^^^

 

I think part of the drive (aside from the effort he's put into this car) is that they never made a green CL 6 speed.

You could probably buy a 6 speed and paint it green, but that wouldn't be the same. Regardless of what you do, I wish you the best of luck. Everything you set out to do you seem to get done in good time, so I'm excited to see where this is going.

 

Huge project. Good Luck!

Keep us posted on progress.... with pics!

 

What is your budget for this project?

Motor build $2,500.
Boost $5,000
Swap $5,000+ (Just a ballpark figure. Rewiring the entire engine electronics and dash is not a small task.

So we're talking anywhere from $10-13,000+ just so you can have a CL-S 6-speed. You could literally buy one for that price and keep your CL-P. Or you could sell your CL-P and use that money ($8,000 or so) and have a bad ass CL-S 6-Speed.

 

and those prices arent even including the PARTS, which will be another 2000-3000 easlily. steve is right. price wise, you are logically better off just getting a 6 speed. strip your car back to stock, wont be that hard, you only have n/a mods. go to a dealership, trade it in, get a 6 speed, and you will have more money in the long run. do the math.

 

The motor build is a going to be a little bit more than 2500. I'm basically going off of fsttyms swap. I already have the parts list of what I need for the swap.

I see what you're saying Steve, but this car has kept me together through my divorce...(even though it wasn't extremely ugly) and I am not going to get rid of it. I love the color combo. I like the fact that it'll be the only DEP CL-S 6 speed. I have all the inpiration from CleanCl, typeR, fsttyms1, speedr73 and ThinJim. When I'm all done with this car, I want to show it off, and see what it's capable of.

 

Im with everyone else, buy a CL-S6. I bought mine for 12k private party. It's just a headache swapping everything and a total waste of time.

 

and then paint his car DEP and he will be the first CL-S6 with that color and a badass engine setup. What do ya say GM?

 

I take it no one saw the point of keeping my car except for a few.

 

All I have to say then is, I wish I had your kind of money to just make a decision like that not caring what's financially smarter. Like mrsteve said, good luck buddy.

 

damn 5 min rule...

it would be extremely annoying taking everything off and putting it on the CL-S6

Might as well just trade the entire thing in and start from scratch.

-minus the stereo.

 

I think doing that would be a very smart move. Plus, its fun starting over from scrath anyhow

 

Except when its time for the spring and header install.

 

header install is easy...my brother has done a few coilover installs and he said he'd help me with that.

I'd like to stick with the original plan but if anything changes, I'll let you guys know. I'm up for ideas.

 

i would understand having a swap done to a POS, powerless, 6th gen Accord but with a CL?

not to turn you down or anything, but i don't see the point of putting a CL-S swap on a CL-P body only because you want to be different colorwise, trade in your car w/ a 6speed (look for a good dealership, you're willing to go thousand of miles anyway?), put a fresh body paint on it with the color that you like, save the money for performance or other stuff. less headache too trust me on this one...

IMO the car isn't worth remembering specially coming off from a "not so bad divorce", it's time to move on... i really hope we can change your mind for a good cost

 

everybody....im new to this as i just got my cls but what the fuck is clp???? im curious lmme kno

 

The CL-p is the Non Type-S version of the CL. You should probably start by reading this thread for everything you'll need to know...

Now back to GM#2's thread.....

I realize this car helped you get through some tough times, but you should keep an open mind about getting a CLS6 and painting it DEP if you're that interested in being unique.

 

You can't be serious.

You are swapping a motor, transmission, dashboard gauges, ECU, and all wiring within the car and then some.

But swapping a few bolt-ons would be extremely annoying?

 

All this is much easier posted on a board than done....Im not doubting you, but Ill believe all this when I see it. If I had a dollar for all the guys on the second TL forums saying they are swapping in a 6speed....

 

That's what I said. Find CL-S6 with his interior color swap out the parts, boost it, paint the car DEP and it will still be cheaper then what he is going to do.

 

And actually have some resale value.

A one-off bastardized CL-P won't be worth the fuel you put it in.

 

Thank you for all of your responses. I'll keep you updated when it starts.

 

BTW Check your local laws. Some states have serious laws about moding your car that far. Your basically turning it into a different model car. You may have some problems getting it titled, registered & insured.

 

I've talked to a few local angencies and it wouldn't be a problem. They said I might run the risk of paying higher insurance...

 

Man, not many of you read very well some times.

He's keeping the car because of sentimental value. He doesn't care about dollar value. The car itself is what he wants.

 

Good point. At that point, it may almost be considered a kit car.

Good lookin' out, Fuzzy.

 

I read that... but I've always been one to just buy what you want... "Polishing a turd", "Putting perfume on a pig", call it what you want, but it's always easier (and cheaper) to buy what you want instead of trying to create it yourself. When people ask about making a CLP a CLS or an automatic into a 6spd, I'll always advise that they sell the car they have an buy the one they want.

I've had a couple of special cars in my life, but they were just cars. Nothing more, nothing less. Simple material possessions. Disposable commodities.

I'm with Mr. Steve on this one, but it's GreenMachine's car and money, so ultimately, whatever makes him happy is ok by me

 

I read it just fine and understand it as well. We're just trying to knock some sense into him and say that financially the cheaper route to go is x. But because he wants to keep his car for his reasons and do these things to it and doesnt care about how much it costs, then go on right ahead.

 

I mean honestly and realistically. You could buy a 6-speed CL-S with 70k miles for less than what the swap will cost. So keep the "sentimental" car and have a 6-speed CL-S to play with too.

I mean is anyone realistically going to keep their CL-P until the day they are old and gray? Thanks to the Accord coupe getting a decent bump in horsepower and the addition of the 6-speed manual the CL is pretty much the forgotten child of the Honda/Acura lineup and it's resale value reflects that stigma. It sucks because they are nice cars but Honda cannibalized the CL when the Accord Coupe was introduced in '04.

 

However, where does it stop? One of the things that drives me mad about people modding their cars is the money & time they drop into it and not get it out. IT IS A CAR! and not a valuable car at that. We aren't dealing with vintage muscle or Foreign Exotics here. I love my Cl-s, but ultimately it's just a glorified honda. One of the best Car & Driver TV shows I ever saw was a race off between sveral different tuners and what they created. After everything was done, they listed the winner, the mods and the price. Then one of the producers brought out his Stock Z06 (2003) and SPANKED the winner. It just doesn't make any sense to me to drop $40k into a $20k Civic SI when you could buy a friggin VETTE!!!!!!!

ARGH.

Done with rant.

Yes, I feel better.

 

Yes but modding a car isn't always about being the quickest through the turns or the fastest down the track. It's about making the car your own and making it perform at the peak of it's potential.

 

Throw a lsX in it.

 

Yes and I don't disagree with you, however if the money you spend on a higher performance car can get you a new canvas that will start you at the same point or better than where you are now or want to be - what is the justification??

 

^^^The justification is I can do whatever I want with my car and no one is going to tell me how I'm going to spend my money on my car.

Savvy?

 

No you wont. You will do what we tell you, when we tell you to do it.

 

 

Speaking of scalbert, where is that guy anyhow...?

 

i dunno man, it seems like if u wanted to get a really fast car why did u get the CLP or why not a V8 Muscle car or BMW or something. Thats a lot of money to put into a midsize sports coupe that wasn't designed to operate under the type of stress you would be putting on it. On the flip side, props for wanting to make YOUR car different.

 

He bought a BMW, he's floating on a BMW forum now.

Well, at least from what I can remember.

 

I thought it was an Audi S4?