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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Standalone and Increasing Redline?

i searched and after looking through 200 or so threads, i began to lose my vision. i'm probably going to get yelled at for this post too, but bear with me, i haven't driven my CL in 2 months.

Redline for the typeS is... 7000 or 7200?

can this motor take 7500-7800 rpms? what about a motor w/ 11:1 compression?

shh... i'm a little crazy, but i'm making some guesswork for myself. btw, i'm already aware it won't come 'cheap' so please skip the financial advise.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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I have to look at mine to for redline.
But I feel with mods the car will do 8K+ RPM's fine. With light mods or FI the rpm's want to go past the limiter. You can feel it still wants to pull, then the fuel cutoff happens.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
i searched and after looking through 200 or so threads, i began to lose my vision. i'm probably going to get yelled at for this post too, but bear with me, i haven't driven my CL in 2 months.

Redline for the typeS is... 7000 or 7200?

can this motor take 7500-7800 rpms? what about a motor w/ 11:1 compression?

shh... i'm a little crazy, but i'm making some guesswork for myself. btw, i'm already aware it won't come 'cheap' so please skip the financial advise.
I think technically the redline is 6900, but our tachs show 7200. I noticed when i dyno'd and looking at other dyno's the red line seemed to reach 6900. If you defeat the rev limiter, I'd think no more than 500-600 over red line. the valve springs won't do much more that that.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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I don't know. On a 6 speed people have over rev'd past 8K(bad downshift) & no damage has occured.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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I'm actually working on raising my redline also and getting some headwork done currently with my motor at the shop. I'll fill in some information later.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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some reading says technical redline is 6900, but i'm pretty sure my tach goes red at 7200. i guess a 200-300 rpm difference in the gauge is negligible.

i wouldn't push to 8k. i think we can push a 7500. even with light mods the car wants to pull past normal redline.

i'm going to push the envelope of n/a. with the bigger stroke and higher compression i think pushing the redline out 500-600 rpms (7500) would yield worthwhile gains.

now i question can the motor take it.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
I'm actually working on raising my redline also and getting some headwork done currently with my motor at the shop. I'll fill in some information later.


good luck, i always wanted to see what the j32 can put down with a turbo + headwork. don't work the head TOO much, but if you can push the psi you will see some crazy flow.

while your in there, why not coat the intake/exhaust ports with high temp coating.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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I was just looking at the car yesterday, thinking about how it would feel to be able to rev to like 7.2k+ rpm. The tach actually goes red at exactly 6900.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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redline is 6900 fuel cut is 7100 RPM...hondata is working on the flashable '04 +TL and has raised there rev limit to 7500 which i think is ideal
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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maybe i'll wait for hondata to release their flash and see what kind of gains the TL sees from a 7500 redline.

i may go standalone. shooting for 300+whp n/a.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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maybe i'll wait for hondata to release their flash and see what kind of gains the TL sees from a 7500 redline.

i may go standalone. shooting for 300+whp n/a.
you know i would think the TL ECU would be easily made to work with our car...the few things i could think of that might need tweaking is the fact that they have pre cats and may therefore have extra 02 sensors and i wonder how to over come the fact that it would expect throttle by wire...
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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o2 sensors can easily be bypassed. as for the drive bywire... that sounds like a night mare.

i wish the greddy emanage unit could adjust rev limiter.

aem is extremely expensive, itd b e more cost effective to run a blower.

...still trying to tap all n/a power.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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wait a minute...
http://www.importevolution.com/produ...oducts_id=1397
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
says MT only...which is interesting since there is no 00-02 accord V6 manual or '01 -02 CL
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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This product does not exist. that web page was also last updated in oct. of 2004. I say again, that product does not exist.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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:throws idea of increased redline out the window:

...back to driving to another state to get a good unichip tune.
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
:throws idea of increased redline out the window:

...back to driving to another state to get a good unichip tune.
to be honest i think a resistor may be able to accomplish this...i personally think the revlimiter is tied to a speed sensor and not engine RPM...the reason i say this is when i was on a dyno my car was fuel cutting at like 6900 according to the dyno which gets it's info from an ignition coil. mean while i had 235/45 tires which are slightly shorter and the tach did read 7100
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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one of my dynos read 7.45 RPMs when i was on my 18s. i believe the tire size was 225/45.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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I thought that the emanage ultimate was capable of raising rev limit
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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it's only a piggyback. so it can only adjust the ECU readings. and i didn't see on greddy's site mention of redline change. i'll email them and ask.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 01:34 AM
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from greddy's supplied documentation i noted a few things regarding the emanage ultimate:
"change the automatic transmission shift schedule"

"Rev Limiter Cut Setting: This map can be used to change the factory rev limiter."

can anyone say 300+ whp n/a CL?

unless someone else (johntypes) takes the plunge at this, i won't be doing this for a little while. although i think 300whp isnt capable without the stroker, but i'd love for someone to prove me wrong.
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