Questions for those with a 6 speed.
08-19-2005, 09:00 AM
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Questions for those with a 6 speed.
So I am curious if this is normal for all manual transmission vehicles, or if i have a problem with my car.
When i am in a gear, usuallly 1st or 2nd, and going fairly slow, and you let off the gas but stay in gear, is the car supposed to surge and do odd things with itself? Feels like it cant adjust to letting off the gas or something. If this is normal im sure you guys know what i am talking about. Its like, if you dont push in the clutch when letting off the gas, the car doesnt like it and it doesnt slow down smoothly but jerks.
When i am in a gear, usuallly 1st or 2nd, and going fairly slow, and you let off the gas but stay in gear, is the car supposed to surge and do odd things with itself? Feels like it cant adjust to letting off the gas or something. If this is normal im sure you guys know what i am talking about. Its like, if you dont push in the clutch when letting off the gas, the car doesnt like it and it doesnt slow down smoothly but jerks.
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It happens to me pretty regularly and is pretty annoying. At first i thought i just sucked at driving a manual, but now that i've gotten better it still happens regularly.. Glad i'm not the only one, i was gonna post on this soon.
08-19-2005, 09:19 AM
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yeah I know exactly what you're talking about...same thing happened on my previous car which was a 5-speed. If you completely let off the gas in first, your car will continue to jerk forward. You can actually get a car going without hitting the gas at all, you have to let off the clutch real slow but it works. (i've never done that with my CL)
08-19-2005, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MG2020
yeah I know exactly what you're talking about...same thing happened on my previous car which was a 5-speed. If you completely let off the gas in first, your car will continue to jerk forward. You can actually get a car going without hitting the gas at all, you have to let off the clutch real slow but it works. (i've never done that with my CL)
08-19-2005, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by zoltanh
No your talking about just letting the clutch up without gas, which is called shitty driving (or forgetting that your in gear), im talking about something totally diffrent.
All cars with manual transmissions surge when you let off the gas at low speed in gear. It's the nature of the beast...
08-19-2005, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NiteQwill
Actually that is not shitting driving. Learning to drive stick without gas is a technique that is learned on during basic race track instructions.
All cars with manual transmissions surge when you let off the gas at low speed in gear. It's the nature of the beast...
All cars with manual transmissions surge when you let off the gas at low speed in gear. It's the nature of the beast...
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08-19-2005, 10:34 AM
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An automatic smooth ride without driver involvement is why they created automatics. You are manually adjusting gears. If the car was smoothing out gear transitions for you, it would be called an automatic.
You might check out a Buick LaCrosse, they make smooth automatic transmissions.
You might check out a Buick LaCrosse, they make smooth automatic transmissions.
08-19-2005, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 123456SPEED
An automatic smooth ride without driver involvement is why they created automatics. You are manually adjusting gears. If the car was smoothing out gear transitions for you, it would be called an automatic.
You might check out a Buick LaCrosse, they make smooth automatic transmissions.
You might check out a Buick LaCrosse, they make smooth automatic transmissions.
08-19-2005, 11:15 AM
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It’s called compression braking and ALL manual tranny cars will do this.
When you let off the gas in any gear the engine rev’s will begin to slow and the tranny will “jerk” along with it as it matches the decreasing rev’s.
It’s much less noticeable in higher gears because of the ratio and makes for a great brake effect when slowing down without the brake pedal.
Saves a bit of gas too, so I’m told.
Shawn S
When you let off the gas in any gear the engine rev’s will begin to slow and the tranny will “jerk” along with it as it matches the decreasing rev’s.
It’s much less noticeable in higher gears because of the ratio and makes for a great brake effect when slowing down without the brake pedal.
Saves a bit of gas too, so I’m told.
Shawn S
08-19-2005, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Shawn S
It’s called compression braking and ALL manual tranny cars will do this.
When you let off the gas in any gear the engine rev’s will begin to slow and the tranny will “jerk” along with it as it matches the decreasing rev’s.
It’s much less noticeable in higher gears because of the ratio and makes for a great brake effect when slowing down without the brake pedal.
Saves a bit of gas too, so I’m told.
Shawn S
When you let off the gas in any gear the engine rev’s will begin to slow and the tranny will “jerk” along with it as it matches the decreasing rev’s.
It’s much less noticeable in higher gears because of the ratio and makes for a great brake effect when slowing down without the brake pedal.
Saves a bit of gas too, so I’m told.
Shawn S
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Originally Posted by zoltanh
So what causes manuals to do that? Is there something that can be changed/upgraded to minimize it?
When I first learned stick way back in the 80’s I thought it was the coolest thing, especially if you have a nice sounding exhaust.
Cruise through a parking lot and take it up near redline then take your foot off the gas.
You get a nice “burble” from the exhaust pipes as the car slows.
Sounds like SHIT on a 4 cylinder with a fart pipe though, but some people must think otherwise.
08-19-2005, 03:17 PM
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Heh, I drive a manual like once every three weeks and I've gotten that jerking feeling in a low gear...I already knew that the car was trying to match the revs up. Quite annoying though.
08-21-2005, 09:40 PM
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Nah, my mustang has much harsher driveline lash than my CL-S6.
If you want a smooth drivetrain get the automatic, a tq converter does a great job of making the transition from acceleration to coasting, but it also kills about 8% more hp too.
If you want a smooth drivetrain get the automatic, a tq converter does a great job of making the transition from acceleration to coasting, but it also kills about 8% more hp too.
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Originally Posted by Shawn S
It’s called compression braking and ALL manual tranny cars will do this.
When you let off the gas in any gear the engine rev’s will begin to slow and the tranny will “jerk” along with it as it matches the decreasing rev’s.
It’s much less noticeable in higher gears because of the ratio and makes for a great brake effect when slowing down without the brake pedal.
Saves a bit of gas too, so I’m told.
Shawn S
When you let off the gas in any gear the engine rev’s will begin to slow and the tranny will “jerk” along with it as it matches the decreasing rev’s.
It’s much less noticeable in higher gears because of the ratio and makes for a great brake effect when slowing down without the brake pedal.
Saves a bit of gas too, so I’m told.
Shawn S
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