JRock

Just thinking things through tonight while I was out driving and these are some of the things I thought of:

+Last year the Camaro/Firebird will ever be made is '02 (for a while, if ever).
+Much easier to mod to get incredible performance.
+Don't have to feel screwed when Nissan/Toyota/Mistu brings out a car with 240/260 hp, because none of that shit could touch me.
+Nothing under $30k quite as fun to drag race around town as a V8 f-body.
+Already has tons of mod support (even superchargers) compared to the limited modability of the CLS.
+Parts can take much higher hp/torque numbers.
+No more slushbox SS shifting that supposedly can't be tweaked to shift sharper right now (I actually tried SS tonight. It's been a while. I was shocked to see how long after I moved the stick the thing finally shifted.)
+And I can even get it in the nice dark blue color and it'll look pretty sweet.

-Lack of luxury.
-Rear wheel drive sucks in wet weather.
-Interior isn't as comfy or nice.

I guess I'm just having one of those moods where I think I picked the wrong car.
I see people in Camaros/Mustangs, etc, and I wish I could compete with that. I wish I could race them.

And having driven my dad's '97 Z28 a lot I know how nice it is to have that wall of torque squish you into the seat as you watch the speedometer needle sweep quickly across the faceplate. I miss the raw power.

I mean I still love the CLS, but I yearn for more power.

I don't want to waste $5,000 (or however much it will cost) on the Comptech supercharger if/when it comes out only to find out it's gonna kill my engine/tranny in a year. Plus it won't be only $5,000. It'll end up being like $7-8,000 because I'd need to get headers and stronger tranny parts most likely. And I don't even have that kind of money.

Besides, let's face it, the CLS ain't meant for modding.

And me being a speed addict, I don't know if I'm getting a big enough fix from the CLS.

Anyone else get similar feelings sometimes?

-J

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2001 CL-S Aegean Blue/black interior spoiler, wheel locks, no-navi
50% tint sides, 35% back.
J&J RAP CAI

Beltfed

Well, at least you know that a CL wasn't meant to be a ballistic land rocket......I knew what I was getting into, a nice, quiet luxury/sport coupe, good looks, lots of features, relatively quick for not too much money.

Fbodies aren't so cheap anymore either....a descently loaded SS Camaro with a few SLP toys can break the $30k mark fairly easy.

2 different cars, with very different missions.

Beltfed
01 CL-S
00 Viper GTS

NOVAwhiteTypeS

You On Crack man??

We JUST completed our set of J&J production RAM INTAKE!!



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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter w/ J&J RAP CAI. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers,Springs,Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.Polarg m6


gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

Don't forget to the cost of the dumpster you'll be pushing it after it falls apart. What a piece of cr@p those cars are. I have rented both on several occasions and they shake rattle and roll more than Bill Haley and the Comets.

For all you youngins, that was a rock and roll band back in the olden days.

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1999 Satin Silver Metallic 3.2 TL w/o Navigation

• 18x8 Racing Hart C2s with 225/40ZR18 Dunlop SP Sport 9000
• Comptech Springs, Sways, Exhaust, and Headers
• Red AEM CAI w/bypass valve
• A'PEXi Digital VTEC AFC
• Denso Iridium Plugs
• Custom Mugen Grill
• Inspire Tail Lights
• Factory Underbody Kit and Spoiler
• Clifford Intelliguard 9000 Alarm w/SmartWindows II
• Alpine 6 disk CD Changer
• BEL 945i Cordless Radar Detector
• Burlwood Shift Knob & Trunk Tray
• 20% tint

z28typeSWRXkid

If you cant tell by my name i love the f-bodys. They are the best performance buys out there hands down. Note i said performance buy. The interior is shitty and unattractive...and the ride is a mix bewtween a really old caddy and viper...floaty and harsh. If want you really want in a car is crazy ammounts of torque and the ability to go fast GO GET ONE!

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The Fast and the Furious
June 22
San Marino Red Type-S(its my dads...but soon to be mine)

z28typeSWRXkid

If you cant tell by my name i love the f-bodys. They are the best performance buys out there hands down. Note i said performance buy. The interior is shitty and unattractive...and the ride is a mix bewtween a really old caddy and viper...floaty and harsh. If want you really want in a car is crazy ammounts of torque and the ability to go fast GO GET ONE!

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The Fast and the Furious
June 22
San Marino Red Type-S(its my dads...but soon to be mine)

ruvz

Save your money!! Those cars are worthless american pieces of junk!


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2001 3.2CL Type S - Satin Silver - Polarg M6 roadlamps, 35% tint
Coming VERY soon: Eibach Springs, AEM CAI, Brembo Rotors

Tom2

Why not consider the 2001 Mustang Cobra?

Ford finally got the true HP rating in them. I'm not a big magazine racer, but Car and Driver managed to granny shift a new Cobra to a 13.5 sec 1/4 mile.

Expect to see low 13's at the track, bone stock.

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99 M3
dead CL-S

Tom2: The Voice Of Reason and Captain of the Bullshit Police.

DtEW

(And the 2001 Cobra is a bona fide sports car w/IRS, which is not something that can be said for the live axle F-bodies.)

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Potenza S-02 Pole Position

The Reasonable Voice of Bias

Beach-CL

The SVT Mustang was the car I was going to get before all the HP problems and suspension of the 2000 model production.
The independent rear suspension and Cobra engine are pretty sweet. And there are tons of aftermarket parts.

Then I decided on the CLS since there was really nothing else in that price range that compared.

I am about to go check the 2001 SVT Mustang. If a good deal pops up, I'll get it.




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2001 Silver CL-S

z28typeSWRXkid

ok ruvz what about american cars makes them trash?? I can recall many trashy non american cars.

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The Fast and the Furious
June 22
San Marino Red Type-S(its my dads...but soon to be mine)

phatpat

One of the main reasons why I bought the CL-S is because of its beautiful interior. In fact, it was the nicest interior I ever sat in (under $50k), even nicer than the BMW (just my opinion). I agree, it's nice to have raw power every now and then. But, I could care less about what cars I can/cannot beat, because I'm the one driving my car every day, therefore a nice interior is a must for me And we can beat a majority of the cars out there, with luxury and style...

Patrick

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'01 Black/Tan CL-S w/ Navi & spoiler
AEM CAI
Comptech headers, springs & sway bars
Toyo Proxes T1-S 235/45ZR17 tires
15% tint, Infinity Perfect sub/PPI amp

'97 Acura Integra LS

"It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning is winning."

silverESS

yeah, i'd go for the cobra too over the f-bod...fords engines/drivetrains seem much more refined in my opinion-take the smooth little 4.6 in the GT for example. i looked at a cobra briefly, but i couldn't stand the fake grille openings and scoops (WTF?), and the interior plastic and seats just suck!!

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you are not your fukking signature.

gmilian

get a motorcycle. they will beat anything out there, including a corvette, rustang, whatever. and you can say "all i have is 100hp and i just kicked your ass". you do 0-60 in about 3-4 sec, depending on your bike and how good of a rider you are. 1/4 mile in about 10-11 sec, as well.

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Not a cl-s owner just yet...but soon enough

-=SoCalV6=-

Not to mention Ford has been using a SOHC v8 in the latest Mustang GT's (98 n up?), while the SVT Cobra gets a DOHC v8!!! Very nice. Power output could be better but at least they finally learned a lesson in head technology and less moving parts equals less stress on an engine. GM's??? Still the Dinosauric OHV Pushrods, and what is it, two or three valves per cylinder? Even ford is still guilty of that I believe.

In anycase, Ford is finally pushing foward, updating, and striving to evolve and change, where as GM is well, stagnant and being put out to pasture (Evolve or die...good riddens Camaro/Firebirds).

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-=SoCalV6=-
1999 TW Accord EX v6 Cpe
aka Valentine with some show 'n go.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=915449&a=6671899
*Comptech Headers, Sways, V6 Oil Cap/Batt TD
*WeaponR Circuit Pros,CF Intake, Dragon Filter, FPR, Breather, Coo Res, G-Spec Floors, 4-PTs
*CL Type S Frnt Strut Bar
*Koni Yellows
*18/7.5/+40 Volk TE37s
*225/40/18 Nitto NT-555s
*Tanabe Hyper Medals
*PIAA Hi's,lo's,Fogs, Wedge
*Nology HotWires,Powercore Ig Amp
*Razo Pedals, NE AT Knob
*GD2000BW, WW Touring Wing

Beltfed

I love when people say that to me....I'm always like "ok then "....Its a ridiculous comparison.

Beltfed
01 CL-S
00 Viper GTS

Type S Smokes All

hey bro your on crack, i raced an SS the other day and had absofuckinlutly no problem keepin up with him, and he doesnt have GPS

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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, Springs, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!

StypeCL

Do NOT trade your car. My mom has a 99 Z28 and its a POS. The build quality in the CL is far better than the chevy. My moms Z28 is falling apart. Don't get me wrong I was deciding between the CL-S or a SLP Firehawk, but I choose the CL-s over the bird. No regrets!

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01 CL-S Satin Silver
Eibach Pro-Kit, Brushed aluminum dash kit, 5%tint all round, Spoiler, Weapon R intake

phatpat

If I had a million dollars, I might buy the POS just for kicks

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'01 Black/Tan CL-S w/ Navi & spoiler
AEM CAI
Comptech headers, springs & sway bars
Toyo Proxes T1-S 235/45ZR17 tires
15% tint, Infinity Perfect sub/PPI amp

'97 Acura Integra LS

"It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning is winning."

Type S Smokes All

word, but i bet hes no millionare

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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, Springs, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!

4pumpedCL

I've never driven a Camaro SS, but I did ride in a Geo Storm once, and they look really similar. I wasn't too impressed.

Ogolden1

Hey Bro! ...You're smokin' some good shit!
(pass it this way!)
An SS does a 5.2 0-60 doesn't it?
I KNOW your car isn't that fast!

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Red
Type S
So. Cal.
Dark Tint
18" Niche Bella 2-piece
Forged Aluminum Wheels
235/40/18 Sumo HTRZ II's
Jet Performance PCM Mod
Ram-Air CAI w/ K&N Filter
Removed Pre-muffler
Liquid Glass Finish
G-tech 0-60 in 6.1 secs
...Looks & feels faster!

scalbert

Not trying to debate that this matter, just adding to it.

But DOHC muti-valve heads are not new. The first one was built and used in 1912... Hardly 'New' technology...

Rod

Exactly, I'm very happy with this car, but there are those times that I wish I would've gotten a Supra TT, a much faster car that's easier to mod too. If they still made new Supras, I would've gotten one instead of the CL-S. I didn't want the headaches that tend to come with used cars.

nootch

They are fun to drive but not to own.

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Looks like I am going to have to carjack my CL-S

Fabvsix

You want the fastest, get a HORSE ! They can out run ANYTHING ! GUARANTEED !

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"We're spoiled rotten"
Waiting for 6 speed manual CLS !
2001 CL Type S Black/Ebony w/NAVI, PIAA bulbs, Tinted windows, JL Sub-woofer/Fosgate 250 watt amp, Comptech Sway Bars,Kyocera Smartphone/Palm powered otherwise pure stock/PIF (Paid In Full)
1998 Accord Coupe EX-V6
Black Currant Pearl, PIAA bulbs, tinted windows, Fosgate 500 watt amp, Eclipes 6X9's,JL Sub-woofer, otherwise PURE stock/PIF (Paid In Full)!

Ashburner

I sold my 99 Camaro SS and got a Mitsubishi Galant LS. Nice car, but too small and not enough power. I traded that car in and got the CL-S. Totally different class of car.

BTW, I loved the SS. 0-60 was 4.9 seconds and I could easily run a 13.6 with no mods and a 100lb stereo. The LS1 alluminum block engine is bullet proof and the tranny is awesome. I never had a single problem with the car in the 2 years and 25K miles that I raced everything in sight. I was only beat once and that was by a new vette.

Anyways, the car was awesome... there were only a few things that bugged me about the car including the huge doors that you have to be careful with, minor rattles (although the CL-S rattles even more with only 2500 miles on it), ride confort is fine if the trip is less that an hour or so, of course the car can fly! I made it from Sacramento city limits to LA city limits in 3 hours and 57 minutes, of course, I had to fill up for gas 3 times on the 367 mile trip.

I got rid of the car because I am getting married and that car alone gets more looks in 1 week than in 3 months with the CL-S. Women love it and trust me, the'll do just about anything if you let them drive it

Out of all the cars I have owned, it was definitely the most fun to drive, day in and day out! After two years, I still loved to drive it- I've never had that feeling before. Thankfully, the person I sold it to works here and he'll let me drive it if I ask.

BTW people- don't comepare a stock Z28 to an SS. It is an entirely different ride. A Z28 floats like a boat and an SS sticks to the ground like wet tar. I could easily take a 90 degree turn in the SS at 70 mph without even a screech of the tires... A Z28 would roll around the same turn until tire grip was non existant.

Mustangs can't hold a candle to the SS, sorry ford guys!

-AAsh

BLOWN 331

Nick...your definitely smoking crack!!! Let me borrow my friends 01 SS and pull two spark plug wires and give you the go. You'll still lose.

BLOWN 331

BLOWN 331

The torque of a V8 engine...what a wonderful rush! In regards to Ford(Cobra) vs Chevy (SS) no offense taken. Chevy did the right thing in putting the LT1 Corvette engine in the Camaro. It's fast from factory. I wish Ford would sell prodution Mustangs with the Windsor 351 V8, then it would be an even match up. But that's Ford for you.

BLOWN 331

QUOTE]Originally posted by Ashburner:
I sold my 99 Camaro SS and got a Mitsubishi Galant LS. Nice car, but too small and not enough power. I traded that car in and got the CL-S. Totally different class of car.

BTW, I loved the SS. 0-60 was 4.9 seconds and I could easily run a 13.6 with no mods and a 100lb stereo. The LS1 alluminum block engine is bullet proof and the tranny is awesome. I never had a single problem with the car in the 2 years and 25K miles that I raced everything in sight. I was only beat once and that was by a new vette.

Anyways, the car was awesome... there were only a few things that bugged me about the car including the huge doors that you have to be careful with, minor rattles (although the CL-S rattles even more with only 2500 miles on it), ride confort is fine if the trip is less that an hour or so, of course the car can fly! I made it from Sacramento city limits to LA city limits in 3 hours and 57 minutes, of course, I had to fill up for gas 3 times on the 367 mile trip.

I got rid of the car because I am getting married and that car alone gets more looks in 1 week than in 3 months with the CL-S. Women love it and trust me, the'll do just about anything if you let them drive it

Out of all the cars I have owned, it was definitely the most fun to drive, day in and day out! After two years, I still loved to drive it- I've never had that feeling before. Thankfully, the person I sold it to works here and he'll let me drive it if I ask.

BTW people- don't comepare a stock Z28 to an SS. It is an entirely different ride. A Z28 floats like a boat and an SS sticks to the ground like wet tar. I could easily take a 90 degree turn in the SS at 70 mph without even a screech of the tires... A Z28 would roll around the same turn until tire grip was non existant.

Mustangs can't hold a candle to the SS, sorry ford guys!

-AAsh[/QUOTE]

BBsAcuraRacing

Keep the CL-s and spend 10k on a used GN that will still smoke the firebirds and camaros. I have a 1986 near stock that will run high 12's...

Chris

i personally don't agree because i've never liked those american muscle cars... i don't have anything against them... they're just not for me

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Acura 3.2CL Type-S w/ Navigation
Black/Ebony

H&R Sport Springs | Pirelli P7000 Supersport 235/40ZR17 on stock rims | Neuspeed Tower Strut Bar | Custom CAI | Cleared Headlights, PIAA 19169 | Tint all around | Mesh Grill | Dual 12'' Alpine Type-S Subs | Kenwood KAC-728S Amp | RÄZO real carbon pedals

BBsAcuraRacing

keep your CL-s and spend 10k on a used GN. I have a 1986 that is near stock and will smoke the camaros and firebirds. I run high 12's.

BBsAcuraRacing

OOPS! Is there an echo in here???

Beach-CL

This is absofuckinlutly not possible. Maybe it was the 6 cylinder disguised as an SS.



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2001 Silver CL-S