While driving home from work yesterday, I came accross something tha made me laugh. I pulled up next to a kid driving a camry. It was late model, 4 door, probably a 97 or 98 model. The car had some cheap looking 17's on the back with 40 series tires. No rims on the front, just the stock steel wheels with no hub caps. He also had a huge coffee can mufler. But what really got my attention was the giant red "Type R" sticker on the front fender, right in front of the drivers door.

The kid's window was down, so I rolled my passenger window down and looked at him. He looked over at me and I said "cool car dude, I didn't know Toyota made a type r. When did you get that?" He just looked at me but would not say anything. Then the light turned green and he drove away. Hopefully he went home and peeled the sticker off. What a dork!

 

hahah, good one!

What an idiot. At least he would of said something when you talked to him.

I bet as soon as he got home he took off those badges.

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In California.....well you just don't do that or you may be faced with a gun....know what I mean ?

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Well, I know what you mean. I would hardly even make eye contact with a thief much less ask him where he got his goods.


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Speaking of ricey idiots

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=583345896" target="_blank">Must be on Crack</a>

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Buy it!!!

 

Sneakypete do you play AQ2??? Or used to???

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I saw a Dodge Neon with GTR badges from a Nissan Skyline and a banner that said "Street Fighter". I just laughed.

 

On the way to the South Florida met today, we came across a ricey integra and next to it was a civic. the civic looked fine but when we came up to it, the honda symbol on the truck was taken off and they put a red back-lit Acura emblem. I was just laughing my ass off.

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Hey how was the meet? I was gonna go for an hour, but realized it was to far for me to goto (Was working today)

 

The meet was awesome. In a few days my brother (larryb) will be posting pictures. it was alot of fun.

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I saw one a few weeks ago it was a mercedes C-230 or something, but it had an AMG badge on it. I never knew that AMG modified 4 bangers

 

these people dont realize that camrys are fwd and the new wheels would only improve handling/grip if placed on the front. I just love seeing CRX's with 18's in the rear and 17's in the front.

 

i saw a red dodge neon that had a TYPE S sticker and on the side doors, it had stickers saying EIBACH SPRINGs, and the car wasnt even dropped. On top of that, it had some shiny mismatched chrome hubcaps. He thought he was the coolest guy in the world, I just looked at him and said, "Nice Ride"
with a tid bit of sarcasm

 

Actually there's a very logical reason to have smaller rims in the front, specifically due to its FWD nature. The smaller the rim, the less rotating mass towards the outer edges of the wheel/tire combo and the less power it takes to spin the wheels, thereby increasing acceleration capabilities. This is why you see hubcapped tires in front and 17/18's in the rear with rims. It's not about image in this case, it's about performance, something that u might take a lesson on for stoplight races. And if that CRX had an engine swap, watch out. You could have an 15 lb 18 inch rim in the front, but the mass is still moved out towards the outer edges which still increases the resistance to start rolling and continue rolling, therefore even a lighter racing 18 inch rim will still resist the tendency to roll over a semi-lightweight 16 incher or 15 incher. There's a reason for certain modifications but if you're not within the scene itself, you won't know what it's for and just knock it off as rice or idiotic. I'll letcha find the hidden point in this post...


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You acctually have it backwards. You are correct that less rotating mass does require less speed to turn. In a RWD you would want a wider tire in back than up front. The wider tires increases the amount of traction the car can achieve. A smaller rim/tire up front decreases the rolling resistance. Thats's why when you see the V8 or V12 monsters they have giant meats in the back and less up front.

Now when you put a wide tire in back and narrow tires up front on a FWD you defeat the whole purpose. First you are increasing rolling resistance thereby making your car slower. Secondly, it just shows that you were too anxious and couldn't wait and save up for all 4 rims. Finally, all the rice rocketiers out there do setup their wheels like this for image. If they did understand cars, they would realize they are idiots and that's why people are laghing at them.

 

worst ricejob ever...wood body kit on a Cavalier

 

now he doesn't have to worry about floods in his area

all he has to do is drive/float right through it...his intake won't get soaked at all

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These are funny shuutt... Kind of the floaty thing you see in back to future....Funny how some people like to show everyone how idiot they are.... no taste at all...

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Thats not rice...that's just plain ghetto...the bad part is that he/she spent many hours on this project...

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No I'm sorry but I don't have it backwards. I believe you misunderstood me. This had nothing to do with RWD machines although I can see your point clearly in relation to them however, This post had nothing to do with rim width. A wider rim will allow someone to increase the tire width as well, and the object of this is to increase the total surface area of the contact patch to spread the heat production cause by the friction of take off and therefore reduce the tendency for the tire to lose grip due to this heat. This was about rim diameter, 17's and 18's, as he specifically said it was stupid to have 17's on the front and 18's in the back. 17's have less mass towards the outer edges (not outer edges as in width but as in diameter). Look at any front wheel drive drag competition car and you will see small rims in front and larger rims in back, diameter speaking.



Also take a look at the Signal Auto Chop top civic version number 2.

Secondly, for arguments sake, wider tires with a wider contact patch will also bog down a car that doesn't have the power to make it spin at an optimal rate, therefore increasing the resistance to move. RWD cars have wider tires in back to enhance this increase in resistance so they don't instantly lose traction with narrow tires, such as muscle cars, where as you said, have smaller tires in front to decrease the resistance to move so they can just go along for the ride. One only needs to look at Top Fuel Dragsters for the absolute epitome of this style.

These "ricer idiots", as you'd like to call them, more than likely have no high performance add-on whatsoever (as in forced induction) and only have bolt-ons, and therefore their power will actually hinder the ability to get the car moving with wider tires, unless ofcourse they rev and then drop the clutch at a specified rpm where they don't lose too much grip at too high of an rpm, but also not too low of an rpm where they bog down the engine. Balance is they key in that respect. I'm assuming here that they don't have high performance add-ons, and therefore generalizing, which can be considered inaccurate, however assuming that the ones with hubs in the front aren't any wider in width and therefore are doin it for image is also inaccurate as well. The ones with forced induction would be smart to by a smaller diameter rim or hubcap, but at the same time make sure it's wider than stock to enhance their take off at the rpm's that suit them. You are also assuming that they don't have the money to purchase all 4 rims just because they only have 2 on. That's pretty idiotic in my opinion. Some may, some may not, just as the situation with higher perfromance add-ons. Following this logic of assumption though, I'll therefore make the assumption and generalization then that you either:

A)Drive a higher class luxury automobile and take the stereotype of "rice rocketeers" to heart for some various reasons, maybe you were bullied by some at school or they were the ones with girlfriends.

B)You drive a DSM or Toyota or some other various turbo'd car and have the typical elitist attitude of the aformentioned vehicle owners who diss honda owners and domestic owners a like. And you favorite site is probably www.shitonhonda.com

C1)You drive a domestic vehicle and like to make assumptions about all those "rice rocketiers" with wannabe altezza rear lights and therefore assume every 4 cylinder honda you run into is generally the same way, and hate a "fart" exhaust eventhough you fail to realize this is the lower displacement engine that causes the higher pitch and the free flowing exhaust that enchance the top end of the hp band where honda's hp counts, and may suffer some power in torque, however further benefits can be seen if forced induced as a free-flowing exhaust really shines on such vehicles.

C2) You're an older domestic driver that sticks to watchin NASCAR and Top Fuel and any other NHRA class driving, and anyother type of racing, especially involving an import or a 4 cylinder is rediculous and a waste of time for these "damn little punk rice rocketeers".

Even if all my assumptions are wrong, which I'm sure they are, u can therefore see my point in over generalizing and what kind of a mistake it is to do.

But the point still remains, smaller diameter rims in front and larger rims in back on a FWD car is better for take off (excluding any debating on width) and that was my point to begin with.

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imo, this is applicable to many within the forum.



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After some thinking about what I posted though, I can see how some may not be able to afford the front rims in certain situations, however it's easy to generalize them all as not being able to afford them. I've seen some where they just have all black hubcaps, and more than likely, they have just taken the wheel covers off instead of actually purchasing wider performance tires coupled with wider hubs. If you consider this rice, so be it, I stand corrected in this situation, many don't have the luxury of spending thousands of dollars on rims n tires only to have them bent at the street races, and the performance value of hubcaps in the front and larger rims in the back still remain to a certain extent, a shadow of the Real deal Wide smaller diameter hubcaps with performance tires in front and larger diameter narrow lightweight rims with either regular or performance tires in the back, which is good for racing but simply not feasible for everyday use. I guess that makes anyone who purchases lowering springs such as the comptechs instead of going with full blown threaded coilover dampers as rice too, simply because they're not going as far as they possibly can. And this may actually also boil down to your view of the illegal street races. I won't get into that, as the pro- and anti- on boards is probably as heated as abortion rights. But I will say street races have been goin on since the "hot rod" was born, and nothing will ever curb that spectical of underground automobiles. It's funny how it went on before with old domestic floating boats, but nowadays it's looked at as rediculous, immature, and stupid, but that doesn't stop the hypocrites of yesteryear from dissing these races while holding the olden days as "great". I also find it funny how they can rally up with this RASR crap, yet they cancel any and all street legal racing at the very track it was born at, Pomona Raceway (which actually helped curb illegal racing by having a venue for these "street racers" to go to rather than racing on the street), simply because the noise level was too high for the surrounding suburbanites (eventhough they fully knew what they were getting into when moving there considering the track has been there for what, almost 50 years? so I'm sure it's been there longer than the surrounding rich, old, tight-ass Clairmont folk), where in reality the noiselevel isn't reduced at all by cancelling this because the real noise is coming from the top fuel and funny car competitions so they'll still be annoyed. However NHRA found an easy way out of the limit of days on the Raceway by curbing their lowest rank of racing events, the Street legals. It's like putting a law into effect that effectively cancels football games at the Rose Bowl because it attracts too many people and too much noise. If RASR wants to do something constructive, sanction some events for the Street Legal Racers out there, and I'm not talking about these Battle of the Imports or NIRA Nats where 700bhp imports compete because they have the money to back up the machines and the sponsors, such as jerkys that appear in every magazine such as Steph. I'm talkin about honest to god joe blow street racers (those "punk ricers" you hate) and even the average joe blow domestic racers. Money has always been a way of judging class and ofcourse it has effected the sport of racing as well. How fast do ya wanna go? Well how much money do ya have?

[This message has been edited by -=SoCalV6=- (edited 04-30-2001).]

 

Geeze....the only reason I mentioned the lack of matching front rims was to better describe the car. I did not really have a problem with the rims, just the giant red type r sticker on the car. That is what got my attention.

 

Sneakypete, my original original post wasn't directed towards you, it was directed towards z28WRXkid's comment grip only being improved if they're placed on the front, but that's only in the case of hugging corners, which isn't want everyone automatically chooses to improve, and I explained the reasons why they'd have regular wheels/tires in front and larger diameter rims/tires in back, primarily for stop light racing which is the primary sport of these "rice racers". Then my further posts were in regards to Turbo's reply. I had no problem with your first post.

Personally I'll sacrafice the stoplight confrontation ability for the superior traction and uniform looks of my 18's both front n rear...

[This message has been edited by -=SoCalV6=- (edited 04-30-2001).]

 

i do it all the time