One of us MADE IT INTO C&D!!
02-07-2001 | 10:12 PM
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Burning Brakes
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From: The Scenic Sovereign Garden State. Joyzee
One of us MADE IT INTO C&D!!
Bill Cuomo! Come on, speak up. Take a bow. Because you my friend (he's got to know but so what) have made it into Car & Driver!
Great letter and thanks for mentioning 260.com. Follows below is his letter.
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"01" CL Type-S
•White\Black
•Comptech Springs
•Comptech Sways
•Navigation System
•Burlwood Shifter
•Guards+Fenderwell Trim
•Smokers Package
--> My Car
Great letter and thanks for mentioning 260.com. Follows below is his letter.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">SO GOOD ITS BLAND
Okay, I think I've got it. "The Type S," you write, "is so undeniably good, so well-produced, so good at the process of being what it is supposed to be that it has left us utterly unmoved" ["Acura 3.2CL," December 2000]. So, you want something less good? As an owner of a Type S, I have to take issue since I have owned three Porsches, two BMWs, two SHOs, one Supra, two LSC Mk VlIs, one Mustang GT, one Cobra, and numerous other vehicles and have dealt with the realities of everyday driving in each of these. Yes, the Acura is a front-driver, and yes, it has no manual, but it is an absolute joy to drive and is definitely fun "at the limit" and leaves me feeling "moved," albeit in a less coarse or flashy manner than you at CID would apparently like. Call it the difference between chrome and platinum. It has personality, which Japanese cars have heretofore been without, in my book. So sue me.
Many of the enthusiastic owners at our forum (260hp.com) report 0-to-60 times of six seconds or under with only the addition of aftermarket headers, and eating BMWs for lunch on a daily basis. Want stiffer? Go with springs and heavier antiroll bars. Want faster? Go with headers and a K & N.
BILL CUOMO via the Internet Nashville, Tennessee
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Okay, I think I've got it. "The Type S," you write, "is so undeniably good, so well-produced, so good at the process of being what it is supposed to be that it has left us utterly unmoved" ["Acura 3.2CL," December 2000]. So, you want something less good? As an owner of a Type S, I have to take issue since I have owned three Porsches, two BMWs, two SHOs, one Supra, two LSC Mk VlIs, one Mustang GT, one Cobra, and numerous other vehicles and have dealt with the realities of everyday driving in each of these. Yes, the Acura is a front-driver, and yes, it has no manual, but it is an absolute joy to drive and is definitely fun "at the limit" and leaves me feeling "moved," albeit in a less coarse or flashy manner than you at CID would apparently like. Call it the difference between chrome and platinum. It has personality, which Japanese cars have heretofore been without, in my book. So sue me.
Many of the enthusiastic owners at our forum (260hp.com) report 0-to-60 times of six seconds or under with only the addition of aftermarket headers, and eating BMWs for lunch on a daily basis. Want stiffer? Go with springs and heavier antiroll bars. Want faster? Go with headers and a K & N.
BILL CUOMO via the Internet Nashville, Tennessee
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"01" CL Type-S
•White\Black
•Comptech Springs
•Comptech Sways
•Navigation System
•Burlwood Shifter
•Guards+Fenderwell Trim
•Smokers Package
--> My Car
02-07-2001 | 10:16 PM
#2
Cajun Gumbo Man
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Posts: 3,378
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From: California
BRAVO ! Thanks so much for setting the record straight.
"Let's continue to eat BMW's" !
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2001 CL Type S Black/Ebony w/NAVI, PIAA bulbs, Tinted windows, JL Sub-woofer/Fosgate 250 watt amp, otherwise pure stock
1998 Accord Coupe EX-V6
Black Currant Pearl, PIAA bulbs, tinted windows, Fosgate 500 watt amp, Eclipes 6X9's,JL Sub-woofer, otherwise PURE stock !
"Let's continue to eat BMW's" !
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2001 CL Type S Black/Ebony w/NAVI, PIAA bulbs, Tinted windows, JL Sub-woofer/Fosgate 250 watt amp, otherwise pure stock
1998 Accord Coupe EX-V6
Black Currant Pearl, PIAA bulbs, tinted windows, Fosgate 500 watt amp, Eclipes 6X9's,JL Sub-woofer, otherwise PURE stock !
02-07-2001 | 10:24 PM
#3
Number 37
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From: Scottsdale AZ
I'm pretty sure that if you check the posts a few days back someone already claimed responsibility. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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Please have a crane drop on my car so I have to buy a new CL-S. But wait till I'm not in the car. Thanks
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Please have a crane drop on my car so I have to buy a new CL-S. But wait till I'm not in the car. Thanks
02-07-2001 | 10:29 PM
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From: MD
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nootch:
I'm pretty sure that if you check the posts a few days back someone already claimed responsibility. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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I'm pretty sure that if you check the posts a few days back someone already claimed responsibility. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">three Porsches, two BMWs, two SHOs, one Supra, two LSC Mk VlIs, one Mustang GT, one Cobra</font>
thread was here:
http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001078.html
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2001 Acura CL Type S, black/ebony, spoiler, 35% tint, V1
goldn1
[This message has been edited by goldn1 (edited 02-07-2001).]
02-07-2001 | 10:33 PM
#5
Team Owner
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From: Hellertown, Pa. USA
It was: bc01cls
Shawn S
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Speed limits are for CARS and DRIVERS whose limits are easily exceeded !!!!!
2001 CL Type S - NAV - San Marino RED / Parchment - Spoiler - 35% Tint - Roof Visor - PIAA Lamps
GOLD Emblems & Grill - V1 w/remote - KICKER ZR-360 w/(2) 10" Alumapro Subs - Shine by ZAINO
For Pictures see: PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 3 PAGE 4 V1 & SUBS
Shawn S
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Speed limits are for CARS and DRIVERS whose limits are easily exceeded !!!!!
2001 CL Type S - NAV - San Marino RED / Parchment - Spoiler - 35% Tint - Roof Visor - PIAA Lamps
GOLD Emblems & Grill - V1 w/remote - KICKER ZR-360 w/(2) 10" Alumapro Subs - Shine by ZAINO
For Pictures see: PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 3 PAGE 4 V1 & SUBS
02-07-2001 | 10:34 PM
#6
Instructor
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From: Wallington...NJ...Sometimes in NYC...Working...
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nootch:
I'm pretty sure that if you check the posts a few days back someone already claimed responsibility. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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I'm pretty sure that if you check the posts a few days back someone already claimed responsibility. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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02-07-2001 | 10:38 PM
#7
The Creator
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From: Albany, NY
heh heh heh...
thanks BC for sendin that in... my C&D hasnt arrived yet.
you are the man!!!!
And Al thanks for posting that!
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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit
thanks BC for sendin that in... my C&D hasnt arrived yet.
you are the man!!!!
And Al thanks for posting that!
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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit
Trending Topics
02-08-2001 | 12:11 AM
#9
Team Owner
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From: Hellertown, Pa. USA
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AcurA Crazy:
I bet we will have BMW owners come in here and talk some shit now...BRING IT ON!
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I bet we will have BMW owners come in here and talk some shit now...BRING IT ON!
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BMW OWNERS 
Shawn S
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Speed limits are for CARS and DRIVERS whose limits are easily exceeded !!!!!
2001 CL Type S - NAV - San Marino RED / Parchment - Spoiler - 35% Tint - Roof Visor - PIAA Lamps
GOLD Emblems & Grill - V1 w/remote - KICKER ZR-360 w/(2) 10" Alumapro Subs - Shine by ZAINO
For Pictures see: PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 3 PAGE 4 V1 & SUBS
02-08-2001 | 12:13 AM
#10
Number 37
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From: Scottsdale AZ
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn S:
I hope Tom doesn’t see this.
BMW OWNERS
Shawn S
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I hope Tom doesn’t see this.
BMW OWNERS Shawn S
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LOL
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Please have a crane drop on my car so I have to buy a new CL-S. But wait till I'm not in the car. Thanks
02-08-2001 | 12:32 AM
#11
Team Owner
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From: Hellertown, Pa. USA
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nootch:
Shawn, your uncanny ability to add something funny to the conversation is amazing!!!
LOL
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LOL
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Thanks, I TRY....
Shawn S
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Speed limits are for CARS and DRIVERS whose limits are easily exceeded !!!!!
2001 CL Type S - NAV - San Marino RED / Parchment - Spoiler - 35% Tint - Roof Visor - PIAA Lamps
GOLD Emblems & Grill - V1 w/remote - KICKER ZR-360 w/(2) 10" Alumapro Subs - Shine by ZAINO
For Pictures see: PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 3 PAGE 4 V1 & SUBS
02-08-2001 | 01:04 AM
#13
FvCK KNvCKLE
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From: Detroit, MI.
Shawn, your graphics are "the whip!"
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It's a small world. So you gotta use your elbows a lot!
01 Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
Navigation-Spoiler-Muds-Wheel locks-35% Tint-PIAA wedges-V1 and remote
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It's a small world. So you gotta use your elbows a lot!
01 Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
Navigation-Spoiler-Muds-Wheel locks-35% Tint-PIAA wedges-V1 and remote
02-08-2001 | 10:53 AM
#14
Racer
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From: Middle TN
Guilty as charged ! Thanks guys, my pleasure to rip them a new one for the BS they wrote. Obviously they wouldn't know a good car if they drove it (unless it said "BMW") and none of the staffers at C&D even drives a BMW. One editor doesn't even drive!!!!!!!!
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CL-S PDG, TR Typhoon Wheels, Solaris 9005, guards, nose mask, V-1 & remote.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...493&p=31386570
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CL-S PDG, TR Typhoon Wheels, Solaris 9005, guards, nose mask, V-1 & remote.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...493&p=31386570
02-08-2001 | 11:19 AM
#15
Suzuka Master
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From: Northern VA
Oh hell yeah!!! our cars rule!!!! more publicity for our fourm whoo hooo.
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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Cargo Net/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
AEM CAI once they decide to make the dame thing.
235/40/17's or 225/45/17's once I found out which one works for me.
gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.
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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Cargo Net/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
AEM CAI once they decide to make the dame thing.
235/40/17's or 225/45/17's once I found out which one works for me.
gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.
02-08-2001 | 11:24 AM
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WAY TO GO!
Man, I can't believe they printed that. C&D....however good....tends to be a bit elitest. I seldom see any adversarial letter printed unless it has some stupid comeback from "Ed."
Again, thank you.
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Ken
'01 Satin Silver CL-P
Performance: Headers, K&N Drop-In, Comptech Springs/Sways, 17" Borbet T's & Eagle RS-A's.
Other: Flaps, X-Pel Clear Bra, Cannon Mats, Polarg Accent Bulbs, & Burlwood Shift Knob.
Stock GTech: 7.15
Current G-Tech: 6.46
Man, I can't believe they printed that. C&D....however good....tends to be a bit elitest. I seldom see any adversarial letter printed unless it has some stupid comeback from "Ed."
Again, thank you.
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Ken
'01 Satin Silver CL-P
Performance: Headers, K&N Drop-In, Comptech Springs/Sways, 17" Borbet T's & Eagle RS-A's.
Other: Flaps, X-Pel Clear Bra, Cannon Mats, Polarg Accent Bulbs, & Burlwood Shift Knob.
Stock GTech: 7.15
Current G-Tech: 6.46
02-08-2001 | 11:47 AM
#17
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AcurA Crazy:
I bet we will have BMW owners come in here and talk some shit now...BRING IT ON!
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I bet we will have BMW owners come in here and talk some shit now...BRING IT ON!
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1998 Iced Blue CL 3.0 ** Some mods, but who cares, I want a Type-S!!
Moderator - 1st Gen Forum
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02-08-2001 | 02:05 PM
#18
Someday pigs WILL fly!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn S:
I hope Tom doesn’t see this.
BMW OWNERS
Shawn S
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I hope Tom doesn’t see this.
BMW OWNERS Shawn S
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01 CL-S NightHawk Black/Ebony Bowling Ball Interior
02-08-2001 | 04:23 PM
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Burning Brakes
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From: The Scenic Sovereign Garden State. Joyzee
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Satin01CL:
WAY TO GO!
Man, I can't believe they printed that. C&D....however good....tends to be a bit elitest. I seldom see any adversarial letter printed unless it has some stupid comeback from "Ed."
Again, thank you.
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WAY TO GO!
Man, I can't believe they printed that. C&D....however good....tends to be a bit elitest. I seldom see any adversarial letter printed unless it has some stupid comeback from "Ed."
Again, thank you.
</font>
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"01" CL Type-S
¥White\Black
¥Comptech Springs
¥Comptech Sways
¥Navigation System
¥Burlwood Shifter
¥Guards+Fenderwell Trim
¥Smokers Package
--> My Car
02-08-2001 | 04:27 PM
#20
Pro
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From: San Francisco, CA
Just got my MT MArch issue through the mail yesterday and did anyone else notice that they clocked the 330xi at 5.8 sec for 0-60???? the car weighs 3540 lbs.. a little more than the stock CL-S.. albeit it has a manny.. but 225 hp and 214 ft-lbs of torque can carry that thing to 60 in under 6 seconds???? Any comments or info further on this from other people on this board would be helpful...
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2001 Satin silver CL-S
* no navi, spoiler, mudguards
* wheel locks, full front mask
* fenderwell and door trim
* soon Comptech springs and sways
* 5% tint rear side, back
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2001 Satin silver CL-S
* no navi, spoiler, mudguards
* wheel locks, full front mask
* fenderwell and door trim
* soon Comptech springs and sways
* 5% tint rear side, back
02-08-2001 | 04:42 PM
#21
Moderator Alumnus
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From: NY
lets get ready for the flying fists from the bimmer boys! gotta start being a nazi mod now if they start trouble!
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YuppieCL
'90 Accord LX
'01 3.2CL Type S
#6487, Satin Silver, Navi, Spoiler, Comptech springs, 35% Llumar window tint
PhotoPoint Pics!
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YuppieCL
'90 Accord LX
'01 3.2CL Type S
#6487, Satin Silver, Navi, Spoiler, Comptech springs, 35% Llumar window tint
PhotoPoint Pics!
02-08-2001 | 06:01 PM
#22
Three Wheelin'
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From: Phoenix, AZ
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by e1828:
Just got my MT MArch issue through the mail yesterday and did anyone else notice that they clocked the 330xi at 5.8 sec for 0-60???? the car weighs 3540 lbs.. a little more than the stock CL-S.. albeit it has a manny.. but 225 hp and 214 ft-lbs of torque can carry that thing to 60 in under 6 seconds???? Any comments or info further on this from other people on this board would be helpful...
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Just got my MT MArch issue through the mail yesterday and did anyone else notice that they clocked the 330xi at 5.8 sec for 0-60???? the car weighs 3540 lbs.. a little more than the stock CL-S.. albeit it has a manny.. but 225 hp and 214 ft-lbs of torque can carry that thing to 60 in under 6 seconds???? Any comments or info further on this from other people on this board would be helpful...
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I saw that too. The lighter 330I/330Ci have both been clocked at around 6.1-6.2 seconds so I'm a bit skeptical as well. You could make the argument that they're getting incredible traction with the 4WD, but you would think the extra weight would offset that enhancement. Plus, its MT... they always get the fastest times. They got 6.4 for us and no one else has so far. Hell, they got a stock TL to do 6.7 - that's even more unbelievable IMHO.
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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type S
Comptech Springs
Comptech Sway Bars
PIAA 19169
Comptech headers ordered 2/1/01
02-08-2001 | 08:07 PM
#23
Racer
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 444
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From: Middle TN
To Al Uminum...........Thanks, I was happy they were honest enough to print it. By the way, Mario never returns my calls, neither does Andrew. Now that I've enjoyed my "15 minutes of Warhol fame" maybe I'll hear back.......yeah sure!!
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CL-S PDG, TR Typhoon Wheels, Solaris 9005, guards, nose mask, V-1 & remote.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...493&p=31386570
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CL-S PDG, TR Typhoon Wheels, Solaris 9005, guards, nose mask, V-1 & remote.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...493&p=31386570
02-08-2001 | 08:16 PM
#24
Burning Brakes
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From: Washington DC
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Satin01CL:
WAY TO GO!
Man, I can't believe they printed that. C&D....however good....tends to be a bit elitest. I seldom see any adversarial letter printed unless it has some stupid comeback from "Ed."
Again, thank you.
</font>
WAY TO GO!
Man, I can't believe they printed that. C&D....however good....tends to be a bit elitest. I seldom see any adversarial letter printed unless it has some stupid comeback from "Ed."
Again, thank you.
</font>
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Silver CL-S w/ Navi, Spoiler, Wheel Locks, Trunk Tray, 19169, 9005
Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1-S Proxes on Stock 17" CL-S wheels
02-10-2001 | 09:34 PM
#25
Suzuka Master
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From: Santa Clarita, CA
Got my C&D in the mail today...
GoodStuff(TM)!:
"and eating BMWs for lunch.."
Flip over to the next page and you find a Bimmer ad (p.15)
525i
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- Kvit -
2001 CL-P Blue Sub 6
Polarg BlHybrid M-6 Road lamps
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...725&a=10358832
Club Events Moderator
GoodStuff(TM)!:
"and eating BMWs for lunch.."
Flip over to the next page and you find a Bimmer ad (p.15)
525i
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- Kvit -
2001 CL-P Blue Sub 6
Polarg BlHybrid M-6 Road lamps
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...725&a=10358832
Club Events Moderator
02-10-2001 | 10:19 PM
#26
Pro
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Posts: 606
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From: DC Area
Nice!!!! Congrats! About time one of these mags printed something about eiher the TL or CL. I've written to MT about my TL being modded and how I can take a Bimmer 330Ci and they actually replied! about 3 months ago. The letter said "...sure Comptech makes great aftermarket parts for Acura...(then yadi yadi yadi) but you should test drive a Dinan fitted 330Ci before you start thrashing the BMW line..." I was like WTF! I was going to reply but I knew what the answer was going to be...somewhere in the lines of "if your motor breaks due to your CT headers then you're screwed! If the 330Ci's motor breaks due to the Dinan parts BMW will still warranty it. All said and done my letter still didn't get printed...BASTARDS!!! 
about 3 months ago. The letter said "...sure Comptech makes great aftermarket parts for Acura...(then yadi yadi yadi) but you should test drive a Dinan fitted 330Ci before you start thrashing the BMW line..." I was like WTF! I was going to reply but I knew what the answer was going to be...somewhere in the lines of "if your motor breaks due to your CT headers then you're screwed! If the 330Ci's motor breaks due to the Dinan parts BMW will still warranty it. All said and done my letter still didn't get printed...BASTARDS!!!
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