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Old 11-30-2009, 07:58 PM
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sh-awd on a cl

Im just curious if anyone has looked into putting the tl sh-awd system in a cl. Is it possible. I assume it would cost too much for anyone to ever consider just wondering if its technically possible.
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Interesting idea...

But the cost, and effort wouldn't be worth it. If you want a coupe with AWD, check out a used BMW 328xi coupe.
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Originally Posted by Paclark01
Interesting idea...

But the cost, and effort wouldn't be worth it. If you want a coupe with AWD, check out a used BMW 328xi coupe.
Ill be keeping my Cl till it falls apart. No new car for me in the next 10 years i hope.
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it's definitely do able, but too much work.
if u have time and space to do it, it'd be nice.

perfect thing will be to find a SH-AWD that was in a roll over crash.


i am eventually gonna turn my CL into RWD. 2JZ with 240 rear end. But thats way out in future, i dont even know when i'll have time for it. but its definitely on my to do list.
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:31 PM
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I dont like the TL styling plus you see a TL at every street light.
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I've seen people taking the awd setup from the Element and putting it on Civic's so I wouldn't say it's impossible. The cost involved in using the SH-AWD on the other hand has a lot of mechanical things going on along with all the software changes needed to make it work.

I would need to win the lotto to invest that much money into my CLS6. I love the car but NOT that much.
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Originally Posted by stlswagger
I've seen people taking the awd setup from the Element and putting it on Civic's so I wouldn't say it's impossible. The cost involved in using the SH-AWD on the other hand has a lot of mechanical things going on along with all the software changes needed to make it work.

I would need to win the lotto to invest that much money into my CLS6. I love the car but NOT that much.
you would be better off transplanting the whole drivetrain, motor, and harness probably in order to get it to work. Anything can be done, its just how much money do you want to put into it.
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^x2 also all the electronics that are inside the car (that deal with drivability)
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The SH-AWD system, as great as it is, I think is too complicated. Id much rather see a streetable RWD CL.
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Originally Posted by stlswagger
I've seen people taking the awd setup from the Element and putting it on Civic's so I wouldn't say it's impossible. The cost involved in using the SH-AWD on the other hand has a lot of mechanical things going on along with all the software changes needed to make it work.

I would need to win the lotto to invest that much money into my CLS6. I love the car but NOT that much.
Keep in mind that the Element has a K series motor and utilizes RT-4WD. Its a different system. Its "less smart" if you prefer.

No electro-nannies pushing torque to one wheel.
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anything possible if you got money. the question is, is it really worth it. id say no.
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Wouldn't the weight severely offset the power also? Our engines aren't too torquey.
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if gonna spend this much money for the awd set up. u can afford a blower or turbo.
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I agree with what you all have said, but i still think having the only rwd/awd CL would be pretty nice. I wont do it myself but maybe someone else can.
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I think the best way to do it would be to cut the chassis off the both cars and drop the CL body on to it. I know it sounds easy and all. but, do able.
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possible. u would need to fab engine mounts and figure out a way to mount the engine longitudinally. unless the new TL's engine is still transverse.

in that case, you will need the engine, tranny, diff for rear and the hub assemblies. its very possible.
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Originally Posted by phee
possible. u would need to fab engine mounts and figure out a way to mount the engine longitudinally. unless the new TL's engine is still transverse.

in that case, you will need the engine, tranny, diff for rear and the hub assemblies. its very possible.
its still transverse, I had a loaner from the dealer when I took my moms RL in.
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maybe you guys should just look at a 01 mdx system (pretty sure it was their test bed for the SH-AWD, honda just had not coined the name yet)

tranny should bolt right up and you proably just need the rear crossmember too, but the biggest issues would be the electronics
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better off just buying the real thing
that's what I did
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im goin crazy about Audi S4 B5 Avant in manual car is AWD V6 and biturbo stock... only with chip and catback you got 320WHP... thats a real thing
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im goin crazy about Audi S4 B5 Avant in manual car is AWD V6 and biturbo stock... only with chip and catback you got 320WHP... thats a real thing
and pay out your ass in maintence costs, to keep the damn thing on the road
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and pay out your ass in maintence costs, to keep the damn thing on the road
^ i know but still amazing car
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^ i know but still amazing car
yeah nice when they are not broken which is almost never
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Originally Posted by friesm2000
yeah nice when they are not broken which is almost never
what about B6 ? same ? the 4.2 V8 AWD?
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I FOUND THE SOLUTION: Lock front wheels, pick up the frame, put the frame back on backwords. Now your a rear engine RWD CL.
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what about B6 ? same ? the 4.2 V8 AWD?
ummm..... any audi
only way i would ever own one is with a warrenty
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Originally Posted by Jacobpockros
I FOUND THE SOLUTION: Lock front wheels, pick up the frame, put the frame back on backwords. Now your a rear engine RWD CL.
Don't forget to remove the rear seats so the engine will fit
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Originally Posted by abp6spd
Don't forget to remove the rear seats so the engine will fit
thinking the same thing,




also make sure to remove the gas tank before you start cutting and welding, we actually want to see it finished
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Originally Posted by brian6speed
I agree with what you all have said, but i still think having the only rwd/awd CL would be pretty nice. I wont do it myself but maybe someone else can.
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Originally Posted by friesm2000
ummm..... any audi
only way i would ever own one is with a warrenty
A very good warranty. I'll wait till the 2.0t has been out a few more years. Dying for the A5 2.0t because after having a B6 6 speed, I already know the potential but man, the maintenance to keep that thing on the road was crazy. Might as well save 100 a month to pay for each new extended warranty lol.
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Originally Posted by DC3328
not exactly streetable though, and it is a space framed car (tube chassis)
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well he didnt specify
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well he didnt specify
no he did not specify, but the feeling i got from it was a steetable cl ,that could be a DD
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to late buddy
late buddy? is he dead?
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late buddy? is he dead?
no I was sharing a rwd CL
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Originally Posted by nspec_ya4
late buddy? is he dead?
in that he would not be the first rwd/awd CL out there, but he might still be able to be the first streetable rwd/awd out there
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Thats if you use the word streetable loosely.


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