Ranking the Mods in Order of HP/Performance
05-26-2001, 09:31 PM
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Ranking the Mods in Order of HP/Performance
So, once again, starting from #1 -- # ?
What are the Mods that one should do to Increase there Performance / HP / To our Cars ?
What are the Mods that one should do to Increase there Performance / HP / To our Cars ?
05-26-2001, 09:58 PM
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headers of course is #1, then intake, then pulleys, then maybe VFAC, then exhuast. the is just my guess.
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05-26-2001, 10:05 PM
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Bang for buck:
#1 - Intake
#2 - PCM mod
#3 - Headers
#4 - Turbo or Supercharger
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#1 - Intake
#2 - PCM mod
#3 - Headers
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05-26-2001, 10:28 PM
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The order which I plan to do my mods:
#1 - CAI
(#2 - Comptech Axle-back exhaust (possibly or not at all - still undecided. Will decide once CAI is installed))
#2 - 18" wheels and tires (same weight or less than stocks if possible)
#3 - Replace the Blose system with real sound power. Especially since we have that big-ass trunk.
#4 - Supercharger should be available and perfected by the time I ever can afford it.
-J
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#1 - CAI
(#2 - Comptech Axle-back exhaust (possibly or not at all - still undecided. Will decide once CAI is installed))
#2 - 18" wheels and tires (same weight or less than stocks if possible)
#3 - Replace the Blose system with real sound power. Especially since we have that big-ass trunk.
#4 - Supercharger should be available and perfected by the time I ever can afford it.
-J
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05-26-2001, 10:30 PM
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hey dipshits, he was asking for most hp upgrades, not what u want to do with your car
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Comptech Headers, Sways, Springs, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
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V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, Springs, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
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05-26-2001, 10:46 PM
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LOL ! Hilarious. That's ok Type S, I don't mind getting a little "EXTRA" info along the way. By the way: Explain a PCM MOD ?
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Type S Smokes All:
hey dipshits, he was asking for most hp upgrades, not what u want to do with your car
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hey dipshits, he was asking for most hp upgrades, not what u want to do with your car
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05-26-2001, 11:47 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by caddy:
By the way: Explain a PCM MOD ?
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By the way: Explain a PCM MOD ?
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Go to www.jetchip.com and READ THE FAQ's
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05-26-2001, 11:53 PM
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Perfect. Thanks for the Info. If you sent it before, I missed it.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ogolden1:
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Go to www.jetchip.com and READ THE FAQ's
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It's getting old!
Go to www.jetchip.com and READ THE FAQ's
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05-27-2001, 04:26 PM
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I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!
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I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
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05-27-2001, 05:21 PM
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Facts on getting on the Computer MOD is that it's not worth it--for the $$--unless you have Forced Induction.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by caddy:
Perfect. Thanks for the Info. If you sent it before, I missed it.
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Perfect. Thanks for the Info. If you sent it before, I missed it.
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05-27-2001, 07:15 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by caddy:
Computer MOD is that it's not worth it--for the $$--unless you have Forced Induction.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Computer MOD is that it's not worth it--for the $$--unless you have Forced Induction.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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1)CAI - $180/average 6hp gain = $30/HP
2)PCM mod - $250/average 10hp gain = $25/HP
3)Headers - $1300[m&l]/ 27hp gain = $48/HP
4)Supercharger - $4,500/50hp gain = $90/HP
PCM mod is ACTUALLY the LOWEST cost per HP!
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05-27-2001, 07:26 PM
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Whattup Fellas,
When are are exterior mods such as body kits, aftermarket spoilers, fender flares, carbon-fiber hoods, etc., coming out for the CL? I've seen the Wings West kit for the TL and I think it is tight! Give me an update fellas! Oh yeah, anybody know about a supercharger kit for the CL?
Peace
When are are exterior mods such as body kits, aftermarket spoilers, fender flares, carbon-fiber hoods, etc., coming out for the CL? I've seen the Wings West kit for the TL and I think it is tight! Give me an update fellas! Oh yeah, anybody know about a supercharger kit for the CL?
Peace
05-27-2001, 07:27 PM
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Whattup Fellas,
When are are exterior mods such as body kits, aftermarket spoilers, fender flares, carbon-fiber hoods, etc., coming out for the CL? I've seen the Wings West kit for the TL and I think it is tight! Give me an update fellas! Oh yeah, anybody know about a supercharger kit for the CL?
Peace
When are are exterior mods such as body kits, aftermarket spoilers, fender flares, carbon-fiber hoods, etc., coming out for the CL? I've seen the Wings West kit for the TL and I think it is tight! Give me an update fellas! Oh yeah, anybody know about a supercharger kit for the CL?
Peace
05-27-2001, 08:26 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mugen_Power:
Whattup Fellas,
When are are exterior mods such as body kits, aftermarket spoilers, fender flares, carbon-fiber hoods, etc., coming out for the CL? I've seen the Wings West kit for the TL and I think it is tight! Give me an update fellas! Oh yeah, anybody know about a supercharger kit for the CL?
Peace</font>
Whattup Fellas,
When are are exterior mods such as body kits, aftermarket spoilers, fender flares, carbon-fiber hoods, etc., coming out for the CL? I've seen the Wings West kit for the TL and I think it is tight! Give me an update fellas! Oh yeah, anybody know about a supercharger kit for the CL?
Peace</font>
But, I'm sure if someone has enough money, anything is possible...But for now the only ways are to mold the '98+ Accord Coupe kit or use universal parts (flares, spoilers, etc.).
Patrick
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05-27-2001, 10:00 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ogolden1:
APPROXIMATE COST PER HORSEPOWER GAIN:
1)CAI - $180/average 6hp gain = $30/HP
2)PCM mod - $250/average 10hp gain = $25/HP
3)Headers - $1300[m&l]/ 27hp gain = $48/HP
4)Supercharger - $4,500/50hp gain = $90/HP
PCM mod is ACTUALLY the LOWEST cost per HP!
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APPROXIMATE COST PER HORSEPOWER GAIN:
1)CAI - $180/average 6hp gain = $30/HP
2)PCM mod - $250/average 10hp gain = $25/HP
3)Headers - $1300[m&l]/ 27hp gain = $48/HP
4)Supercharger - $4,500/50hp gain = $90/HP
PCM mod is ACTUALLY the LOWEST cost per HP!
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Wow, that's pretty impressive for a PCM Mod. 10HP? Was that dyno proven? Was that with I/H/E? I would agree with caddy that on a forced induction car, a PCM mod maybe the best bang-for-the-buck (ie Audi A4/S4)
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05-27-2001, 11:33 PM
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My Sources tell me 5/6 for PCM Tops--and most he has experienced has been in the 4-5 HP for the PCM Mod, but I'm just telling you what I've been told. Set us straight with DYNO Charts and More proof that this mod will actually deliver this much HP.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ogolden1:
APPROXIMATE COST PER HORSEPOWER GAIN:
1)CAI - $180/average 6hp gain = $30/HP
2)PCM mod - $250/average 10hp gain = $25/HP
3)Headers - $1300[m&l]/ 27hp gain = $48/HP
4)Supercharger - $4,500/50hp gain = $90/HP
PCM mod is ACTUALLY the LOWEST cost per HP!
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APPROXIMATE COST PER HORSEPOWER GAIN:
1)CAI - $180/average 6hp gain = $30/HP
2)PCM mod - $250/average 10hp gain = $25/HP
3)Headers - $1300[m&l]/ 27hp gain = $48/HP
4)Supercharger - $4,500/50hp gain = $90/HP
PCM mod is ACTUALLY the LOWEST cost per HP!
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05-27-2001, 11:41 PM
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Xephyr has CAI listed as 9 HP not 6 as you have it. Where did you get your #'s ?
http://xephyrperformance.com/products1.htm
http://xephyrperformance.com/products1.htm
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ogolden1:
APPROXIMATE COST PER HORSEPOWER GAIN:
1)CAI - $180/average 6hp gain = $30/HP
2)PCM mod - $250/average 10hp gain = $25/HP
3)Headers - $1300[m&l]/ 27hp gain = $48/HP
4)Supercharger - $4,500/50hp gain = $90/HP
PCM mod is ACTUALLY the LOWEST cost per HP!
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APPROXIMATE COST PER HORSEPOWER GAIN:
1)CAI - $180/average 6hp gain = $30/HP
2)PCM mod - $250/average 10hp gain = $25/HP
3)Headers - $1300[m&l]/ 27hp gain = $48/HP
4)Supercharger - $4,500/50hp gain = $90/HP
PCM mod is ACTUALLY the LOWEST cost per HP!
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05-28-2001, 12:03 AM
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There is no dyno from Jet for our car, although I have seen dynos for the Vigor and a V6 Accord -minimum 8~9 HP thru the entire mid to upper RPM range! With our dual-stage induction and high compression engines with hi-flow exhaust, 10 HP is conservative! An AUDI A6 N/A gets ~16HP, A twin turbo A6 2.7T can get around 45-50+ HP increase. - Check out a search on Audi performance! Go to www.goapr.com - clink on "select products", check out the "chips", enter the A6 2.7T, and check out the dyno! Also, check out the S4 with a Stage II - almost 100HP gain!
Also check out the Honda Prelude numbers at this link: www.superchips.com 10hp to 19hp gain in a much smaller 2.2 V-TEC engine!(CAI&chip)
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[This message has been edited by Ogolden1 (edited 05-27-2001).]
Also check out the Honda Prelude numbers at this link: www.superchips.com 10hp to 19hp gain in a much smaller 2.2 V-TEC engine!(CAI&chip)
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So. Cal.
Dark Tint
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Forged Aluminum Wheels
235/40/18 Sumo HTRZ II's
Jet Performance PCM Mod
Ram-Air CAI w/ K&N Filter
Removed Pre-muffler
Liquid Glass Finish
G-tech 0-60 in 6.1 secs
...Looks & feels faster!
[This message has been edited by Ogolden1 (edited 05-27-2001).]
05-28-2001, 12:54 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by caddy:
Xephyr has CAI listed as 9 HP not 6 as you have it. Where did you get your #'s ? Did you notice that I said "AVERAGE" =
...I was being conservative on ALL the HP#'s!
BTW: Xephyr says: 5-10 HP* increase right on the front page! ...Even if it IS 9hp at $200 + S/H you're at $220.00! ...divided by 9hp=
~$24.50 per HP!
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235/40/18 Sumo HTRZ II's
Jet Performance PCM Mod
Ram-Air CAI w/ K&N Filter
Removed Pre-muffler
Liquid Glass Finish
G-tech 0-60 in 6.1 secs
...Looks & feels faster!
Xephyr has CAI listed as 9 HP not 6 as you have it. Where did you get your #'s ? Did you notice that I said "AVERAGE" =
...I was being conservative on ALL the HP#'s!
BTW: Xephyr says: 5-10 HP* increase right on the front page! ...Even if it IS 9hp at $200 + S/H you're at $220.00! ...divided by 9hp=
~$24.50 per HP!
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So. Cal.
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235/40/18 Sumo HTRZ II's
Jet Performance PCM Mod
Ram-Air CAI w/ K&N Filter
Removed Pre-muffler
Liquid Glass Finish
G-tech 0-60 in 6.1 secs
...Looks & feels faster!
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Thanks for the Info. I don't doubt you. I just want the facts
[quote]<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ogolden1:
[quote]<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ogolden1:
Originally posted by caddy:
Xephyr has CAI listed as 9 HP not 6 as you have it. Where did you get your #'s ? Did you notice that I said "AVERAGE" =
...I was being conservative on ALL the HP#'s!
BTW: Xephyr says: 5-10 HP* increase right on the front page! ...Even if it IS 9hp at $200 + S/H you're at $220.00! ...divided by 9hp=
~$24.50 per HP!
Xephyr has CAI listed as 9 HP not 6 as you have it. Where did you get your #'s ? Did you notice that I said "AVERAGE" =
...I was being conservative on ALL the HP#'s!
BTW: Xephyr says: 5-10 HP* increase right on the front page! ...Even if it IS 9hp at $200 + S/H you're at $220.00! ...divided by 9hp=
~$24.50 per HP!
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05-28-2001, 01:39 AM
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Generally, you can get a 13% to 17% HP increase with a CAI & chip combo in a 3 liter N/A engine.
So, 260HP X 15% [average] = 39hp gain (at flywheel) is ~ 300HP
At wheels: 191HP (stock dynos I've seen)
X 15% is ~ 29 HP at the wheels!...That's a little more than the headers @ $1,300.00, for ~$500.00!!!
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So. Cal.
Dark Tint
18" Niche Bella 2-piece
Forged Aluminum Wheels
235/40/18 Sumo HTRZ II's
Jet Performance PCM Mod
Ram-Air CAI w/ K&N Filter
Removed Pre-muffler
Liquid Glass Finish
G-tech 0-60 in 6.1 secs
...Looks & feels faster!
[This message has been edited by Ogolden1 (edited 05-27-2001).]
So, 260HP X 15% [average] = 39hp gain (at flywheel) is ~ 300HP
At wheels: 191HP (stock dynos I've seen)
X 15% is ~ 29 HP at the wheels!...That's a little more than the headers @ $1,300.00, for ~$500.00!!!
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So. Cal.
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18" Niche Bella 2-piece
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235/40/18 Sumo HTRZ II's
Jet Performance PCM Mod
Ram-Air CAI w/ K&N Filter
Removed Pre-muffler
Liquid Glass Finish
G-tech 0-60 in 6.1 secs
...Looks & feels faster!
[This message has been edited by Ogolden1 (edited 05-27-2001).]
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