, especially at night...and Aztec's right, pictures just don't do it justice since most digicams can't really give u perspective for night shots, unless u have a REALLY good expensive cam...take our word for it...u need to do these mods!!! despite the fact that they're purely cosmetic, they make such a difference that u're actually happy that u did em

when bandwidth eventually returns, i'll flood the boards with pics that i took of before and after my PIAA's

Nitin

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The Polarg M-28 fits perfectly in the dome light. It's the exact same size as the original.

AztecRol

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^ BUMP ^ For the newbies!!!

AztecRol

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Scooter

the thread that will never die

AztecRol

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Why should it die???? It is such an informative post!!!!!
Maybe one for the archives?????

Ted

One thing I'd like to mention when dealing with bulbs. The reason why there's probably so much confusion with what bulbs fit in where, different models might use different bulbs.

It's probably best to first find out what industry standard bulb #'s fit what part of your car first (such as the Sylvania Guide ) and then do a research on what the specific company (such as polarg, piaa, sylvania, etc...) has the industry standard # converted to (in their own application).

For example:

If you are looking for a 168/194 bulb(168=single filament, 194= dual filament) and want to find out what bulbs polarg makes for that application:

M4 - Hyper White
M20 - Amber
M21 - Red
M80 - Blue

If you are looking for a 7440/7443 bulb (7440=single, 7443 = dual) and want to find out what bulbs polarg makes for that application:

M1 - Amber
M2 - Hyper White
M3 - Red (7443)
M13 - Hyper White (7443)
M15 - Blue
M23 - Red

etc...just remember you have to do a specific search for your particular model, since (for example) a 97 Acura CL might use the 168/194 bulbs for the license plates, side markers, parking, etc...whereas a 04 Acura CL might use 7440/7443 or something for the license plate, but use 168 for side, and use T-6 for the parking, etc... The 97 applications are correct, but the 04 (if you couldn't tell) is all made up...just to show the point that your car might not use the same bulbs as someone else on the forum.

Hope this helps clear out some of the confusion

Bartman

keep in mind that the guide might not be right.........

My '98 3.0 uses 7440's for the front signals......but that's not what the guide says. I'm glad I didn't ORDER bulbs based on the guide without checking first.

Ted

Yep, the best thing to do is to actually take a look at the bulb to determine what kind of bulb you need.

nate'sCLS

<b>the thread that will never die</b>

:flamer: DIE THREAD

AztecRol

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For the NOOOBS!!!!!

Scooter

STOP summoning the dead!!!!!!

AztecRol

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I would, but we get so many NEW members every month, and they all want different lights!!!

So I awaken the dead!!!!