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Old 11-20-2007, 12:05 PM
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Nitrous On A 2003 Cl-s6??

what do you guys think of a 50 shot of dry nitrous? any experience here?
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Not on my car, but I've seen & installed a 75HP ZEX kit on a CL & a TL. Very basic install. Very easy. The CL can handle a 75 shot with no problems.
The ZEX dry kit is very safe when installed right.
I don't like NOS just cause it a WOT only mod. Not really good for daily driving.
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im just wondering because I have the zex kit that runs off your tps, I believe its between 60-100 shot dry. so a 75 shot should be cool?
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75 shot ftw.

13.25 @ 106 in my auto.
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As long as your safe & not on the bottle at every light you should be ok. You may want to do a compression check on your engine & make sure things are in fine shape before you start. You don't want to mod a broken, or not running so well engine.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
As long as your safe & not on the bottle at every light you should be ok. You may want to do a compression check on your engine & make sure things are in fine shape before you start. You don't want to mod a broken, or not running so well engine.
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Originally Posted by mattg
75 shot ftw.

13.25 @ 106 in my auto.
whoa, impressive
Old 11-21-2007, 02:06 AM
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whoa, impressive
I heard you have to change plugs and retard timing 4 degrees for a 75 shot?
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All you have to run are colder plugs. And you can buy them from Zex. Even a 50 shot I'd get colder plugs.
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Nitrous Shopping List

Whats up guys. Ive pretty much made up my mind that I want to go with nitrous for now. I know the CT Blower would be better being a daily driver but I think nitrous will satisfy what I want for now. Ive been hardcore search the forum on nitrous thread and reading up about what I need.

From what Ive read and heard from personal experience the Zex's kit is the safest kit to go with. As for what else is needed to run safe....? I'm leaning towards the dry kit, Zex part # 82011.

Thanks to our best vendor on this site, Excelerate, he gave me some help knowledge. I still would like to hear what everyone else has to say. Excelerate set me up with a package with A/F gauge, the 82011 kit, a nitrous gauge and I believe plugs. What else do I need to get started. I know I can add a A/F controller later to tune it.


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zex is the way 2 go, thats what I put on my 6 speed cl
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
All you have to run are colder plugs. And you can buy them from Zex. Even a 50 shot I'd get colder plugs.
which plugs? do you know what heat range? is their a iridium that is colder?
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Contact them & give them the car info & what kit your putting on & they will send you the correct ones. Or give you the part #'s This is what my friends did when they ordered their kits.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Contact them & give them the car info & what kit your putting on & they will send you the correct ones. Or give you the part #'s This is what my friends did when they ordered their kits.
will do, thanks!
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i thought a wet shot was safer than a dry shot?!?
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i was told you cant go we on our motors
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Originally Posted by cl8trr
i was told you cant go we on our motors
Says who? I have a wet shot with the 2nd gen engine.
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Originally Posted by Tweek
Whats up guys. Ive pretty much made up my mind that I want to go with nitrous for now. I know the CT Blower would be better being a daily driver but I think nitrous will satisfy what I want for now. Ive been hardcore search the forum on nitrous thread and reading up about what I need.

From what Ive read and heard from personal experience the Zex's kit is the safest kit to go with. As for what else is needed to run safe....? I'm leaning towards the dry kit, Zex part # 82011.

Thanks to our best vendor on this site, Excelerate, he gave me some help knowledge. I still would like to hear what everyone else has to say. Excelerate set me up with a package with A/F gauge, the 82011 kit, a nitrous gauge and I believe plugs. What else do I need to get started. I know I can add a A/F controller later to tune it.


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Forget the nitrous gauge, and buy the bottle warmer. That, by far, was the best application for my nitrous.
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Who's telling you these false things?

You can go wet, install is just harder & more complex.


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now I need to do research! I was told dry was better and safer since fogger is out of the question
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Anyone have any personal experience with both? Im still leaning toward the dry kit more for the easy install and removal. Someone told me to not even waste my money on a dry kit but from what I read hear everyone says its just fine and will kick me in my ass lol.
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from my experience with dry kits they work very nice!
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Originally Posted by cl8trr
from my experience with dry kits they work very nice!
Can the stock fuel pump provide enough fuel for a 75 shot? Anything else I need to run safe with the nitrous. My list so far contains a/f guage, fuel pressure gauge, and ZEXs spark plugs. Eventually a bottle warmer and remote bottle opener.
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I'm seriously considering the Zex kit also, especially after reading that the auto. can run low 13's with a 75-shot, that's amazing. Nitrous seems to be the best for the power when I need it --- because honestly I don't shift above 3-4K RPM's unless I'm racing.
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what are the numbers on the 6 speed cl-s? I will find out personally on thursday night;p
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^let us know how it goes
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I am gonna try all three shot options with 75 being the largest, I will have timeslips and post them friday maybe sat.(thurs. if time allows) low 13s?WOW that sounds like a lot to ask 4 though, I am pretty consistent with my manual with my passes within 1/10sec. of each other,of course times vary with temperature. car sucks ass in the heat
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Originally Posted by cl8trr
I am gonna try all three shot options with 75 being the largest, I will have timeslips and post them friday maybe sat.(thurs. if time allows) low 13s?WOW that sounds like a lot to ask 4 though, I am pretty consistent with my manual with my passes within 1/10sec. of each other,of course times vary with temperature. car sucks ass in the heat
50 65 75 jets will be tried.. 100 is 2 large..
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Anyone have any personal experience with both? Im still leaning toward the dry kit more for the easy install and removal. Someone told me to not even waste my money on a dry kit but from what I read hear everyone says its just fine and will kick me in my ass lol.
u need a stand alone engine management system and probably bigger injectors to properly and safely run a dry shot. wet shot is safe/easier because it mixes the fuel with the nitrous thru the fogger, so u dont need to add more fuel thru the injectors. a dry shot is only nitrous, so u need to add extra fuel thru the injectors, which would require at least an air-fuel controller (like apexi v-afc or s-afc) at minimum. running a dry shot with nothing else on the stock ecu is just a ticking time bomb..

oh and as for a dry kit being so much easier to install, that not really true. the only thing extra to install a wet kit over dry, is that u have to tap into the fuel system somewhere, many people tap in either with a banjo fitting on the fuel filter, or tap right into the fuel line that goes from the filter to the fuel rail.
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Originally Posted by cl8trr
50 65 75 jets will be tried.. 100 is 2 large..
i know plenty of people who run 100-125 shots, even some 150's, all the time on STOCK honda 4cyl motors, so i dont see why these motors couldnt handle a 100 shot just fine.
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i know plenty of people who run 100-125 shots, even some 150's, all the time on STOCK honda 4cyl motors, so i dont see why these motors couldnt handle a 100 shot just fine.
a 150 shot on a 4 cyl? wtf!! are you ok? I wouldnt even put that on my k20r motor and thats a nice strong 4 cylinder block!
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^maybe U wouldnt do it. i've seen 100 + shot on 4cyl hondas too.

the reason being why people dont run them on our cars is because it is alot easier to fix a blown 4cyl honda motor than our j32's.
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[QUOTE=sinfulj32]^maybe U wouldnt do it. i've seen 100 + shot on 4cyl hondas too.

the reason being why people dont run them on our cars is because it is alot easier to fix a blown 4cyl honda motor than our j32's.[/Q 150 shot?wow
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150 shot on a 4??? wow... and thats all torque huh? on a stock 4....wow im speechless
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u need a stand alone engine management system and probably bigger injectors to properly and safely run a dry shot. wet shot is safe/easier because it mixes the fuel with the nitrous thru the fogger, so u dont need to add more fuel thru the injectors. a dry shot is only nitrous, so u need to add extra fuel thru the injectors, which would require at least an air-fuel controller (like apexi v-afc or s-afc) at minimum. running a dry shot with nothing else on the stock ecu is just a ticking time bomb..
You are misinformed. The ZEX kit has a little fuel management box you wire to the system. It provides enough fuel adjustment. There are no settings it's all automatic.

All you need are some colder plugs.

oh and as for a dry kit being so much easier to install, that not really true. the only thing extra to install a wet kit over dry, is that u have to tap into the fuel system somewhere, many people tap in either with a banjo fitting on the fuel filter, or tap right into the fuel line that goes from the filter to the fuel rail.
The ZEX kit is a complete system, see post above.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
You are misinformed. The ZEX kit has a little fuel management box you wire to the system. It provides enough fuel adjustment. There are no settings it's all automatic.

All you need are some colder plugs.



The ZEX kit is a complete system, see post above.
i bought the zex hyperformance plugs, cant wait till thursday!!
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ok so i think im going to get the zex dry 75 shot, colder plugs, better injectors, and install then retune my afc neo. does that sound correct/safe?
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ok so i think im going to get the zex dry 75 shot, colder plugs, better injectors, and install then retune my afc neo. does that sound correct/safe?
I dont think you have to do injectors, as long as your a/f ratios are cool you should be ok(if your gonna change injectors).
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Originally Posted by cl8trr
a 150 shot on a 4 cyl? wtf!! are you ok? I wouldnt even put that on my k20r motor and thats a nice strong 4 cylinder block!
yessir, my friend hit his stock internal k20a2 with 150 shot numerous times and never blew up..


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