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Old 06-28-2004, 01:17 PM
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RPM signal Wire

Can someone tell me where the RPM wire is? Trying to hook up the e-man

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This is a blue wire that is located behind the air filter housing in the engine bay that is not connected to anything and at the end of the blue wire there is a connector that mechanics use to connect the car to an rpm guage to get accurate rpm measurements.

I connected my autometer tach to this blue wire by splicing the wire before the connector so that the mechanics could still connect their devices to it. I'm guessing this is why you need to know where the blue wire is?

I will take a picture of it when I get home for you to show you where it is exactly.
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honda has been using the same color wire forever

it's always blue
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ahh. i was trying to find one in the one of the connectors in the ecu, since all my wires are there.
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Originally Posted by motioneffects
ahh. i was trying to find one in the one of the connectors in the ecu, since all my wires are there.

it should also be a solid blue wire at the ECU
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After looking in the engine bay I realized I used the blue wire connected to the ECU instead of the one in the engine bay because i was having a hard time passing a wire through the firewall opening.

I took some pics of the engine bay if you still need to know where the blue wire is, so if you need the pics let me know. If not, the one connected to the ECU will work just fine good luck!
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Originally Posted by slyraskal
After looking in the engine bay I realized I used the blue wire connected to the ECU instead of the one in the engine bay because i was having a hard time passing a wire through the firewall opening.

I took some pics of the engine bay if you still need to know where the blue wire is, so if you need the pics let me know. If not, the one connected to the ECU will work just fine good luck!

Yea, i looked down ther and there was couple of blue solid wire so im not sure which one it is....Maybe its connector A
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i think its A19 (NEP)....not too sure
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Here is the pin info about which wire it is on each model of the CL (MT/AT), it's different between the automatic and manual.

Manual Tranny ( it's the White Connector (E) Pin 3 - Blue Wire)

Automatic Tranny ( it's the Gray Connector (A) Pin 19 - Blue Wire)

Can someone please verify this to ensure that i'm correct before this poor guy goes and cuts his ecu lines.
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Originally Posted by motioneffects
i think its A19 (NEP)....not too sure
The NEP signal is the one you want.
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Ah, thank you everyone hope the e-man goes succesfully
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Ah, thank you everyone hope the e-man goes succesfully
I assume you mean E-Manage. What are your intentions with it and have you set the jumpers/rotary settings??
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Originally Posted by scalbert
The NEP signal is the one you want.
Isn't it a different wire though that connects to the ECU depending on what kinda tranny the car has? My HELM's manual said it's different.

Both are NEP but are on different connections to the ECU
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Originally Posted by slyraskal
Isn't it a different wire though that connects to the ECU depending on what kinda tranny the car has? My HELM's manual said it's different.

Both are NEP but are on different connections to the ECU
Correct, the NEP signal is located on different connectors depending on transaxle. The 5AT has it on A and the 6-Speed has it on C.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
Correct, the NEP signal is located on different connectors depending on transaxle. The 5AT has it on A and the 6-Speed has it on C.
When I checked my HELM's manual last night It said E3 for the manual. possibly typo in the manual?
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I'll have to check but there are only three connectors for the 6-Speed.
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Originally Posted by scalbert
I'll have to check but there are only three connectors for the 6-Speed.
Yup, only three connectors.

I remember when I looked in the HELM's Electrical manual in the schematic section where it shows which wires connect to certain gauges, it label the "RPM Output" from the ECU as "A/T A19, M/T E3"

That's where I got that information from. I also checked in the rear of the manual where it shows the diagrams for the connectors and it was also labeled as E3 in that section as well.

Originally Posted by slyraskal
Here is the pin info about which wire it is on each model of the CL (MT/AT), it's different between the automatic and manual.

Manual Tranny ( it's the White Connector (E) Pin 3 - Blue Wire)

Automatic Tranny ( it's the Gray Connector (A) Pin 19 - Blue Wire)
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Originally Posted by scalbert
I assume you mean E-Manage. What are your intentions with it and have you set the jumpers/rotary settings??

Planning to get a supercharger in the near future and I wanted to hook up the e-manage and play with the timing for now. Right the jumper setting are:

SW1: 7
SW2: 8
SW3: D

JP1: 1-2
JP2: 2-3
JP3: 2-3
JP4: 1-2
JP5: Off
JP6: Off
JP7: Off

I just hooked everything thing up tonight and the car didn't run right at all. The other thing is, the ignition fuse keeps blowing, so i disconnected the wiring for the ignition. Definitly need some help with this
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That is close but I have one setting different, JP2:

rotary settings 7-8-D
JP1 1-2
JP2 1-2
JP3 2-3
JP4 1-2 (on)
JP5 off
JP6 off
JP7 off

Mine has been running flawlessly since November with these settings and my harness. I have also had it in a TL-S without problems using a straight through harness. So it can and does work, now you just have to find out why it isn't for you; lots of fun.

Did you hardwire in the whole thing?? If so that must be a mess of wires under there. Anyway, I would trace down each and every lead to be sure it is correct. Just to be sure, below are the ECU connections for the E-Manage excluding the single tap on Connector A, No. 19, NEP signal. I need to complete these with the appropriate connections to the E-Manage which I probably will just with the E-Manage color designations.



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i'll try the to verified all the wirings are correct with your diagram. thank you
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Can you send me the pix please..... djdh617@gmail.com looking for rpm wire

Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
This is a blue wire that is located behind the air filter housing in the engine bay that is not connected to anything and at the end of the blue wire there is a connector that mechanics use to connect the car to an rpm guage to get accurate rpm measurements.

I connected my autometer tach to this blue wire by splicing the wire before the connector so that the mechanics could still connect their devices to it. I'm guessing this is why you need to know where the blue wire is?

I will take a picture of it when I get home for you to show you where it is exactly.
can you send me a pix pls @ djdh617@gmail.com
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Can you send me the pix please..... djdh617@gmail.com looking for rpm wire

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Yea, i looked down ther and there was couple of blue solid wire so im not sure which one it is....Maybe its connector A
I dont even see the blue wire 2005 tl
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Send the pix pls

Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
After looking in the engine bay I realized I used the blue wire connected to the ECU instead of the one in the engine bay because i was having a hard time passing a wire through the firewall opening.

I took some pics of the engine bay if you still need to know where the blue wire is, so if you need the pics let me know. If not, the one connected to the ECU will work just fine good luck!
send pix @ djdh617@gmail.com
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DJ, this is the forum for the 2G CL. wiring will be much different and most of the people on the original discussion have not logged into the site for some time i.e are long gone.

You'd probably find some help looking in the 3G TL forum for a service manual that will detail the information you are looking for.
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