Sorry to bitch, but the general membership is really pissing me off lately.
Every other thread is bitching and moaning about SOMETHING that you don’t like about the car.
I understand about the problems with the Tranny and that complaint is completely understandable.
Honda/Acura needs to address this issue more seriously.

I’m not saying I want this place to be a daily Sausage Party where we all blow smoke up each other’s ASSES, but come on.
You guys bitch about this and bitch about that and then wonder why the CL isn’t selling and our resale value is in the shitter.
Then we have new members who sign up and ask for opinions and everyone jumps in and says, “Buy a G35” or “Save for a 3-Series”.
It’s just getting ridiculous.

If you DON’T own an Acura, you’re still welcome here if you provide information or at the very least comic value.
If you’re just a HATER…PISS OFF !!!

I thought this was a place for ACURA and other car enthusiasts, not a Better Business Bureau complaint desk.

And don’t get me started on all the political bullshit in Ramblings.

OK…..RANT MODE OFF !!!!!!

Shawn S

 

 

Hey shawn, if it makes you feel better I wish I had a CLS6! I still love my car 12.5k miles later. Only real complaint I have is that I am afraid that my tranny will go while going fast and that I don't have more money to mod my baby (getting married is a bitch!).

 

dbaehaeh ShawnS, you have one of these this place is going to hell fast about every 8 months or so

 

I vote shawn to be the president of the Acura CLS


Preach on brotha, preach on.

 

Yea, I guess the pressure builds ever so slightly and then finally….. BOOM !!!!!

 

I'll agree to that, I think there are "one" too many Political/Religious threads in Ramblings.....usually posted by the same one or two people.

Is StonedCL still around? I don't think so, because all of Ramblings would be filled with the above topics (between him and the others).

I don't have a problem with it to a point, but come on folks.

 

I agreed with Shawn. Although I joined wihtin 1 year, but some of the threads is way off topic and Acura haters everywhere.

 

 

Shawn, the problem is you, among others who chime in here, have NOT been disappointed with this Acura product.

Most of us however have been very disappointed in this Acura product because our expectations were so high when we bought this vehicle. You live you learn I guess. However, sometimes misery loves company and thus this board is filled with some negative feedback.

Obviously, some people do it more than required, but its their perogative as it is your perogative to post a thread such as this. Personally, I just gave up complaining about this vehicle because I take as is, having completelly lowered my expectations and being happy as long as I get whereever it is I am going safely and in style in my type Slow.


All you LOVERS out there, I want to see what happens once shit starts going wrong with your 'wonderful' Acura.

 

It's just a car.. who gives a shit yeah it has some squeeks, blah, blah and yeah tranny might blow (got warranty)kinda scary.. Get real Folks...ALL cars have issues!!!!!!!Yes it's true!!!some more than others.. bottom line..no reason to drive your self nuts over it..@ least i don't, but it's nice to vent....

one more thing if you don't like the car get rid of it...That Simple!!
no excuses about $$$, or i'am in a lease..Get rid of it!!!
I'am planning on it...

 

oh jesus the IS300 boards are gonna love this shit.

The way I see it, this is the problem with the CL, and why people are dissatisfied now (independant of the tranny issues). When the CL was introduced, nothing could touch the value for the buck. Performance for your dollar was outrageous. The Supra had been discontinued, the Z had been discontinued, and the rx7. The only car that most would have considered a real bracket competitor at that point besides the CL was the BMW 330ci, and it was 10K+ more for a car with roughly the same acceleration etc. The IS300 auto stock just wasn't powerful enough for those that chose the CL. Many people looking for serious sports cars went with this powerful new 2 DR FWD platform because the ClS package was the best bang for the buck at the time.... I'm guessing most CL buyers here really deep down wanted a serious luxo sports car like the Z or the Supra, but nothing like this was available at the time, for the money.

Then other new cars were recently announced. The RX-8, the 350Z, G35, the 03' Accord V6 coupe, the WRX, IS300 manual, etc. These cars offered comparable if not better performance for the money, more after market support, and greater future modding potential. The CL was more or less a very good Jack of all trades, however it was a master of none. Acura's last ditch answer to this was the CLS 6MT. Really great car, but not enough press, and a little too late. With so many new powerful sports cars coming down the pipe, people were less willing to go for a FWD entry level luxo coupe despite it's very competitive stock performance. The tuner market was growing very fast at this point, and people were looking for future potential rather than stock performance.

Now here we are today. People see all these new fast , stylish competitors around that having serious modding potential and they are having buyer's remorse. Add to this the tranny issues on the 5AT CL's and you have people wanting something more. Maybe I speak for myself, because this is how I felt, and why I'm driving a 350Z today, but I'm just guessing that others feel this way too. I still think the CL is a hell of a car, and was and still is a great 'middle road', "couldn't get/ or not sure if I want a sports car or luxo touring sedan" type vehicle, but when it comes down to it, it does neither the luxo thing, nor the performance thing *extraordinarily* well. If you can decide which way you want to go, performance or luxury, there are many choices available for you now, unlike before.

This is why people are moving on and complaining and moving on IMO. Just my 2 cents. Flame away if you feel the urge...

Shawn, I still think your car is *TITS* so I hope you don't take this the wrong way.

 

100% correct

 

The way i see it, everyone hate acura because they make a very great car, for a good price. If i wanted to, i could have bought a BMW, like the rest of the nation. Or, i could have bought a IS 300, and have everyone with a civic or accord want to be like me. But, i wanted to be different .We have one of the most, if not, the most powerful front wheel drive car on the market. Plus, we can drive in the snow!!!! :P Belive it or not, it makes me proud to drive my car. I wouldn't give my car up for anything. NO Lexus, BMW(well, maybe the M5 BABY!) or maybe a $25000 Subaru with no leather.

Remember one thing, The 2001 type S s a brand new car. Of course there's gonna be some kinks. There is kinks with every car
out there. My friends 330ic, has to have the door realigined, the battery dies every 2 days, and some other shit. So, BMW's ain't perfect either. It's a car, it's guarantyed to break down here and there. There are thousands of moving parts on the car.

just my .02

 

:whocares:

Honestly, if you like the CL, post about it, if you dont, just go away...if you dont like the people that talk about it, then who cares, its an internet message board, is it realy going to affect your life in any way.....see these are the type of messages that i read but dont reply too, but its so rediculous, shawn, i think your a good guy and got a nice car and all, but who cares what other people think, honestly, the threads you dont care for or the people that you dont like, just forget about it, cause if it honestly makes you that angry to have to post a message about it, then you got a problem.

 

I must agree with Shawn S. 7500 miles and I am still problem free aside from the 5 minute fix on the sunroof rattle.

I also get a kick out of people who have lowered their cars, added urethane bushings and bigger rims and all of a sudden there are all these noise complaints (I wonder why?). Or they have added a major sound system with enough bass to lure a sand worm and then they have rattles. This goes for ANY car.

This car is a great deal, it goes fast and it handles great for a pretty damn heavy front-wheel drive car. All the talk of quarter mile times is getting old, this is a driving car not a sprinting car.

The transmission fiasco is a bummer but I have had a BMW and a Mitsubishi with less than reliable transmissions; not to mention a lot longer list of minor mechanical problems and noises than the Acura.

 

My CL is the shit.I Love my car.You want perfect,you have to pay for it,and you still might not get it.Enjoy what you have.Faulk the rest.

 

Not if you have the sub facing the front and not the back

This open display of maturity will not sit well in here, from my observations.

 

 

I think zeroday nailed it for the most part. the CLS/TLS is a great car with some flaws (1 major the rest very minor)

 

Agreed Shawn...

Lots of haters and complainers here lately.

 

Mine's been great. My only concern in how long the tranny lasts...

 

I have one question,what was the beer count when you made the initial post??

I typically start my diatribes by the tenth...

 

I agree with everything Shawn says, and would add my distaste for the "Kids" who put in their totally unsubstantiated BS.. The car does have some problems, and some other cars are getting a little closer in value (IMHO), but I feel the CL Type-S is still the leader in performance/comfort/cost.. I do not come onto this forum to hear about other cars, I want to hear about my car! YMMV

 

I have to totally agree with Shawn too. I have 27k miles on my CLS and only 1 problem so far that the car had to be taken to the dealer for. I had warped rotors about 5k miles back. Acura replaced them as well as gave me new brake pads for free! All done in 4 hours. Not a single complaint here.

I think people around here complain WAY too much. The car I drove before the CLS was a Dodge Interpid. God!! Talk about a car with problems - Dropped a cylinder 3 times!!!, headlight switch went on fire, water pump died, fuel pump died, transmission died, radio died, auto climate control died... the list goes on and on. Talk about driving a car somewhere and being scared you wouldn't be able to make it back.

Cars are wear items. They break at times. Deal with it. The only issue that has me a little scared is the tranny, but at least they gave us an extended warranty, and so far no problems (knocking on wood).

Let's all chill. For the $$ we spent, we got a great car - Powerful, good looking (IMO), comfortable ride, quiet, great features, and overally fairly reliable (drive a domestic to see what I mean). Is it the best on the market? No. But for what I spent, I can't think of anything else I would rather have overall.

 

I agree on the political threads, i do get sucked into them but politics will kill friendships if you don't agree. I'm gonna try and stay away from them and stick to cars so i have some friends left here

 

Shawn, I agree w/ u 100%. I actually made a similar anti-rant thread this past summer and was basically told "deal w/ it." I guess Shawn gets more respect! lol But seriously guys, stop bitching!

 

I'm with Shawn. I love my CL-S. Sure I've had problems-rotors and the sun roof, but Continental Acura has always taken great care in getting it fixed right and given me a TL-P loaner to boot. And I didn't even buy my car there.

To me that's one of the reason's I love Acura's-the customer care I've received. When my wife takes her TT in for service, Laurel Audi gives her a POS 4 banger rent a car. This has been one reason I've stayed away from Audi.

 

is it a POS 4 banger A4??

 

I juz wanna say that I love my CL!!

It's the best purchase I eva made. I mean what more could you get for the price of the CL.

Ima keep driving my ride w/ pride.

 

I still my CLS and I'm quite happy with it's performance and overall value.

I still haven't seen a new car out there that I'd rather have for about the same $$$$.



... and I own page 3...

 

lol cute cartoon

yea i sux to all these people complaining about the cl. I think they just have buyers remorse over not buying a 330, and now are voicing their frustration. fuk people, a car is a mechanical object, and it WILL break, its just a matter of time. granted, some people have had a LOT of bad luck. Shit my tranny has blown, that doesnt mean ALL acuras suck. So please, if you have decided you have had enough of the cl, and are going to sell it, just stfu about it...I feel for your loss, but really I DONT CARE.

How many people think a 330ci will be easier to maintain than the cl after the initial warranty period.

 

:ghey:

 

hahahaha.. I was going to say the same thing.

I remember a VERY similar post by Shawn a while back

 

shawn, i somewhat agree...

although this board isnt about just praising the car, its about discussing it thouroughly...both negative and positive points.

i think that you would not be using the tone that your using, if u went through 3 trannsmissions, actuator, rotor, etcetcetcetc problems...

i dont think you would be a happy camper if you had to take your car ONCE A MONTH to acura for problems, and drive a POS loaner for 4 days out of EVERY MONTH.

Maybe you have your car paid off, though some poeple are WORKING hard just to pay for their car, and when your stuck with all these problems, and driving a loaner half the time...it doesnt feel good...lots of young guys here work and spend most their pay checks on their lease/finance...

You should be more considerate to the people that ARE having problems, and comfort them, instead of telling them them shut up, and not bitch so much.

Its a forum that involves honesty, and if we are going to blindfold ourselves and just believe that "MY CAR IS THE BEST NO MATTER WHAT" we would be no different from the KIDS on the civic forums that talk shit.

I think its good that we are keepin it real, saying things how it is.

I have 80 000 km of experience with the cl-s, and if someone had 32k U.S. to spend on a NEW car, i would tell them to look elsewhere, because thats what i have learnt from my experience. If we dont live and learn, we dont grow. And Honda wont fix the problems if sales stay consistant. They need to see a loss to realize that their putting out a product that may leave the customer dissatisfied.

I am very happy for you people that have no troubles with your cars, but it is selfish to tell others that own the same car, that cannot enjoy it as much as you do...to shut up.

you cannot flame acura BUYERS for not being satisfied, Honda is responsible for the problems, not us, the consumers.

 

I be damned. I agree with Amir 100%.

 

Love my CL S, but next...Its an M3. The next logical step till I can swing a Carrea.

 

ok...

 

but when it comes down to it, it does neither the luxo thing, nor the performance thing *extraordinarily* well.


Doesn't the Z fall into this exact same category?




Interior is MUCH worse than the CL-S, and the performance ain't nothing to brag about........