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Old 05-05-2001, 02:35 PM
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Be gentle... it was my first time

First for some disclaimers (or excuses if you wanna call them that!!!):
1) This was my first time ever at a track in ANY car
2) I had 1/2 tank of gas
3) Temp 68-80 degrees, humidity 10-20%
4) Elevation: 1000 ft
5) I didn't mess with my tire pressures at all and I have 20k on the shitty stock tires.

Best run - vs a Civic EX with GS-R engine (I won )
Used SS and shifted 2-3 at 7200rpm. Went a little lighter on the launch to reduce wheelspin
R/T .798
60' 2.405
330 6.534
1/8 9.808
MPH 75.35
1000 12.632
1/4 15.027
MPH 93.19

Next best run
Lost to a Firebird Formula that only ran a 14.2
Used SS, shifted 2-3 at 7200 rpm
R/T .748
60' 2.429
330 6.625
1/8 9.940
MPH 74.40
1000 12.799
1/4 15.222
MPH 92.05

Worst run
Raped a Talon TSi (or at least he had a TSi sticker )
Used 1-2-D3. Was paranoid about hitting the rev limiter and shifted from 1-2 WAY early (6600rpm)
R/T .828
60' 2.646
330 6.882
1/8 10.226
MPH 72.69
1000 13.102
1/4 15.535
MPH 92.94

Overall....
Best R/T: .540
Best 60': 2.405
Best 1/4: 15.027
Best 1/4 MPH: 93.68

As they say.... practice makes perfect... and I need A LOT of practice
I think with the current tires I could only pull a 14.7 AT BEST with a great launch and a little less gas and air in the tires. Comments?

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Wouldn't lowering tire pressure in the front tires also INCREASE rolling resistance thus lower 1/4 times? Any traction gained would be lost on the traps!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rwwlaw:
Wouldn't lowering tire pressure in the front tires also INCREASE rolling resistance thus lower 1/4 times? Any traction gained would be lost on the traps!</font>
I have no idea! I'm definitely a track racing novice. All I know is that the guys I was there with were tweaking their tire pressures. So whether they're supposed to go up or down, I don't know... I just know that some adjustments should be able to be made and they should help out a lil bit.

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lowering the tire pressure will give you better grip off the launch but theororetically will slow your 1/4 mile time because of what that guy said. but from experiance, it should ultimately lower your 1/4 mile time. also remove any weight, like your spare, subs, ect... if you are really trying to shave your 1/4 mile times bring a couple bags of ice and before you run, put the bags of ice one your engine, keeping the car off but in neutral, push the car up in line till it is your turn and remove the ice bags and go! make sure all windows and sunrood are closed. shift around 7100rpm. use the D1>D2>D3 shifting rather than SS. do all this and with your mods you will very happy with your times.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GoldTypeS:
Be gentle... it was my first time

First for some disclaimers (or excuses if you wanna call them that!!!):
1) This was my first time ever at a track in ANY car
2) I had 1/2 tank of gas
3) Temp 68-80 degrees, humidity 10-20%
4) Elevation: 1000 ft
5) I didn't mess with my tire pressures at all and I have 20k on the shitty stock tires.

Best run - vs a Civic EX with GS-R engine (I won )
Used SS and shifted 2-3 at 7200rpm. Went a little lighter on the launch to reduce wheelspin
R/T .798
60' 2.405
330 6.534
1/8 9.808
MPH 75.35
1000 12.632
1/4 15.027
MPH 93.19

Next best run
Lost to a Firebird Formula that only ran a 14.2
Used SS, shifted 2-3 at 7200 rpm
R/T .748
60' 2.429
330 6.625
1/8 9.940
MPH 74.40
1000 12.799
1/4 15.222
MPH 92.05

Worst run
Raped a Talon TSi (or at least he had a TSi sticker )
Used 1-2-D3. Was paranoid about hitting the rev limiter and shifted from 1-2 WAY early (6600rpm)
R/T .828
60' 2.646
330 6.882
1/8 10.226
MPH 72.69
1000 13.102
1/4 15.535
MPH 92.94

Overall....
Best R/T: .540
Best 60': 2.405
Best 1/4: 15.027
Best 1/4 MPH: 93.68

As they say.... practice makes perfect... and I need A LOT of practice
I think with the current tires I could only pull a 14.7 AT BEST with a great launch and a little less gas and air in the tires. Comments?

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Now see if you had an Xehpyr CAI you would have been running close to 14.4 @ 97 mph. Of course there is always a chance that you have a slow one like me...



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Old 05-05-2001, 04:48 PM
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Why the hell is everyone ripping on Xephyr? This is getting ridiculous. WE ALL KNOW that not all cars are made equal. If somebody honeslty thinks they will gain 30 horses from a CAI, they're idiots. There really isnt any difference between the AEM and Xephyr CAI. At the most 1 or 2 hp. Xephyr has a good product for the money. If he made an intake with no bypass valve I would definately bought one from him. Are you guys jealous that he is an entrepeneur? It seems like it. So who gives a shit what Xephyr runs. It is his car not mine. The CAI will not give you more then a .2 second drop in the quarter.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spiroh:
Why the hell is everyone ripping on Xephyr? This is getting ridiculous. WE ALL KNOW that not all cars are made equal. If somebody honeslty thinks they will gain 30 horses from a CAI, they're idiots. There really isnt any difference between the AEM and Xephyr CAI. At the most 1 or 2 hp. Xephyr has a good product for the money. If he made an intake with no bypass valve I would definately bought one from him. Are you guys jealous that he is an entrepeneur? It seems like it. So who gives a shit what Xephyr runs. It is his car not mine. The CAI will not give you more then a .2 second drop in the quarter.

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Hey it must be the intake, have you seen his sig? Have you seen his posts? Until he decides to stop trying to sell his product that way I will continue to make sure people know. I may be out of line but I sure as hell will not let another member think that that is the cause of his times. Don't ask him that because he will just dodge the question.


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Old 05-05-2001, 05:05 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker:

Hey it must be the intake, have you seen his sig? Have you seen his posts? Until he decides to stop trying to sell his product that way I will continue to make sure people know. I may be out of line but I sure as hell will not let another member think that that is the cause of his times. Don't ask him that because he will just dodge the question.


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We will never know for sure. Maybe he had more than just the CAI. However, I don't find it completely unbelievable that he got a 14.4 with just CAI. Some people have gotten 14.8 stock. So, .4 seems reasonable given the fact that the temperature was 30 degrees. However, 14.4 is not a typical result of just using a CAI. It's the combination of the CAI and ideal conditions.

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Old 05-05-2001, 05:13 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TakeFlight:
We will never know for sure. Maybe he had more than just the CAI. However, I don't find it completely unbelievable that he got a 14.4 with just CAI. Some people have gotten 14.8 stock. So, .4 seems reasonable given the fact that the temperature was 30 degrees. However, 14.4 is not a typical result of just using a CAI. It's the combination of the CAI and ideal conditions.

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Believe me, its not that I don't think he made that 1/4 mile time. All I am saying is that he is trying to and has been selling his product with those times.



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Old 05-05-2001, 07:39 PM
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Hey i saw your last run mark and the reason your not hitting 14s is your launch. Your 60' is crap and thats because you werent staging deep. You went past the first light, lit up the second on then kept going. You wanna creep up to that seconds stageing light and soon as it turns on stop and torqe break to about 1500 rpm. Then get on it when you see that 3rd yellow light. ITs all about the 60'

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Old 05-05-2001, 07:46 PM
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this theory only applies if you are shooting for the best possible time. so he is correct, but if you are not in time trials, but elimination, pull that baby up so that the first staging light TURNS OFF, so you get as much as headstart as possible on the other guy, becuase in that case, it's who crosses the line first, of course this all depends on your local track rules...

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 2000MaximaSE:
Hey i saw your last run mark and the reason your not hitting 14s is your launch. Your 60' is crap and thats because you werent staging deep. You went past the first light, lit up the second on then kept going. You wanna creep up to that seconds stageing light and soon as it turns on stop and torqe break to about 1500 rpm. Then get on it when you see that 3rd yellow light. ITs all about the 60'

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Old 05-05-2001, 08:36 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 2000MaximaSE:
Hey i saw your last run mark and the reason your not hitting 14s is your launch. Your 60' is crap and thats because you werent staging deep. You went past the first light, lit up the second on then kept going. You wanna creep up to that seconds stageing light and soon as it turns on stop and torqe break to about 1500 rpm. Then get on it when you see that 3rd yellow light. ITs all about the 60'

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yeah, I know my 60' times are pretty bad. But with cheap stock touring tires with 20k on them the last thing I wanna do is brake torque. I'd spin all the way through 1st and end up with 15.8s.... I can guarantee it!! Once I get new tires I expect to be pulling 14s even without great launches. And hopefully, I can get to around 14.6 with a good launch.

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Sorry this may be off topic but, when magazines post the stock quarter mile times on our cars, is that given that they are using the stock tires too? And iguess for that matter everything else stock. Thanks.

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I assume you did your runs at Firebird Raceway. How many runs did you get in? Was it crowded, with long waits between runs? Did you go on a Friday night?

P.S. Thanks for organizing the AZ Mills Mall meet. Sorry I had to cut out so early, but I had to get to a very interesting wedding--2 brides, no groom!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cap'n Carl:
I assume you did your runs at Firebird Raceway. How many runs did you get in? Was it crowded, with long waits between runs? Did you go on a Friday night?

P.S. Thanks for organizing the AZ Mills Mall meet. Sorry I had to cut out so early, but I had to get to a very interesting wedding--2 brides, no groom!
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Yep, went to Firebird last night. We got there early and got 3 runs in during the first hour. I got a total of 5 runs in between the hours of 7:15pm and about 9:30pm. Then I left.

I'll shoot you an email next time I get some guys together to go.
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webby, shut the fuck up, stop ripping chris. All cars put out different times none are alike

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GoldTypeS:
Be gentle... it was my first time

First for some disclaimers (or excuses if you wanna call them that!!!):
1) This was my first time ever at a track in ANY car
2) I had 1/2 tank of gas
3) Temp 68-80 degrees, humidity 10-20%
4) Elevation: 1000 ft
5) I didn't mess with my tire pressures at all and I have 20k on the shitty stock tires.

Best run - vs a Civic EX with GS-R engine (I won )
Used SS and shifted 2-3 at 7200rpm. Went a little lighter on the launch to reduce wheelspin
R/T .798
60' 2.405
330 6.534
1/8 9.808
MPH 75.35
1000 12.632
1/4 15.027
MPH 93.19

Next best run
Lost to a Firebird Formula that only ran a 14.2
Used SS, shifted 2-3 at 7200 rpm
R/T .748
60' 2.429
330 6.625
1/8 9.940
MPH 74.40
1000 12.799
1/4 15.222
MPH 92.05

Worst run
Raped a Talon TSi (or at least he had a TSi sticker )
Used 1-2-D3. Was paranoid about hitting the rev limiter and shifted from 1-2 WAY early (6600rpm)
R/T .828
60' 2.646
330 6.882
1/8 10.226
MPH 72.69
1000 13.102
1/4 15.535
MPH 92.94

Overall....
Best R/T: .540
Best 60': 2.405
Best 1/4: 15.027
Best 1/4 MPH: 93.68

As they say.... practice makes perfect... and I need A LOT of practice
I think with the current tires I could only pull a 14.7 AT BEST with a great launch and a little less gas and air in the tires. Comments?

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GoldTypeS,
Not bad for a first time out, I've been to the track several times and the best I was ever getting was 14.9'. Still trying to figure out how everyone else is getting in the mid 14's, and low 14's If you plan on going to the track much I would definetly get them to look at the transmission fluid ever 3500 to 5k miles.



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Gold,

Did you remove any excess weight from the car when you ran? Spare tire, jack etc??

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tom2:
Gold,

Did you remove any excess weight from the car when you ran? Spare tire, jack etc??

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I didn't remove anything of consequence. A couple towels, an absorber and my club. If and when I get into the 14s and I get a little more practice at this, I may try lightening things up a bit.
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