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Old 03-13-2009, 10:16 AM
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^ Look in the BM, there's a HELMS service manual for the 01-03 CL up for sale
Old 03-13-2009, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
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Where in NC are you located btw?
im in north raleigh. Also what are the torque specs for the bolts?
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Originally Posted by AnthraciteBeast
^ Look in the BM, there's a HELMS service manual for the 01-03 CL up for sale
i coulnt find the listing could you get me a link I dont want to make a wtb thread when theres already one out there
Old 03-13-2009, 06:08 PM
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I'm trying to get the front sway bar off so I can get off the rear heat shield but I took off the two bolts and seemed like it was riveted to the body with 2 plastic fasteners? does anyone know how to deal with this?
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You dont need to get the front sway bar off. Go from up top to take the heat shields out.
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alright got the heat shields off and now im soaking them in pb blaster overnight. I just got my magnaflows installed today and getting headers installed tomorrow then putting in my woofers. Also washed and waxed today. It does feel good to do stuff to your car yourself.
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now all I need to know is the torque specs and the jack points for jack stands
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the jack point is just behind the front wheels on the rockers. look in your manual.

the header nuts are at 23 lbft.
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Originally Posted by distortedolskool
the jack point is just behind the front wheels on the rockers. look in your manual.

the header nuts are at 23 lbft.
what about the down pipe?
Old 03-13-2009, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Fast4you
what about the down pipe?
i didn't even tq mine to specs, just tightened them.
down pipe-headers 40lbft
downpipe-cat 25lbft
i mean the heater shields have torque specs for fuck sake.
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Originally Posted by distortedolskool
i didn't even tq mine to specs, just tightened them.
down pipe-headers 40lbft
downpipe-cat 25lbft
i mean the heater shields have torque specs for fuck sake.
thanks man just I will probably just tighten it till it feels snug just wanted official numbers
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Post back when your all done with the DIY project.. i agree that working on such a nice car you might as well have some experience.. especially when your putting it on jack stands and going underneath. You will defiantly feel good when its all done. I hate washing my car, because i notice all the little chips and defects.. but id rather wash it myself then at a automatic carwash.
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alright instead of installing headers this weekend I put in subs and magnaflows. When I went to the exhuast shop and asked him how much louder the headers would make the exhuast sound he said 30% I kinda doubt this but what do you guys think is their really a 30% increase in sound?
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There's a bit more tone for me. It sounds similar to a G35 between 2-3k rpms, which I hate.

I don't know about 30% louder though.
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I got magnaflows on now and dont want it too loud how much louder will headers make the magnaflows sound?
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Probably not much, if anything slightly more growl on WOT.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Probably not much, if anything slightly more growl on WOT.
nice that's what i wanted to hear I just didn't want my exhaust to be obnoxiously loud
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Good luck Alex. Have fun with those headers!

Wanna see some pics of my ex baby.
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the headers are where all of the power is gained from. personally you should of done headers first and then worked your way through the remaining exhaust system to change the tone.
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Originally Posted by alxmlr789
Good luck Alex. Have fun with those headers!

Wanna see some pics of my ex baby.
Ill get em as soon as it stops raining its been raining since Friday and I waxed and washed it Thursday
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does anyone know the average price for someone to install headers?
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i would do it for you if you were closer.. i wanna buy xs headers but they are out of stock.. They emailed me saying they are coming out with a newer version (dk what they changed) and should be out before summer.
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Originally Posted by 03CL-S6SMike
i would do it for you if you were closer.. i wanna buy xs headers but they are out of stock.. They emailed me saying they are coming out with a newer version (dk what they changed) and should be out before summer.
yeah i need someone on here that would make the trip to help me with it
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Hmmmm. Your about 2.5 hours from me.
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yeah i called a shop and he said he wanted 250 for the install and I really don't wanna pay 250 I would give ya 100 for coming down and helping me with the install
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Lets see if anyone else is closer. If not, I can do it.

What sort of tools do you have? One thing I don't want is to have the header to cat bolts strip on us and not come out. I'd feel like an asshole if we can't get it done.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Lets see if anyone else is closer. If not, I can do it.

What sort of tools do you have? One thing I don't want is to have the header to cat bolts strip on us and not come out. I'd feel like an asshole if we can't get it done.
pb blaster and 6 point socket, not a 12 point. if that doesn't work heat the nut up with a propane torch, then take a crack at it. worse case take the dremel to it.
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Originally Posted by distortedolskool
pb blaster and 6 point socket, not a 12 point. if that doesn't work heat the nut up with a propane torch, then take a crack at it. worse case take the dremel to it.
yeah man we got all that stuff except for the propane torch
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Lets see if anyone else is closer. If not, I can do it.

What sort of tools do you have? One thing I don't want is to have the header to cat bolts strip on us and not come out. I'd feel like an asshole if we can't get it done.
I got pretty much all the tools we need its just me having trouble getting the bolts off that connect the headers to the down pipe
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Have you tried PB Blaster and heat?
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If I knew you wanted them installed so bad, I could've done it before i left here

If you wanna fly me up and back again, I'll come do it Juuuust kidding, no more time left.
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Originally Posted by alxmlr789
If I knew you wanted them installed so bad, I could've done it before i left here

If you wanna fly me up and back again, I'll come do it Juuuust kidding, no more time left.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Have you tried PB Blaster and heat?
Me and my dad were going to do it and we both felt that it would be very difficult to do this with the small jack we had (it would only go so high) we had jack stands but we felt uncomfortable working under the car and we were also worried that yanking on the bolts while its up like that was a safety risk
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Originally Posted by 2Fast4you
Me and my dad were going to do it and we both felt that it would be very difficult to do this with the small jack we had (it would only go so high) we had jack stands but we felt uncomfortable working under the car and we were also worried that yanking on the bolts while its up like that was a safety risk
just sell the headers to me and i'll install them on my car.
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Originally Posted by ll1l2l1l2lll
just sell the headers to me and i'll install them on my car.
haha nice try these things are hard to get
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you dont have a floor jack that can get the car 12-18" off the ground?
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
you dont have a floor jack that can get the car 12-18" off the ground?
we do its just we didn't think we could get a wrench up to disconnect the down pipe from the headers
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Originally Posted by 2Fast4you
we do its just we didn't think we could get a wrench up to disconnect the down pipe from the headers
just get that baby on some stands. use an extension to get the wrench lower where you can have leverage on it. sounds as though you are going to take it somewhere no matter what.
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Originally Posted by distortedolskool
just get that baby on some stands. use an extension to get the wrench lower where you can have leverage on it. sounds as though you are going to take it somewhere no matter what.
that's not true I would like to do it myself i just wasn't sure how to do things correctly and I have never done it before so I am just a little weary
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2Fast4You....welcome........let me know if you have any problems/questions about your intake/RSB, i kinda have an 'intimate knowledge' of your new ride......and the head unit, we put the same one in mine.

And for some reason, it looks like the Tein coilovers we put on that weekend are not there anymore.



And those headers: The OEM bolts are rusted......it'll take an impact/air gun to break 'em loose!

Oh, and enjoy the bulbs...,,they're Kaixen 8500 k's!



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