RL Cams 2006
05-26-2006, 10:47 PM
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dsmn right about that, I can't even peal the tires out from a standstill with the 245 series rubber and warmer temprature. I need a little power off the line dammit. if anybody can find a good mechanic in the NY area, let me know. Might have to find an acura mechanic to do this.
05-26-2006, 10:51 PM
#42
my shop can handle it. www.rpmnyc.com
thinjim - thanks for clarifying. but if you run the part numbers, they are exactly the same. the valve springs and retainer springs are exact part numbers. the exhaust valve springs are slightly different, but there is no change in exhaust lift. i'm getting confused.
typeR - exactly, i'm not looking for peak power with cams, i'm looking for low end. the car will bite off the line not typical of a FWD application.
thinjim - thanks for clarifying. but if you run the part numbers, they are exactly the same. the valve springs and retainer springs are exact part numbers. the exhaust valve springs are slightly different, but there is no change in exhaust lift. i'm getting confused.
typeR - exactly, i'm not looking for peak power with cams, i'm looking for low end. the car will bite off the line not typical of a FWD application.
05-29-2006, 01:16 AM
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unlikely but possible would probablly have to turn 8.5K rpms
05-29-2006, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CLsuperhero
I'm just curious can you swap in these cams if you have a UR crank pulley? I don't want to sound like a noob but would this mess up the timing if you didn't use the stock crank pulley?
05-29-2006, 11:21 AM
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allmotor - what were your mods for 271 n/a whp? i followed your progress closely using the search, but your posts go from n/a to your turbo project quickly, maybe i missed something?
The car was pretty even with a stock M3 coupe once its rolling, of course. I busted my clutch at the drag-strip running a 13.5 @ 103 or something. The car was capable of 105-106. If you go figure out the power needed for the weight of the car, its around 275whp.
05-29-2006, 01:46 PM
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The oil eating issues are still around but more reaching typeR's levels. I currently am eating about 1/2 a quart every 400 miles or so. It seems like as my mileage goes up, the oil consumption goes down, typical of a new motor i guess. Cars running great though and still have no dynos 
Money's tight now since I have a side biz thing coming up, but I wanna do it soon though to see why my FP has dropped to ~ 35 psi and ask them why the heck i smell oil all the time.
Money's tight now since I have a side biz thing coming up, but I wanna do it soon though to see why my FP has dropped to ~ 35 psi and ask them why the heck i smell oil all the time.
05-30-2006, 02:18 AM
#50
Originally Posted by typeR
our vavlve springs were engineered to take the 7100 rpm fuel cut of the 36.389 lobe
05-30-2006, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
Damn, so we have fuel cut off as opposed to spark cut off? I asked this in another thread, but was never answered. Seems like you answered my question.
05-30-2006, 09:15 PM
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Think this mod would have more gains in a non type S CL or TL?
05-31-2006, 01:55 AM
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Its very unlikely you're going to have an advantage over a J32A2 (Type-S) by installing these cams.
The J32A1 still has lower compression and a lower redline......
The J32A1 still has lower compression and a lower redline......
05-31-2006, 11:34 AM
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I mean, if someone were to install type S cams on a P, they would gain some power, but if they install RL cams on a P, they should gain a lot more power IMO...sound right?
05-31-2006, 12:08 PM
#56
in short, yes.
as far as i know, i havent seen any 'specific' gains yet. we can only guess until either i, thinjim, or johntypes posts up a dyno. i think we are the only 3 actually in the midst of install. my guess is that john will be the first to post a dyno, he is just doing the cams. which will actually be a very good comparison because he still has the regular 3.2 and then i will have the 3.5.
as far as i know, i havent seen any 'specific' gains yet. we can only guess until either i, thinjim, or johntypes posts up a dyno. i think we are the only 3 actually in the midst of install. my guess is that john will be the first to post a dyno, he is just doing the cams. which will actually be a very good comparison because he still has the regular 3.2 and then i will have the 3.5.
05-31-2006, 02:29 PM
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Awsome John, I am assuming that since I have the CL type S cams in my 3.0 Accord that the RL cams would fit in my car too.................
Any track trips planned anytime soon? Im dying and the Sonor kid wants to go too.
Any track trips planned anytime soon? Im dying and the Sonor kid wants to go too.
06-02-2006, 07:15 AM
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If a company was to make a performance camshaft for the 3.5 RL I guess it could also fit our CL ? ..... I tried to search the web but I couldn't find any. I know spoon tricked out an RL but there was no engine modification...sucks...
man I'm really anxious to hear feedback from you about this .......
man I'm really anxious to hear feedback from you about this .......
06-02-2006, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by banana
If a company was to make a performance camshaft for the 3.5 RL I guess it could also fit our CL ? ..... I tried to search the web but I couldn't find any. I know spoon tricked out an RL but there was no engine modification...sucks...
man I'm really anxious to hear feedback from you about this .......
man I'm really anxious to hear feedback from you about this .......
Don't waste your time looking. We tried this many times and unfortunately there was not enough interest from the manufacturers.
06-07-2006, 03:25 PM
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NO But serge did he is putting them in next week,I will post for him or he will he also is dyno before and after
I had some house expence come up
I had some house expence come up
06-07-2006, 11:06 PM
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So does anyone know for sure if these RL cams will fit a J30 because this is very interesting to me I'd love to get some more low end hp. Also does anyone now a good site online to buy these RL cams or even some CL-S cams?
06-10-2006, 12:49 AM
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Is all you need to do this mod the RL front and rear cams? New valve springs needed? Would RL pistons/rods help out or gain more power? How many hours of labor would be expected and how hard is this installation?
06-10-2006, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by HockeyMan0920
Is all you need to do this mod the RL front and rear cams? New valve springs needed? Would RL pistons/rods help out or gain more power? How many hours of labor would be expected and how hard is this installation?
probably a lot of labor involved in swapping out pistons/rods and if you did you would still have the weaker sleeves that j32a1 has.
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06-10-2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
probably a lot of labor involved in swapping out pistons/rods and if you did you would still have the weaker sleeves that j32a1 has.
06-10-2006, 01:17 PM
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From what I was told, the sleeves from the J32a1 and J32a2 block are completely different. When they pull my J32a1 out, I'll take pics of my j32a2 block and j32a1 block to compare.
06-10-2006, 01:28 PM
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what about tuning it with the NEO or vafc2? Is that needed?
06-13-2006, 01:56 PM
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If my car were running yet after my 6 speed swap (almost is- waiting on a O2 sensor) i would buy them and install them. I still may. 
06-13-2006, 02:30 PM
#76
Received my RL cams and they look like a direct fit. The PRI/SEC lobe height are a tad larger than CL-S and that's what we need - more lift.
Pics time:
The installation has been rescheduled for next Tuesday. Then dyno follows in a week or so.
Pics time:
The installation has been rescheduled for next Tuesday. Then dyno follows in a week or so.
06-13-2006, 04:28 PM
#78
i thought we established they are a direct fit, this is not the quesiton. the question is what will the gains be? and primary / secondary are the only differences.
if anything, a TINY lope, nothing noticeable, but i doubt you would notice.
what you will notice is a bigger grunt on the low end. maybe when we hit the 4th gear wall now it won't be so bad.
if anything, a TINY lope, nothing noticeable, but i doubt you would notice.
what you will notice is a bigger grunt on the low end. maybe when we hit the 4th gear wall now it won't be so bad.
06-13-2006, 04:46 PM
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I feel you on that, but isnt it proporitonal, the bigger the horsepower gain the more of a blip there is gonna be. I know its a direct fit, thats not the issue that I was bringing up.
06-13-2006, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pits200
I feel you on that, but isnt it proporitonal, the bigger the horsepower gain the more of a blip there is gonna be. I know its a direct fit, thats not the issue that I was bringing up.