I notice we have a few BMW and Lexus people that spend a lot of time on this forum. Is it that they like what we talk about or are they just really bored?

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Mustang Killa

 

Probably a mix of both but I don't visit their sites because honestly, I don't care about any other car. Occasionally I will go to is300.net but that's about it.

How is your muffler?

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01' Acura CL Type-S
Piaa 19169 Bulbs
Valentine1 Pig Detector
CompTech Exhaust
Xephyr Cold Air Intake
Founding Member of the NO SCRATCHED RIMS CLUB

01'Acura Integra GSR

 

Don't forget 1 SAAB owner. I come here for a few reasons:

1-Yes, I am bored.

2-Pretty good topics, interesting people. (I could do without the bickering, but what's life without a good argument, right?)

3-Eclipse23 asked me to.

I also post on SAABNET.com for the obvious reasons.

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2001 SAAB 9-3SE HOT

I couln't think of anything clever to say.

 

Interesting topics here...too bad the moderators are jack-asses (you know who you are, one in particular)

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'98 Dakar Yellow ///M3
www.BMWExperience.com
Forums are now open at www.BMWExperience.com
0-60 5.53 sec G-Tech

 

So let's beat up on Saab's for awhile. What's with the ignition key anyway???

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01 CL-S NightHawk Black/Ebony Bowling Ball Interior

 

Do you even know me?

BTW, give the Mods some slack....it's tough sometimes.



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Ken
'01 Satin Silver CL-P
Performance: Headers, K&N Drop-In, Comptech Springs/Sways, 17" Borbet T's & Eagle RS-A's.
Other: Flaps, X-Pel Clear Bra, Cannon Mats, & Burlwood Shift Knob.

Worst Stock GTech: 7.15
Current G-Tech (2/11): 6.33

 

Sorry, should have said, 'SOME' mods are jack-asses. Your a cool one


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'98 Dakar Yellow ///M3
www.BMWExperience.com
Forums are now open at www.BMWExperience.com
0-60 5.53 sec G-Tech

 

You guys really have to check out Stangnet's Watering Hole! www.stangnet.com
Their watering hold (ha!) is their remblings. But don't post! They outnumber us 10:1! If they deceided to bash on here the mods couldn't keep up.

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Red 3.2 CL-S.
"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
"Too many news programs have become public relations friendly" -Bill Oreilly
"People spend too much time finding other people to blame, too much energy finding excuses for not being what they are capable of being, and not enough energy putting themselves on the line, growing out of the past, and getting on with their lives." - J. Michael Straczynski
Proud member of "I didn't hit the curb like a dope and scratch my rims" club.

 

HEE HEE. That has got to be one of the coolest innovations (IMO) in an automobile. Here's why:

1-Safety: with the ignition mounted on the floor, the instances of injuries caused by keys being jammed into one's knee during a head-on collision, are removed. (Actual insurance data shows this happening. SAAB's get better safety ratings because of this.)

2-Convenience: in one motion, I sit, strap myself in, and start the car!

3-Theft deterrant: #1, it confuses would-be thieves. They can't hot wire the car if they can't find the ignition switches and #2, underneath the ignition mounting is a solid steel plate. Almost impossible to remove. (A profressional, of course, can bypass anything.)

4-Everytime some one gets in my car for the first time they exclaim "Hey, that's cool! I've never seen that before."


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2001 SAAB 9-3SE HOT

I couldn't think of anything clever to say.

 

But it deters member of the female gender from invading your personal space.

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CL-S #22,299 Black/Parchment/Nav, spoiler, door & fender guards, wood trim, PIAA 9005, Polarg M6, V1 w/remote, trunk & winter mats, no headers, no sway bars, no springs, no CAI, no money! (but I got a nice new kitchen!)

 

The reason we have BMW/Lexus people here is because they cannot believe that Acura was able to come up with a car like the CLS for the price they did. Paying $10K to $20K more is not fun. Now, some of these guys may have gotten their cars before the CLS was availble and are interested in jumping into one but wonna see what owners have to say.

I love companies like Acura. VALUE is what matters most in any purschas these days and Acura's #1 objective was to bring VALUE to luxury car owners. No more "I got to pay at least $40K to get into a luxury sedan/coupe". Companies like Acura benfit the consumer in the long run more than we realize. Great job guys.

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Gabriel
CL Type S

[This message has been edited by gavriil (edited 04-30-2001).]

 

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Ken
'01 Satin Silver CL-P
Performance: Headers, K&N Drop-In, Comptech Springs/Sways, 17" Borbet T's & Eagle RS-A's.
Other: Flaps, X-Pel Clear Bra, Cannon Mats, & Burlwood Shift Knob.

Worst Stock GTech: 7.15
Current G-Tech (2/11): 6.33


[This message has been edited by Satin01CL (edited 04-30-2001).]

 

I also think that a lot of the BMW, Lexus, etc. people are true car enthusiasts that enjoy talking about cars in general. Of course there are the few asses who just like to start stuff, but most of the guys here are just car guys. I also think we have a really good group of people, so it makes others want to come here and hang.....



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1998 Iced Blue CL 3.0 ** Some mods, but who cares, I want a Type-S!!

Moderator - 1st Gen Forum

Email: juniorbean@acura-cl.com

 

That's it, I'm having mine moved today. Center console for me....mebbe right where it says "Not an ashtray"!

At least you're not driving a Volvo. I can't see how anyone can drive anything that sounds like part of the female reproductive system

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01 CL-S NightHawk Black/Ebony Bowling Ball Interior

 

I think we do. We got a lot love on this board and it's very informative.

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2001 CL-S Satin Silver/Ebnoy

• Spoiler/moonroof visor/20% Tint
• PIAA 19173/19170
• Mobil 1 Oil/Oil Filter
• X-Pel/Upgrade Cup Holder
• Clifford G4 Solaris Remote Start Car Alarm
• AEM CAI/Denso Iridium Spark

On its way: Comptech Sway Bar/Brake Line/WS Apexi Coilover/AEM Pulley

 

what part are you talking about? I wouldnt mind driving certain parts of the female reproductive system!

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2001 CL-P - Nighthawk Black/Ebony/Burlwood trim, Wheel Locks, Spoiler, Trunk Net, Polarg M6 Road Lamps, Polarg M4 Door Lamps, Polarg M4 Map Lights, Polarg M12 Turn, Polarg M13 Reverse Lamps, Polarg M16 Dome Light

Coming soon: '02 TL-S Burlwood Steering, Burlwood Vent Trims, Burlwood Shifter

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1626022

 

The ignition switch! It's on the center console in a Saab.

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01 CL-S NightHawk Black/Ebony Bowling Ball Interior

 

Hey, we strive for an educational forum here!

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01 CL-S NightHawk Black/Ebony Bowling Ball Interior

 

Good list... Good people... Good beer

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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Polarg M-6 lamps, K&N filter #33-2178,
Comptech Headers, Sways, mufflers
Planning: SSR 17X8 Competition Wheels, Brembo Brakes.

 

Where's the beer? Damn, did I miss something?

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01 CL-S NightHawk Black/Ebony Bowling Ball Interior

 

my signature got fucked up on that last post, so I'm gonna try again LOL

"nabster said: lol ok I get it! Well I think I can picture it!"

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2001 CL-P - Nighthawk Black/Ebony/Burlwood trim, Wheel Locks, Spoiler, Trunk Net, Polarg M6 Road Lamps, Polarg M4 Door Lamps, Polarg M4 Map Lights, Polarg M12 Turn, Polarg M13 Reverse Lamps, Polarg M16 Dome Light. Burlwood '02 TL-S Steering, Burlwood Vent Trims, Burlwood Shifter, 35% all around Madico Tint

My Albums

 

Wow, if you've ever talked out of your a$$, this is it. I can't believe I'm beginning to agree with Tom2 (an ex-troll!), but you've got some real issues.

BTW, typing out every automotive article one comes across does not make one intelligent or even knowledgeable. It just tells people that one has a lot of time to spend cribbing the thoughts of others.

(No offense to any other CL'ers. Most of you should know I don't start sh!t. At this point I'm here and in a few other car forums for that rarity-of-rarities: the interesting general automotive discussion between informed and/or semi-informed enthusiasts.)

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051/LP/SR/LD/HH

 

DtEW, you took the words right out of my mouth! It seems like gavrill always has something to say that will start another flame war. Why is that? What is the agenda? I don't get it.
Gavrill, as for the mag. articles you keep copying and pasting, I don't have a problem with that, just list the source. Otherwise it's just flagrant plagiarism.

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2001 SAAB 9-3SE HOT

I couldn't think of anything clever to say.

[This message has been edited by saabman4ever (edited 04-30-2001).]

 

For Christ's sake fellas....y'all got it in for Gavriil. Please don't turn this one into trash.

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Ken
'01 Satin Silver CL-P
Performance: Headers, K&N Drop-In, Comptech Springs/Sways, 17" Borbet T's & Eagle RS-A's.
Other: Flaps, X-Pel Clear Bra, Cannon Mats, & Burlwood Shift Knob.

Worst Stock GTech: 7.15
Current G-Tech (2/11): 6.33

 

Hey DTW what car/s do you drive?

Saabmanforever oviously you can tell from his screename that he is already biased. Saab for ever. You should be offended more than anyone else because you know that Saab cannot make a car with the credentials of a CLS for the price of a CLS. No auto company can as of right now and that was my point.

As for the articles. I never said I write that stuff. I am posting them here because they might be interesting to some people because I belileve that learning about the industry will help you understand your car better. Like seeing Nissan putting that new engine in the I35 makes me think if I have brains and come up with some scenarios with where Acura might be going with the CLS and TLS in the near future. That is just a simple example.

Plagurism someone said. You make me laugh. What is this, a college test? I am presenting my thesis to the board members to be graded or something. I make it easier for everyone and instead of posting a URL link, I paste the photos and text. I thought I was doing people a favor. It is easier for me to post just a URL link.

If you were smart enought though you would have seen that I am not trying to hide the content at all. There is a very easy way to figure out where my post comes from by finding out the source of the picture. So dont tell me I am trying to hide it.

And what if I dont put the source there? What would the value to you be? The value as it is, if any, is for a member to read the subject and if interest click and read the article. If you dont like it, dont read it. If I am instructed by moderators here to stop that, I dont see another reason why I should stop. From some of the replies though from members I see that there is sufficient interest for posts like the ones I post.

By the way, what does all that have to do with my initial point which obviously you did not like cos you know that CLS owners have done the right thing and simply you sont feel right for paying more for not really more car? It hurts a little does it not? I wonder who is with the issues.

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Gabriel
CL Type S

[This message has been edited by gavriil (edited 04-30-2001).]

[This message has been edited by gavriil (edited 04-30-2001).]

 

Oh sage-of-all-things-automotive, it's always listed in my signature on every post. Could it possibly be that you're unfamilar with anything save consumer-side?

Oh, you now seem to know that I don't drive a CL. Why did you ask me just then? Was it salient to any argument? Or were you trying to bait me into mentioning the unmentionable so that the peanut gallery would rally to your side?

Well, I don't bother speculating on why you're under the delusion that everybody who doesn't have a CL must want one bad.

I don't bother speculating on why you seem to be obsessed with cribbing from people obviously more intelligent than you w/o ever making any attempt at dispelling the erroneous general impression that you actually know something w/o your magazines and websites.

I also don't bother speculating on why you stoop as low as to resort to pseudo-technical/us-vs-them arguments in your attempts to discredit other car-savvy contributors that might reveal how little you actually know about anything.

And I haven't been pretending to read your mind and tell others why you do the things you do.

I don't think I'm the one with the issues.

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051/LP/SR/LD/HH

[This message has been edited by DtEW (edited 04-30-2001).]

 

DT seriously, what do you drive? I cannot tell from your acronyms at the bottom.

As for the rest you wrote and the style of your writing, I smiled and let it go. Wont bother with that.



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Gabriel
CL Type S

 

Thats RIGHT foo!


What did I just get myself into?

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- Kvit -
2001 CL-P Monterey Blue, Parchment interior
Polarg BlHybrid M-6 Road lamps
Polarg/PIAA super white interior lights *bling bling*
HP Quantum 28 -- 31% metallic tint all around
Blue Dragon Lady

Ferrari F355 Challenge Lap Times (Dreamcast):
-Motegi: 0'37"822 , sprint total 2'42"892
-Suzuka (short): 0'57"873
-Atlanta: 0'31"659

[This message has been edited by KavexTrax (edited 04-30-2001).]

 

It's good that you're finally taking the high road. Had you just done that in your first post in this thread, none of this unpleasantness would have been called for. The lesson is that anybody can play at the attack-by-implication, dirty argumentation game.

Isn't the "the unmentionable" a big enough clue?

Well, here's another one that doesn't require admittedly arcane knowledge of dealer codes. Initially, I came to this forum to "investigate" the cause of the old flame wars.

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051/LP/SR/LD/HH

 

Note: I have not retracted anything...just FYI. As for you, can you stay "in subject"?

Simple Q: What car do you drive? How hard is that to answer?


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Gabriel
CL Type S

 

LOL, what does it matter to you? Most of the mods know, and so do many forum members. I see no reason to answer that question knowing the response that it got last time. Can you provide a somewhat more sophisticated bait?

And gavriil, I don't particularly care about staying on subject with you. You started this off with an attack-by-generalization. Nobody needs to play by your rules if you show no regard for the rules of ethical argumentation.

Let's give one more try at keeping this discussion alive. I'm more interested in taking the high road, but I'm getting bored with your yet-to-be-justified demands.

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051/LP/SR/LD/HH

 

he drives an IS300....

this thread is done too...

move on boys



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Astroboy out...

2001 Acura CL Type S: Comptech: Headers, filter, sways, springs, koni shocks, Volk Racing SE37's in 18", goodridge braided brake lines, AEM CAI (blue), APEXi V-AFC, full kicker system, 13" Brembo's on the way with slotted discs for the rear
1996 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo: H&R Springs and sways, Bilstein shocks, ported and polished, crillo rods, new valvetrain
1995 VW Golf: 1999 VR6 Swap, H&R Coil Overs, neuspeed strut bars, neuspeed sway bars, 2.5" Stainless TT exhaust w/ Borla, 13" AP Racing big brakes