immauser

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my fiancees father was driving my 2001 cl type s and he called me to tell me the car just broke down on him/??! it was driving fine and had no problems what so ever..... he said the orange "exlamation mark" just turned on and the car stopped running and he had to pull over on the freeway?! any ideas? its not the tranny is it? please help asap thanks.

thevikas87

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the exclamation mark coming on isnt enough to diagnose, sorry....theres nothing we can do without any more details...good luck

Oh1TypeS

that light only comes on when you turn off the traction control.(button right above the cruse control) ...Thats the only time I've ever seen it in my car.(01 cls) Any other lights come on with that?

immauser

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yea i know that normally when you turn off the traction (vsa) it stays on... but they said it came on all of a sudden and the car stopped running....

when trannys go out, does the light come on normally? thanks again

scribo

that light came on when my tranny died... can they start the car at least?

immauser

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are u serious!??!?! so my tranny went out on me then im guessing..the car wont even start!........man, i was just gonna sell that car too!!!!!

immauser

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NEW UPDATE:

correction, its not the VSA light that came on...its the engine light that came on....sounds more serious now?!

01clsstock

NEW UPDATE:

Your fiance's dad beat the crap out of your car doing brake stands and borke it!!!!

StypeCL02

HAHA that's Funny, Run the codes on the ECU to find out, It's probly someting Stupid dont stress it, Know you now not to let your Fiance's Father Drive it.

immauser

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im hoping its something stupid.... right now shes stuck in the middle of no where waiting for a tow truck.... she said she tried to start the car, and it wont even start or make the starting sound.... my battery was bad from the start, im really hoping its the battery...but the lights still can turn on both interior and exterior...... from what i heard, the car was running fine, then i thnk the "engine light" or something came on (they werent too clear)...then they pulled over and turned the car off, then it wouldtn turn back on.... any one had a similar prob? thanks

black label

Flux capacitors probably burnt out. It's on the firewall on the same side as the battery. You can tell if it's burnt out by looking at it, it will be a dark gray/black color.

fuzzy02CLS

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Did it over heat? Did it die while he was driving or stopped?
If it over heated the engine temp may be too high & the car will not start.
Battery and or cables are suspect. How many miles on the car? Do any maintenance on it?

immauser

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hmm..its on the way to honda right now.... im stuck at work.... so theyll have a look at it.

also, when my fiancee tried to start the car. it didnt even fire up at all or make that ignition starting sound...it made like a humming sound only.....

i do regular oil changes / maintanence on the car..the last one done was like less then 4 months ago i think. the car was driving and from what i heard the "engine" light came on, so he pulled over to see what it was...turned off the engine.... then tried to restart and it didnt fire up no more...the lights still work

miles is 112,500...and it didnt over heat .

VIPCLS

I bet the light came on due to the battery was about to die. I bet it is ur battery or a bad code that seized the engine from starting.

immauser

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i really hope its the battery ... i dont see why the engine would all of a sudden crap out on me out of no where or the tranny.... my car is regularly maintained and i dont drive it hard nor use sports shift at all

VIPCLS

Hope so too! I mean if the interior lights still work it could still be the battery. Other than that who knows, the engine is so electronic, only a tech could tell u if it is not visible from under the hood

immauser

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haha..thanks.

but yea, the interior and exterior lights work...so im not too sure... from the research i did so far, it doesnt sound like the tranny .... my fiancee said the tow truck driver told her it sounds like the timing belt? the car ran smooth ... its suppose to sound like ur car is about to explode if its the belt right? because it ran smooth then all of a sudden they said it felt like there was no gas left ( i had half tank still)

black label

I doubt it's a battery. Your altenator powers the car once it's been started. If the altenator was dying, you probably would have had a "battery light". I've never had a t-belt break on me but I think it's loud when it happens.

If it felt like there was no gas left but you had a half tank, how about a fuel pump? That would effectively be running dry.

VIPCLS

Or your alt or fuel pump too. By the way how many miles is on the car? From the vague description u gave us I really cant tell u too much. Whatever it is it could be a whole lot worse, u can think about it that way. Just cross ur fingers its not to major

immauser

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lol vipcls... yea it can be worst... hopefully not...im completely in the dark about it right now because i havnt seen the car myself.ill be seeing it in an hour.... its either alternator, starter, or fuel pump then ...

artbran

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I say a possible fuel pump in that case and the ECU was reading that it was running lean as hell thus throwing the code. But thats just me...

AnthraciteTypeS

Sounds to me like timing belt. Have you had it done yet being you're at 112k?

immauser

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youre rite man.... its the timing belt.... its sitting in honda right now, they said it needs new valves, and new heads..... ....

i dont know if i really need a new head though.... from what my buddy told me it should only need new valves? anyone had a timing belt bust on them? thanks

swoleCL

damn, timing belt breakage is a bitch.

immauser

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yea.... tell me about it... honda is telling me the parts alone would cost near 3k.... but thats with changing the two heads.... my buddy told me that his timing belt blew before too, but he only needed to change out the valves....he said the head shouldnt be damaged...but i dont know why honda told me i need to change them both out??

YeuEmMaiMai

were you past 105-120K in milage?

the reason they said new heads is that acura techs do not rebuild engines per sae they would just replace the whole head (prolly cheaper than having acura rebuild it, or replace parts on it.

VIPCLS

Damn man! Sorry to hear that, I know that is the last thing anybody needs. Sux man hang in there

03CLS6spdcharcoal

Man, just buy a used motor from a junkyard for probably 500 bucks. You can have a local shop probably install it for around 4-600 dollars. My uncle owns a junkyard Hyattsville Md that has a motor if thats anywhere close to you. The dealer is going to rape you for at least 3k.

SiCrew

^agreed...

Dredd

These things don't have timing CHAINS? And how often do they tend to go out?

knight rider

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Sorry to hear that, but it makes me feel better about spending the $$ to get mine done with my 105K service. I shelled out some dough, but not 3 Gs. Good luck with that.

black label

it's a belt

artbran

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wait, Honda is telling you $3k for the rebuild?! a friend of mine blew his motor after having a dyno shop tune it with laughing gas (he was driving home). He had to replace 5 of the 6 pistons (yup.. One was good), All the rods, both heads (spark plugs melted to the heads), all the valves, cams..... Pretty much a new motor. With the work for $2600 about 2 years ago.

victorvu

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dont worry you're not the only one with bent valves i am too. usually it would be cheaper to send it out to a machine shop so they can do it. Thats what im doing.

immauser

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um..all the 24 valves are bent.... my mechanic said in that case the head is probably damaged....its better off to get a new motor.... so im seeing if anyone on here is selling a 2001 acura cl-s motor? im from san francisco, any recommendations on local areas? thanks

fuzzy02CLS

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I've seen a few on Ebay recently.

03CLS6spdcharcoal

Im pretty sure all the 01-03 CLS long blocks are the same. Just a few differences with throttle body and such with the manual vs auto but you can use yours off the blown motor if its not the same. Have you tried to contact salvage yards around the area? That would be my first move. Im sure a used parts yard should have a motor within a few hours drive. These motors are strong as long as you maintain them, so if you do get a used one you may want to think about doing a TB before the install if you dont know what the miles are or if it was done before. Good Luck man!

immauser

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i got an engine for 479 including shipping! 119,000 miles on it. but i dont plan on keeping the car anyways since i just picked up a white 2001 cl-s with low miles for 7k!...i feel ripped off for my dead one which costed near 10k..

DarkSithCL

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Glad u made out good on another cl... and an engine for ur busted one!

....now... how many miles on the new---er cls? Some peeps say you should change the TB on GP after a certain age.. no matter the mileage...so if ur new cls' TB hasnt been changed... you might consider it...

.... I got to around 128k on my 1st belt bf I changed it, but that was just because I had to!!!!

immauser

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there is 91k on this new cl-s.... im going to change it really soon. not letting it go over 100k without changing it just to be on the safe side...