Shifter cable bushings OMG!
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I have those NRG Dampers, but not sure how to install them. I was told I need to fabricate brackets. Do the ones you got need custom brackets or are they ready to bolt in. Please describe the feeling of the dampers.
No brackets needed. Just nuts and bolts.
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Big warning. You have to remove the yellow clips (change wire plate clips that hold the cables to the change wire stay) that hold the shifter wire before removing the shifter cable from the transmission or you will take a big risk of breaking the shifter cable.
That being said, I took mine out. They do very little and the damage you risk isn't worth it at all. Replacing the OEM bushings with the all aluminum bushings means several things. First, you're transferring more vibrations to the bushings on the shifter housing which means they will wear faster and need to be replaced. Secondly, the new aluminum bushings can wear on the transmission where they attach. Anyone that's had them on for a while can pull them off and should be able to see the wear. Wear enough over time and it could snap off. That means pulling the transmission apart to replace them. Not cheap (my shop saw it happen once in the past year). The OEM rubber bushings should be fine. They're a hard rubber (if they're soft, replace them with new OEM ones) and shouldn't give that much when shifting. If you're using this as a weekend racer the aluminum ones may be worth the risk but it's not something worth risking on a DD or vehicle you plan to keep for a long time.
I'm gonna throw my aluminum ones in the black market.
That being said, I took mine out. They do very little and the damage you risk isn't worth it at all. Replacing the OEM bushings with the all aluminum bushings means several things. First, you're transferring more vibrations to the bushings on the shifter housing which means they will wear faster and need to be replaced. Secondly, the new aluminum bushings can wear on the transmission where they attach. Anyone that's had them on for a while can pull them off and should be able to see the wear. Wear enough over time and it could snap off. That means pulling the transmission apart to replace them. Not cheap (my shop saw it happen once in the past year). The OEM rubber bushings should be fine. They're a hard rubber (if they're soft, replace them with new OEM ones) and shouldn't give that much when shifting. If you're using this as a weekend racer the aluminum ones may be worth the risk but it's not something worth risking on a DD or vehicle you plan to keep for a long time.
I'm gonna throw my aluminum ones in the black market.
Big warning. You have to remove the yellow clips (change wire plate clips that hold the cables to the change wire stay) that hold the shifter wire before removing the shifter cable from the transmission or you will take a big risk of breaking the shifter cable.
That being said, I took mine out. They do very little and the damage you risk isn't worth it at all. Replacing the OEM bushings with the all aluminum bushings means several things. First, you're transferring more vibrations to the bushings on the shifter housing which means they will wear faster and need to be replaced. Secondly, the new aluminum bushings can wear on the transmission where they attach. Anyone that's had them on for a while can pull them off and should be able to see the wear. Wear enough over time and it could snap off. That means pulling the transmission apart to replace them. Not cheap (my shop saw it happen once in the past year). The OEM rubber bushings should be fine. They're a hard rubber (if they're soft, replace them with new OEM ones) and shouldn't give that much when shifting. If you're using this as a weekend racer the aluminum ones may be worth the risk but it's not something worth risking on a DD or vehicle you plan to keep for a long time.
I'm gonna throw my aluminum ones in the black market.
That being said, I took mine out. They do very little and the damage you risk isn't worth it at all. Replacing the OEM bushings with the all aluminum bushings means several things. First, you're transferring more vibrations to the bushings on the shifter housing which means they will wear faster and need to be replaced. Secondly, the new aluminum bushings can wear on the transmission where they attach. Anyone that's had them on for a while can pull them off and should be able to see the wear. Wear enough over time and it could snap off. That means pulling the transmission apart to replace them. Not cheap (my shop saw it happen once in the past year). The OEM rubber bushings should be fine. They're a hard rubber (if they're soft, replace them with new OEM ones) and shouldn't give that much when shifting. If you're using this as a weekend racer the aluminum ones may be worth the risk but it's not something worth risking on a DD or vehicle you plan to keep for a long time.
I'm gonna throw my aluminum ones in the black market.
, so actually the bushings should wear before the shifter pins do, but yes you will porably see some wear on those pins though over time, but making sure to really grease them when they get installed will really help to slow that wear down also there are easier and cheaper ways to fix broken pins, then pulling apart the tranny itself, especially if you got a welder, drill out where the pin goes, make up another bracket so you can put the new bolt in doable shear (nylock nuts preferred, locktight, or safty wire to keep from looseing over time), put all back together with the bolt (tack welding the bolt on would work too, but kinda be a pain in the future to remove though), then weld that new bracket to the arm. VIOLA fixed and much stronger at that (even though the stock design was strong enough already), with a replaceable "pin" also
and i had also already mentioned the potential increase in NVH issues above btw
Big warning. You have to remove the yellow clips (change wire plate clips that hold the cables to the change wire stay) that hold the shifter wire before removing the shifter cable from the transmission or you will take a big risk of breaking the shifter cable.
That being said, I took mine out. They do very little and the damage you risk isn't worth it at all. Replacing the OEM bushings with the all aluminum bushings means several things. First, you're transferring more vibrations to the bushings on the shifter housing which means they will wear faster and need to be replaced. Secondly, the new aluminum bushings can wear on the transmission where they attach. Anyone that's had them on for a while can pull them off and should be able to see the wear. Wear enough over time and it could snap off. That means pulling the transmission apart to replace them. Not cheap (my shop saw it happen once in the past year). The OEM rubber bushings should be fine. They're a hard rubber (if they're soft, replace them with new OEM ones) and shouldn't give that much when shifting. If you're using this as a weekend racer the aluminum ones may be worth the risk but it's not something worth risking on a DD or vehicle you plan to keep for a long time.
I'm gonna throw my aluminum ones in the black market.
That being said, I took mine out. They do very little and the damage you risk isn't worth it at all. Replacing the OEM bushings with the all aluminum bushings means several things. First, you're transferring more vibrations to the bushings on the shifter housing which means they will wear faster and need to be replaced. Secondly, the new aluminum bushings can wear on the transmission where they attach. Anyone that's had them on for a while can pull them off and should be able to see the wear. Wear enough over time and it could snap off. That means pulling the transmission apart to replace them. Not cheap (my shop saw it happen once in the past year). The OEM rubber bushings should be fine. They're a hard rubber (if they're soft, replace them with new OEM ones) and shouldn't give that much when shifting. If you're using this as a weekend racer the aluminum ones may be worth the risk but it's not something worth risking on a DD or vehicle you plan to keep for a long time.
I'm gonna throw my aluminum ones in the black market.
I beg to differ, they DO feel a lot better and less like you're shifting a wet noodle than a solid shifter. Have you driven with it? maybe if your OEM bushings wore out more you would feel a little more of a difference. And a checkup every 20k miles or so should eliminate any possible malfunctions.
I beg to differ, they DO feel a lot better and less like you're shifting a wet noodle than a solid shifter. Have you driven with it? maybe if your OEM bushings wore out more you would feel a little more of a difference. And a checkup every 20k miles or so should eliminate any possible malfunctions.
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What's a "change wire"?
Your talking about the cables on top of the trans where the bushings go? Your talking about the clips you pry out to replace the bushings?
I'm not following.
Your talking about the cables on top of the trans where the bushings go? Your talking about the clips you pry out to replace the bushings?
I'm not following.
Honda calls it the change wire, the rest of the world calls it shifter cables.
IIRC hes talking about the spacers that go above and below the bushing on the stock setup. Its been a long time since I did mine, but IIRC that spacer will no longer fit. They probably looked yellow because there may have been a bit of rust forming.
IIRC hes talking about the spacers that go above and below the bushing on the stock setup. Its been a long time since I did mine, but IIRC that spacer will no longer fit. They probably looked yellow because there may have been a bit of rust forming.
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Honda calls it the change wire, the rest of the world calls it shifter cables.
IIRC hes talking about the spacers that go above and below the bushing on the stock setup. Its been a long time since I did mine, but IIRC that spacer will no longer fit. They probably looked yellow because there may have been a bit of rust forming.
IIRC hes talking about the spacers that go above and below the bushing on the stock setup. Its been a long time since I did mine, but IIRC that spacer will no longer fit. They probably looked yellow because there may have been a bit of rust forming.
I'm referring to the small clips labeled 9 in the diagram that hold the wires to the block labeled 1.
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I'm not saying that it can't be done. Just that there's a good risk that you could break the cable where it attaches to the block which would mean you'd have to replace the entire thing (labeled 1 in the diagram).