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11-18-2003, 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
MattG: Does that STi run sub 10's in the 1/4? I'm definitely interested
MattG: Does that STi run sub 10's in the 1/4? I'm definitely interested
it's in the 9's from what I hear, and it's also just a base WRX
11-18-2003, 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by CLpower
it's in the 9's from what I hear, and it's also just a base WRX
it's in the 9's from what I hear, and it's also just a base WRX
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11-18-2003, 05:42 PM
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11-18-2003, 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by Maximized
John Ligenfelter.......
John Ligenfelter.......
I was just showing him that there are wrx's that will disqualify what he's saying. He asked for faster then 9.8, we gave it to him
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Originally posted by CLpower
what are you saying now cusdaddy?
what are you saying now cusdaddy?
Again, I was only talking about one I saw in person. Secondly, there are faster Z06's than a 9.6 second WRX.
The Z06 has a 5.7L engine. Add FI or NOS and you have lots of potential
11-18-2003, 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by CLpower
big deal, you are also comparing two different cars, of course in the long run the car w/ the v8 will go deeper into times. Take that WRX's horsepower and compare it to what the TT vettes run and you come to your conclusions. I'm never gonna take anything away from the vette, my next car is going to be a C5, my dad has a C5 already that is about to get the lingenfelter SC.
I was just showing him that there are wrx's that will disqualify what he's saying. He asked for faster then 9.8, we gave it to him
big deal, you are also comparing two different cars, of course in the long run the car w/ the v8 will go deeper into times. Take that WRX's horsepower and compare it to what the TT vettes run and you come to your conclusions. I'm never gonna take anything away from the vette, my next car is going to be a C5, my dad has a C5 already that is about to get the lingenfelter SC.
I was just showing him that there are wrx's that will disqualify what he's saying. He asked for faster then 9.8, we gave it to him
11-18-2003, 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by CLpower
big deal, you are also comparing two different cars, of course in the long run the car w/ the v8 will go deeper into times. Take that WRX's horsepower and compare it to what the TT vettes run and you come to your conclusions. I'm never gonna take anything away from the vette, my next car is going to be a C5, my dad has a C5 already that is about to get the lingenfelter SC.
I was just showing him that there are wrx's that will disqualify what he's saying. He asked for faster then 9.8, we gave it to him
big deal, you are also comparing two different cars, of course in the long run the car w/ the v8 will go deeper into times. Take that WRX's horsepower and compare it to what the TT vettes run and you come to your conclusions. I'm never gonna take anything away from the vette, my next car is going to be a C5, my dad has a C5 already that is about to get the lingenfelter SC.
I was just showing him that there are wrx's that will disqualify what he's saying. He asked for faster then 9.8, we gave it to him
11-18-2003, 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
First of all it wan't a STi (which I'm sure can be made faster but it's currently not running in the 9's like the Z06 I saw.
Again, I was only talking about one I saw in person. Secondly, there are faster Z06's than a 9.6 second WRX.
The Z06 has a 5.7L engine. Add FI or NOS and you have lots of potential
First of all it wan't a STi (which I'm sure can be made faster but it's currently not running in the 9's like the Z06 I saw.
Again, I was only talking about one I saw in person. Secondly, there are faster Z06's than a 9.6 second WRX.
The Z06 has a 5.7L engine. Add FI or NOS and you have lots of potential
and no one anywhere has said otherwise
btw, how do you know the car running 9's was a z06 and not just a plain vette? Are you sure it was an LS6 under the hood? Nearly everyone adds the side vent and front grill to their vettes.
11-18-2003, 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Maximized
I know that lingenfelter ran like 8.90@150+ . WRX's can be made real quick, but so can many cars if you put the money into them. Why is your dad going with a lingenfelter SC? My friend has an ATI procharger on his 01 running 7 lbs. From what I understand, this combo makes more power than the Lingenfelter kit.
I know that lingenfelter ran like 8.90@150+ . WRX's can be made real quick, but so can many cars if you put the money into them. Why is your dad going with a lingenfelter SC? My friend has an ATI procharger on his 01 running 7 lbs. From what I understand, this combo makes more power than the Lingenfelter kit.
he likes the warranty w/ the Lingenfelter and he's an old school guy and enjoys the roots blowers over the centrifigal. the official decision hasn't been made yet so the ATI is also an option. We are currently looking into tranny upgrades first as he went mental and got the A4
11-18-2003, 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by CLpower
and no one anywhere has said otherwise
btw, how do you know the car running 9's was a z06 and not just a plain vette? Are you sure it was an LS6 under the hood? Nearly everyone adds the side vent and front grill to their vettes.
and no one anywhere has said otherwise
btw, how do you know the car running 9's was a z06 and not just a plain vette? Are you sure it was an LS6 under the hood? Nearly everyone adds the side vent and front grill to their vettes.
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Originally posted by CLpower
he likes the warranty w/ the Lingenfelter and he's an old school guy and enjoys the roots blowers over the centrifigal. the official decision hasn't been made yet so the ATI is also an option. We are currently looking into tranny upgrades first as he went mental and got the A4
he likes the warranty w/ the Lingenfelter and he's an old school guy and enjoys the roots blowers over the centrifigal. the official decision hasn't been made yet so the ATI is also an option. We are currently looking into tranny upgrades first as he went mental and got the A4
11-18-2003, 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Maximized
STi stock runs 13.1-13.5 with a good driver from what I have seen. Stock Z06's have run low 12s @ roughly 113. No way a stock STi is going to touch that. Even the Ultimate Racing STi, which is currently the fastest STi in N/A, can't beat the best stock Z06 times.
STi stock runs 13.1-13.5 with a good driver from what I have seen. Stock Z06's have run low 12s @ roughly 113. No way a stock STi is going to touch that. Even the Ultimate Racing STi, which is currently the fastest STi in N/A, can't beat the best stock Z06 times.
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11-18-2003, 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
I went over the the guy's car after the run to check it out. He was running a 100 shot, exhaust, new intake and slicks. I know Vette's and it defitely was a Z06. You can also tell by the sound of the engine when he was running (higher pitched and more raspy) - After seeing like 50+ of them running, you can instantly tell a Z06
I went over the the guy's car after the run to check it out. He was running a 100 shot, exhaust, new intake and slicks. I know Vette's and it defitely was a Z06. You can also tell by the sound of the engine when he was running (higher pitched and more raspy) - After seeing like 50+ of them running, you can instantly tell a Z06
you are the only person I have ever met to say that there is a difference in sound between the two, esp. once you start serious modding because what makes the LS6 different (heads and cam) is changed. And how can you tell from looking at the engine?
curious to hear.
11-18-2003, 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by Maximized
Yea the ATI is sick. My friend put down 441 rwhp tuned. He also has a borla stinger exhaust, but stock headers and x-pipe. The car is lowered(free) and has mallet rims on wider michelin pilots. Once the car hits ~3,500 the car rips forward. I havent had a chance to drive it, since he is breaking in his clutch.
Yea the ATI is sick. My friend put down 441 rwhp tuned. He also has a borla stinger exhaust, but stock headers and x-pipe. The car is lowered(free) and has mallet rims on wider michelin pilots. Once the car hits ~3,500 the car rips forward. I havent had a chance to drive it, since he is breaking in his clutch.
He did have some DR's and stiffened suspension but man did we use to rape people for MAD $$. I'll never forget this nova that wanted to run us for 3G's. The guy thought it was just a head and cammed vet. After 1st gear it was just over 
11-18-2003, 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
MattG: Does that STi run sub 10's in the 1/4? I'm definitely interested
MattG: Does that STi run sub 10's in the 1/4? I'm definitely interested
couple other pics i took.
11-18-2003, 06:05 PM
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btw, i've never really looked into it but the LS6 and LS1 are the same exact blocks w/ just different cams right? Or are the heads different too? I'm still laughing that this kid just said there is a difference in sound.
and the only difference in looks are one has red covers and the other black, which are easily changed
and the only difference in looks are one has red covers and the other black, which are easily changed
11-18-2003, 06:06 PM
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well... duh.
He was thinking his car could outperform a C5. Which just isn't the case.
Just because you pass a enzo doesn't mean your car handles better than one.
well... duh.
He was thinking his car could outperform a C5. Which just isn't the case.
Just because you pass a enzo doesn't mean your car handles better than one.
11-18-2003, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by CLpower
you are the only person I have ever met to say that there is a difference in sound between the two, esp. once you start serious modding because what makes the LS6 different (heads and cam) is changed. And how can you tell from looking at the engine? curious to hear.
you are the only person I have ever met to say that there is a difference in sound between the two, esp. once you start serious modding because what makes the LS6 different (heads and cam) is changed. And how can you tell from looking at the engine?
curious to hear.
Yes, I hear a distinct sound difference between the LS1 and LS6. I'm sure a LS1 with heads and cam and other serious modding sound very similar.
Can I be 100% sure, no... But I'm almost sure it was a Z06
11-18-2003, 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by Zapata
i don't think anybody is making proclimations the the STi is faster than a z06 every single time. Not sure why yer making that assumption?
i don't think anybody is making proclimations the the STi is faster than a z06 every single time. Not sure why yer making that assumption?
I didn't
I was using another example of the same type of thinking...
My comments were in realtion to Fotis. I had not commented on the STI vs. z06 directly. Your misreading/assuming things....
My "well duh" was to "it's always a drivers race"... thats kinda an obvious thing...
11-18-2003, 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
The red engine cover. Z06 emblems, Brake ducts, z06 embroidery on the head rests... Yes, all of these can be replaced, but the guy had no reason to lie.
Yes, I hear a distinct sound difference between the LS1 and LS6. I'm sure a LS1 with heads and cam and other serious modding sound very similar.
Can I be 100% sure, no... But I'm almost sure it was a Z06
The red engine cover. Z06 emblems, Brake ducts, z06 embroidery on the head rests... Yes, all of these can be replaced, but the guy had no reason to lie.
Yes, I hear a distinct sound difference between the LS1 and LS6. I'm sure a LS1 with heads and cam and other serious modding sound very similar.
Can I be 100% sure, no... But I'm almost sure it was a Z06
when you are in the 9's or even 10's or 11's in any vette the heads and cams are swapped. That is the only difference between the two. So thus for your sound difference case just isn't valid
I believe it was a z06, just wanted to hear how you were sure.
11-18-2003, 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Guf0923
Most definitly calling
the main reason being that according to those videos the vette was about 10 car lengths back...thats ridiclious...
Most definitly calling
the main reason being that according to those videos the vette was about 10 car lengths back...thats ridiclious...
11-18-2003, 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by CLpower
when you are in the 9's or even 10's or 11's in any vette the heads and cams are swapped. That is the only difference between the two. So thus for your sound difference case just isn't valid
when you are in the 9's or even 10's or 11's in any vette the heads and cams are swapped. That is the only difference between the two. So thus for your sound difference case just isn't valid
10 spoke front wheels, brake ducts, red engine cover, z06 emblems, z06 embroidery, etc...
Stock for stock, the LS1 and LS6 have a different sound. If you add heads and cams to the LS1 it essentially becomes a LS6, so yes, they will sound similar.
11-18-2003, 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by cusdaddy
Dude.... Give me a break. Why would the guy lie? He said it was a Z06, it had every single item that a Z06 has:
10 spoke front wheels, brake ducts, red engine cover, z06 emblems, z06 embroidery, etc...
Stock for stock, the LS1 and LS6 have a different sound. If you add heads and cams to the LS1 it essentially becomes a LS6, so yes, they will sound similar.
Dude.... Give me a break. Why would the guy lie? He said it was a Z06, it had every single item that a Z06 has:
10 spoke front wheels, brake ducts, red engine cover, z06 emblems, z06 embroidery, etc...
Stock for stock, the LS1 and LS6 have a different sound. If you add heads and cams to the LS1 it essentially becomes a LS6, so yes, they will sound similar.
read what I changed, I believe it's a Z06. However, your sound difference thing just isn't valid. even an LS6 is changing heads to dip into those #'s. So by saying you knew it was a 9 second z06 by the sound is a rediculous comment. That is all i'm saying.
and adding heads and cams to an LS1 only makes it an LS6 if you add the LS6 heads and cams, which would be pretty pointless when there are much better alternatives for cheaper
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Originally posted by CLpower
when you are in the 9's or even 10's or 11's in any vette the heads and cams are swapped. That is the only difference between the two. So thus for your sound difference case just isn't valid
I believe it was a z06, just wanted to hear how you were sure.
when you are in the 9's or even 10's or 11's in any vette the heads and cams are swapped. That is the only difference between the two. So thus for your sound difference case just isn't valid
I believe it was a z06, just wanted to hear how you were sure.
11-18-2003, 06:17 PM
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i'm just trying to stir up your feathers, I don't mean any harm. I like to argue and the girlfriend is asleep
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Originally posted by CLpower
read what I changed, I believe it's a Z06. However, your sound difference thing just isn't valid. even an LS6 is changing heads to dip into those #'s. So by saying you knew it was a 9 second z06 by the sound is a rediculous comment. That is all i'm saying.
read what I changed, I believe it's a Z06. However, your sound difference thing just isn't valid. even an LS6 is changing heads to dip into those #'s. So by saying you knew it was a 9 second z06 by the sound is a rediculous comment. That is all i'm saying.
No worries about getting feathers ruffled. I love debating as much as anyone else
11-18-2003, 06:53 PM
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I didn't
I was using another example of the same type of thinking...
My comments were in realtion to Fotis. I had not commented on the STI vs. z06 directly. Your misreading/assuming things....
My "well duh" was to "it's always a drivers race"... thats kinda an obvious thing...
I didn't
I was using another example of the same type of thinking...
My comments were in realtion to Fotis. I had not commented on the STI vs. z06 directly. Your misreading/assuming things....
My "well duh" was to "it's always a drivers race"... thats kinda an obvious thing...
Lol no. OK?
So your statement about making generalizations fotis is making with the CLS and C5 doesn't apply to what this thread is about?
i don't think there is a disagreemnt?
11-18-2003, 07:20 PM
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Lol no. OK?
So your statement about making generalizations fotis is making with the CLS and C5 doesn't apply to what this thread is about?
i don't think there is a disagreemnt?
Lol no. OK?
So your statement about making generalizations fotis is making with the CLS and C5 doesn't apply to what this thread is about?
i don't think there is a disagreemnt?
And then someone posted "I see vipers and Z06's running 14's all the time..." do you read the threads?
Man, someone needs to beat you with the clue hammer...
Fotis was sure his car was better than the C5 around the track, why... because he was passing C5's when he raced them. Although he was leaning towards it being driver skill at the end of our conversation. It certainly started with him convinced he could beat a C5 hands down.
(lol, I already know your going to ignore this, andf circle around with more redundant things, repeating yourself once again, in a different way)
anyway..........
DID YOU NOTICE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T GET IT...
might want to focus on that for awhile...
mattg and soopa seemed to understand what I was saying... LOL, anyways....
11-18-2003, 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
because it's the same thing. The underdog with the better driver won. The Z06 is faster off the line too... Just the driver wasn't good at launching it, or maybe wasn't even trying...
And then someone posted "I see vipers and Z06's running 14's all the time..." do you read the threads?
Man, someone needs to beat you with the clue hammer...
Fotis was sure his car was better than the C5 around the track, why... because he was passing C5's when he raced them. Although he was leaning towards it being driver skill at the end of our conversation. It certainly started with him convinced he could beat a C5 hands down.
(lol, I already know your going to ignore this, andf circle around with more redundant things, repeating yourself once again, in a different way)
anyway..........
DID YOU NOTICE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T GET IT...
might want to focus on that for awhile...
mattg and soopa seemed to understand what I was saying... LOL, anyways....
because it's the same thing. The underdog with the better driver won. The Z06 is faster off the line too... Just the driver wasn't good at launching it, or maybe wasn't even trying...
And then someone posted "I see vipers and Z06's running 14's all the time..." do you read the threads?
Man, someone needs to beat you with the clue hammer...
Fotis was sure his car was better than the C5 around the track, why... because he was passing C5's when he raced them. Although he was leaning towards it being driver skill at the end of our conversation. It certainly started with him convinced he could beat a C5 hands down.
(lol, I already know your going to ignore this, andf circle around with more redundant things, repeating yourself once again, in a different way)
anyway..........
DID YOU NOTICE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T GET IT...
might want to focus on that for awhile...
mattg and soopa seemed to understand what I was saying... LOL, anyways....
they aren't the easiest car to get off the line quick.
11-18-2003, 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by CLpower
show me z06 60' times and STi 60' times that show the z06 is quicker off the line they aren't the easiest car to get off the line quick.
show me z06 60' times and STi 60' times that show the z06 is quicker off the line
they aren't the easiest car to get off the line quick.
I worded that wrong. I meant to say in the 1/4 mile...
I'm just frstrated with wasting my time replying to zapatatatatata
when I was just trying to poke fun at fotis originally, and the dudes who beat a driver, then think their car can take whatever it is they beat anytime...
Sorry to ramble on and not say what I was thinking.
your right, most 4wd cars have one hell of a hole shot. even my buddys talon.
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That's my fellow member Scubasteve.. Yeah, his car is lightly modded, with MBC and Perrin Pulley.. The stock Sti is pushing 14.5 psi and for some reason he only set it at 15 psi.. Plus, they are 5800ft(Colorado) at sea level and we all know N/A cars really choked at high altitude.. I think he is running high 12's at 1/4 mile..
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I raced a C5 vette from I-290 from a roll 40-127mph and we are side by side at each other, but I got him by a half car length at 100+ mph.. He has some exhaust done to it because of unusual rumble.. Me, only remove resonator airbox.. He pointed at the car and gave it a thumbs up and I return the favor too... I was hitting the I/C sprayer like 4 times, whew!
I agree, the z06 are beast, but we can give them a lil run from the dig.. Stock vs stock..
I agree, the z06 are beast, but we can give them a lil run from the dig.. Stock vs stock..
