Prototype V6 Headers could see the production line...

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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 12:02 PM
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Prototype V6 Headers could see the production line...

I emailed the owner of the Prototype racing and asked about the headers.. here is his reply:

The V6 headers were never put into production. The tooling is being sold to another manufacturer.

Joe

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>Subject: Question for seller -- Item #593321935
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:20:39 PDT
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>Hi,
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>If you are the owner of ProtoType Racing, Do you still have the Prototype V6 headers? If yes, are you interested in selling those headers too? 1
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 02:12 PM
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I've been waiting for other manufacturers to
make headers for CL-S. I think 1100 is way to
much. I think 750. would be reasonable but don't know how much longer I can hold out before biting the bullett!

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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 02:19 PM
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Yeah, I bet Comptech bought them so that they don't have any competition and they can jack up their prices.

-Ash
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Ashburner:
<STRONG>Yeah, I bet Comptech bought them so that they don't have any competition and they can jack up their prices.

-Ash</STRONG>
Guys, who gives a fuck? If you can afford a $30K car, then you can manage to drop a grand for 30hp!!!


AGREE?
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by TypeSKid:
<STRONG>

Guys, who gives a fuck? If you can afford a $30K car, then you can manage to drop a grand for 30hp!!!


AGREE?</STRONG>
Yeah, I agree we should be happy about getting ripped off. I hope other aftermarket companies decide to do the same to CL-S owners.
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 02:28 PM
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Rod:

they have a strong customer demand, and they have keyed into it. Its part of the FLEECING of America, partner... :p
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by TypeSKid:
<STRONG>Rod:

they have a strong customer demand, and they have keyed into it. Its part of the FLEECING of America, partner... :p </STRONG>
I know, I know...I'm just saying some competition in the market couldn't hurt prices and it'll just give us more options. Most of us probably could afford the headers, but don't really think they're worth that much. I'd like to have a choice when it comes to aftermarket parts instead of beign forced to use Comptech. I'd be much more willing to pay that much for headers that could be felt more at lower RPMs instead of having to be in 5K+ range. I'd even rather sacrifice a couple top-end HP for this.
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by TypeSKid:
<STRONG>

Guys, who gives a fuck? If you can afford a $30K car, then you can manage to drop a grand for 30hp!!!


AGREE?</STRONG>
No.

I don't pay too much for a part just "because". I will wait and either buy cheaper ones when available or do without headers.

-J
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 04:34 PM
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I don't necessarily agree with that, but the reason I am waiting is that I think the design of Comptech headers can be improved upon to improve the HP output.
Hopefully other manufacturers will do that.

Originally posted by TypeSKid:
<STRONG>

Guys, who gives a fuck? If you can afford a $30K car, then you can manage to drop a grand for 30hp!!!


AGREE?</STRONG>
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 05:23 PM
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You guys are hoping for too much... The truth is that the aftermarket manufacturuers see our CLS as a near luxury car. To that extent, the aftermarket makers aren't gonna divuldge into making us parts, no matter what you feel the demand is...They're not gonna treat us like the civic, integ or even seven owners. Only a few players will get into our car and even if they get into making us parts, they probably won't materialize until the next gen CL comes out. Why you ask? Figure Honda will throw a new engine into the CL in the next gen and also figure that honda will more than likely recycle our engine or at least some derivative into the next gen accords. Then you'll see more shit out for that accord and then you'll see stuff compatable with our CL's, albeit a bit late.
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 05:56 PM
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Well the prototype headers are the wrong headers if you want low end power... typically a 6-1 header is ALL about high rpm power. The CompTech design, 6-2-1 will probably give a broader power curve than a 6-1.
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:
<STRONG>I emailed the owner of the Prototype racing and asked about the headers.. here is his reply:

The V6 headers were never put into production. The tooling is being sold to another manufacturer.

Joe

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>Subject: Question for seller -- Item #593321935
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:20:39 PDT
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>Hi,
>
>If you are the owner of ProtoType Racing, Do you still have the Prototype V6 headers? If yes, are you interested in selling those headers too? 1</STRONG>
hey can you email back and ask if its ok if he tells us which company???warpspeed????hopefully and...
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by HellaWhat:
<STRONG>You guys are hoping for too much... The truth is that the aftermarket manufacturuers see our CLS as a near luxury car. To that extent, the aftermarket makers aren't gonna divuldge into making us parts, no matter what you feel the demand is...They're not gonna treat us like the civic, integ or even seven owners. Only a few players will get into our car and even if they get into making us parts, they probably won't materialize until the next gen CL comes out. Why you ask? Figure Honda will throw a new engine into the CL in the next gen and also figure that honda will more than likely recycle our engine or at least some derivative into the next gen accords. Then you'll see more shit out for that accord and then you'll see stuff compatable with our CL's, albeit a bit late.</STRONG>
that may be true NOW>>>BUT!,with the up coming 6speed and the accord coupe to fill the sport nitch left from the preludes demise our future is looking up ...
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by BNut:
<STRONG>Well the prototype headers are the wrong headers if you want low end power... typically a 6-1 header is ALL about high rpm power. The CompTech design, 6-2-1 will probably give a broader power curve than a 6-1.</STRONG>

True...

The 6 into 1 header would be nice for the manual folks. I changed my 4-cylinder from a 4-1 to a 4-2-1 and got almost the same power at 7K, and 10 more HP at 4500.

IMO -- Not the best for automatics
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 09:39 PM
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I'm not exactly sure how much more power people are looking to get from a set of headers. When you tell someone that the Comptech headers are giving nearly 30hp at the wheels they look at you like you're crazy. Man, headers for 4cyl cars usually give around 4-10hp max, if that.
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by JZ:
<STRONG>I'm not exactly sure how much more power people are looking to get from a set of headers. When you tell someone that the Comptech headers are giving nearly 30hp at the wheels they look at you like you're crazy. Man, headers for 4cyl cars usually give around 4-10hp max, if that.</STRONG>
It depends on the "engine". If your talking about a 4-cylinder engine with a 8500 redline and 12:1 compression with a cam that will barely run at 1200 rpm, your not talking "Sport Compact Car" anymore. They will make quite a difference...
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 11:10 PM
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Believe me,Comptech Header is really high quality made.I have only seen Greddy in the same level,not even DC sports,Hks or others.

While you are still waiting for other companies,a lot of us have already enjoyed driving a 290 hp CLS :p

JUST BUY IT!
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 11:45 PM
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Well said.
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Old Jul 20, 2001 | 11:59 PM
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Can anyone here confirm that the cL-S is being prepped for rally? I inquiered about products that level-10 had available for the cL-S. He said that level-10 and Hoinda R&D where prepping it for rally. This was his response in an email that was sent to me a couple of months back.? If so then I think the cL-S will have many performance parts in the upcoming months.
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Old Jul 21, 2001 | 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by SD_surfer:
<STRONG>Believe me,Comptech Header is really high quality made.I have only seen Greddy in the same level,not even DC sports,Hks or others.

While you are still waiting for other companies,a lot of us have already enjoyed driving a 290 hp CLS :p

JUST BUY IT!</STRONG>
You go Boy !!
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