About the aftercooler, how does it cool compared to an intercooler?

Also what about the Icebox that I've been hearing about, wht is it exactly? Is that CT way of saying intercooler?

Juker008

 

Juker008,

An aftercooler and intercooler are pretty much the same thing. An aftercooler is generally used for superchargered cars and goes between the supercharger and the throttlebody. An intercooler is usually associated with turbocharging, but does the same thing.

The Comptech IceBox is their cold-air intake for the cars. Basically it is a box that looks like the stock one in the car that pulls cold air in from the fender without the risk of pulling water into the engine.

How's that?

Thanks
Dean

 

Does anyone have any info on how our lock up torque-converter makes a difference in regards to regaining some of that drive train loss? I would think that after our torque converter locks up, the drive train loss should be similar to that of the 6-speed? Where else does our slushy box lose power? Can someone enlighten me on this subject? thanks

 

You lose a lot of power pumping oil through the unit. A manual doesn't have the oil being pumped around.

The lockup torque converter just "locks up the converter" The reason is they aren't 100% efficient (usually 10 turns on the input, gives only 9 turns on the output). So, it just helps with the fuel economy issue (lowers the revs by 10%).

It doesn't help with the horsepower issue though.

 

I dont understand how the torque converter can "lock up" but then still be inefficient. Shouldnt "Locking up" sync the two turbines in the torque converter so that 10 turns on the input gives 10 turns on the output? Or is it geared such that even when it is locked up, it still produces fewer turns on the output?

We need SMG

 

niiiice

 

nice wheels!

 

i am fuckin happy i got the 6spd!!man i love this car...and with the sc who needs an M3? I am buying this biacth!!!

 

and those OZ are supposed be real light weight..this guy put em on his rx 7 and he said it felt quicker off the line! i might get them on y silver cl..wat do u think?

 

No you're right. Once it lock's up, it is 10 in 10 out and basically is no longer part of the issue (except for the horsepower to spin a disc filled full of fluid). So, even if the converter is locked, you still need a ponies just to overcome the rotational mass of the converter.

That's why guys with standards will toss in aluminum flywheels (to replace the steel ones). I don't remember the numbers, but the HP to spin it increased by the square of the weight (or something like that).

Same reason why fancy large diameter wheels don't make the car run faster on a track (even though they have lower profile tires).

It's weird shit. :P

 

Do any kinda of modifications need to be made to that manual tranny to accomodate the added hp?? What's the hp at the crank -- factoring back from 310 whp, i'm calculating approx. 356 hp...

What does the S/C from comptech do to the warranty?

 

I dumped a S/C onto my 2000 Chevy Silverado, and I was wondering about the warranty as well.

The guys I bought it from had dealers sending them Grand Prix GT's (not the GTP), and they wanted S/C's installed (because the GT version just wasn't selling, but the GTP was). They called GM, and first call GM guys said it voided all warranty. The S/C guys wanted that in writing (because it voids SEMA issues). GM backed down and said, well, if the car burns up a piston, then we won't cover it, but everything else is covered.

I realize it's a little different situation, since GM produced an almost identical car, with the S/C setup.

Of course, if you're willing to dumped $4k on a S/C setup, you're probably not too concerned about warranty!

The only downfall of the S/C setup is you'll lose the nice burble from the exhuast. Of course, you get that sweet ass scream from under the hood to make up for it!

 

it better be more than 356. If the s/c + mods can add ~95 WHP to the 6 sp, it better add more than 96 to the crank...

 

What will the SC do for the autos 4th gear, just curious because it's a bit sluggish now. How does it affect gearing and speed ?

 

Basically if the charger works the same as the s2000's charger you will not get maximum power till higher rpm's. Pretty much works the same as the headers, eventhough you would think a supercharger should give you that low end...

Paul

 

They are different chargers.....s2k=centerfiugal and CLS=roots.

 

Does that S/C CL-S belong to anyone? Or did Comptech just get a donation from Acura? If that belongs to someone, maybe he is a member of this forum.

 

that looks like comptech's garage to me, so i'm assuming it's comptech's project cl (they also have a red one, but that one is equipped with the auto tranny)

 

All what I can say, the SC is first class material. worthy of Mclerain Nameplate!

I like a lot. I think the only feasible CT SC application would the on 6-Speed only.
With Headers and SC it's adding some 70 WHP. Assuming the a dyno of 310 WHP, and 15% loss, we are at 365 HP. That is C5 teritorry. I expect with slick that CT SC 6-speed would do low 13s or even HI 12s runs!
All what I am concerned about is the drivability (Torque Steer and understeer!!).

This is what I am looking for SMG 6-speed AWD and 300+ HP... The candidate so far is the next S4!.

Drive Safely and Enjoy guys your new toy!

 

Does the cool sticker come with the s/c?

 

SUPERLEGGERA
17 " 7 " 15.2 lb 45 mm $342 msrp
17 " 8 " 15.4 lb 48 mm $350 msrp
18 " 7 " 16.5 lb 45 mm $440 msrp
18 " 8 " 18.0 lb 45 mm $440 msrp

Hey rondog, What do you think?



The Centerline Forged (RPM Wheel) is much lighter



RPM Weights
17" 13.51 lbs
18" 14.51 lbs
19" 15 lbs

RPM (4 & 5 Lug)
418 - Black Pearl
420 - Silver
421 - White
422 - Polished

 

The owner of the car is American Honda. They loaned the car to Comptech so they can work their magic. Once complete, I understand that American Honda will use it for touring and races as marketing material.

 

Hey wouldya look at that, it's the CLS I've always wanted. Aegean Blue, nice rims, and everything.

Torque steer might be harsh but so what. I'd love to have an '03 6speed putting over 300hp to the ground.

 

Low 13s maybe, but not in the 12s unless they REALLY tweak it and do all the tricks with tire pressure, etc, that just aren't feasible in a real street race. But at least it'd be better competition for my friend's modded C70 than my stock auto CLS.

 

there you go Synth19, the solution to your slowness woes. Still won't be able to hang with a 911TT or Supra, but maybe it won't be as embarrassing......

 

I LIKE !!!!!!!

 

Yes they are lighter, but they don't fit our cars!!!!!!!
Centerline is making those rimswith a 40 offset, so NO WAY will they fit on our cars. From what they told me, they had no plans to go with a bigger offset because they is not enough cars with high offsets. They are targeting all the small cars like civics, sentras, eclipses, etc etc.

I wish they did though, those wheels are soooooo light. I picked up the 19" wheel, and I about pooped my pants. 15 fricken pounds!!!!!!! Oh well.

 

what happened with getting the warranty issues in writing?

 

Yea I agree whats up with that. I guess we are all distracted my the eye candy and are not keeping our minds set on covering our own asses.

Juker008

 

You guys are NEVER going to see something in writing from Comptech OR your dealer.
That would be like giving you a “Get out of jail FREE” card to beat the living SHIT out of the car and they will pay for anything that breaks.
Sorry to be so pessimistic, but I think that’s the case here.

I think your best bet is to try and find a performance orientated dealer like Park Ave Acura and have them install it for you.

I’d love to hear Wayne’s opinion on this, but he doesn’t seem to post here anymore.

Shawn S

 

If we can't get Wayne to post here, how about someone local to PAA give em' a call and talk to him???

 

It should be looked at like this, if you burn a hole in a piston with the blower on you will be expected to cover it. If your wind shield wipers stop working, it will be covered.

Comptech is not going to put out a kit that WILL damage the motor. They have a great reputation and would not want to tarnish it. But things can happen which are unforeseen. These engines are durable and nothing should happen, but there is always a risk.

But regardless, by making more power you are shortening the life of the motor...

 

Correct.

I just remember reading stories here of dealers that flipped out when they saw “minor” mods like CAI’s or Springs.
I can only imagine what some of the “prick” dealers will say when they pop the hood and see that shiny blower bolted on there.

If the CD player jams or the seat motor goes YES it will get fixed.
But if it’s anything under the hood that can be blamed on the blower, I’m sure they will.

Shawn S

 

...now if someone would only come out with a Sema kit..that plus the SC would make one bad ass CL...

 

Damn that looks awesome. Can't wait to hear the stories once its finally released. Looking forward to seeing an actual dyno from the 6MT and 5AT released by Comptech.

 

Can't wait to see the actual dyno graph.

 

bobowah has had them on his CL for awhile now.

 

hello all.

I signed up for the board a while ago, because I almost bought a black CL-s. Hence the stupid nick name. Im interested in this supercharged six speed CL. Looks very nice. Is there a comptech website where I can look up any of the info you guys are throwing around?

By the way. Torque steer with an LSD is going to be pretty bad. I drive a supercharged sho, (370FWHP), and when under boost, the car becomes very violent. I would not recommend a mod like this for the faint of heart.

 

"LSD"

http://www.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm

 

comptech's website is www.comptechusa.com

your sho sounds nice, do you have any pics/videos? peace.