Luckiest guy in the world with a CLS :(( ( Part 2)
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
Luckiest guy in the world with a CLS :(( ( Part 2)
I was in trouuble this night, we were almost killed... sort of .....
As every one is aware.. I am driving with 1 stock rim and 3 18" konig rims.
The bad news is that I was driving fast on a ramp and... the unimaginable happend, I lost my back (side with least traction, of course the stock rim) as I as comming out of the ramp at high speed, I did not even had chance to look if the VSA saved my... I was skidding sideways in the ramp and I was battling to correct the oversteer ...and ... I hit the curb from front.... We were okay but I was sure that I hit hard and somthing was fucked up... driving the CLS immediately revealed that it is out of balance...
Quick Inspection revealed the following damages:
1) The driver side front 18" got 1" bend from inner side of the rim.
2) Minor bulge, do not konow if this is because of the bent and it would go away when the rim is fixed or tire need to be replaced?
3) The towing hook get bend 45 degrees.
4) Minor scrapes in the underling plastics
I spent some 1-2 hr, removing the damaged wheel, got a hammer from wallmart and Protective leather and tried to strighten the bend as much as I can so I can drive the CLS.
The lesson learned from this incident is that first do not drive a CLS with mixed tires/wheels it is not safe. VSA may not help too much.
First thing to do tommorrow:
1) get the rim fixed ASAP. Does anyone knows a good place to fix a rim in MA/NH ?
2)Inspect the tire if there is a bulge torne steal belts, I will replace it otherwise I will live with it. What do you think?
Finally, I guess, I need all of you to wish me the best luck ....
I thank my Creator for coming out of this safe and sound.
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/13/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5, +45 offset, Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
[This message has been edited by Nashua_Night_Hawk (edited 04-18-2001).]
As every one is aware.. I am driving with 1 stock rim and 3 18" konig rims.
The bad news is that I was driving fast on a ramp and... the unimaginable happend, I lost my back (side with least traction, of course the stock rim) as I as comming out of the ramp at high speed, I did not even had chance to look if the VSA saved my... I was skidding sideways in the ramp and I was battling to correct the oversteer ...and ... I hit the curb from front.... We were okay but I was sure that I hit hard and somthing was fucked up... driving the CLS immediately revealed that it is out of balance...
Quick Inspection revealed the following damages:
1) The driver side front 18" got 1" bend from inner side of the rim.
2) Minor bulge, do not konow if this is because of the bent and it would go away when the rim is fixed or tire need to be replaced?
3) The towing hook get bend 45 degrees.
4) Minor scrapes in the underling plastics
I spent some 1-2 hr, removing the damaged wheel, got a hammer from wallmart and Protective leather and tried to strighten the bend as much as I can so I can drive the CLS.
The lesson learned from this incident is that first do not drive a CLS with mixed tires/wheels it is not safe. VSA may not help too much.
First thing to do tommorrow:
1) get the rim fixed ASAP. Does anyone knows a good place to fix a rim in MA/NH ?
2)Inspect the tire if there is a bulge torne steal belts, I will replace it otherwise I will live with it. What do you think?
Finally, I guess, I need all of you to wish me the best luck ....
I thank my Creator for coming out of this safe and sound.
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/13/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5, +45 offset, Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
[This message has been edited by Nashua_Night_Hawk (edited 04-18-2001).]
Kill the Chicken heads
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From: U of A/ Orange County
That is some crazy ass $hit, i hope that never happens again to anyone here. B/c it would be a tradgedy to read about a fellow Cl.com person to loose their life. Glad it was just the rim that was hurt.
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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!
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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!
Suzuka Master
Joined: Nov 2000
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From: Ninth Gate & So Cal
I am going to have to go searching. I think the VSA gets brain damage with mixed rubber.
I will look for part I -- what happened to Mr. Nitto? Boy I leave for a bit and it's like I missed an earthquake!
Sorry, to hear about the damage, at least your safe.
You had the angels looking out for you...
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
I will look for part I -- what happened to Mr. Nitto? Boy I leave for a bit and it's like I missed an earthquake!
Sorry, to hear about the damage, at least your safe.
You had the angels looking out for you...
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
- Mud guards
- Wheel locks
- Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
- Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
- Comptech headers & sways ready
- Silver AEM CAI ready
- 8 coats of Zaino magic
Suzuka Master
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From: Ninth Gate & So Cal
I looked at your earlier post now -- got it.
You should have the tires inspected (up close and personal). If an engine blows, you just stop, if the tire blows... well, it could be really bad (VSA or not).
I'm not so sure about the pounding on the rim deal. Did I get this right -- you pounded on the rim? You do NOT want to use it again *OR* you want to make sure you tell a wheel repair service to inspect it (and tell them about your mini fix-up repair to the rim).
The thing that is no nasty about the different tire on a left or right side of the car is human factors. You get used to the new cornering power on a right turn, then expect (by human nature) to expect the same from the left, but now you have the makings of total understeer. Those Nittos must be at least twice as sticky as the stock tires (depending on surface), so when the rear stock tire got loaded, it just did a "fast break" on you. (Sliding resistance is lower).
Go back to the tire/wheel dealer -- please make sure that all the tires and wheels are inspected and if you need to, get a second opinion if your intuition says to. (Your life is too important.) (Yes, it's just my 2 cents, but the suspension and brakes are just too important)
BTW -- it is nice to be able to get a flat-bed tow. Did they not have one for you?
The expression, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger comes to mind." (While not welcome, I think it is true...)
Good luck Bro -- (or should I say, break a leg?)
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
You should have the tires inspected (up close and personal). If an engine blows, you just stop, if the tire blows... well, it could be really bad (VSA or not).
I'm not so sure about the pounding on the rim deal. Did I get this right -- you pounded on the rim? You do NOT want to use it again *OR* you want to make sure you tell a wheel repair service to inspect it (and tell them about your mini fix-up repair to the rim).
The thing that is no nasty about the different tire on a left or right side of the car is human factors. You get used to the new cornering power on a right turn, then expect (by human nature) to expect the same from the left, but now you have the makings of total understeer. Those Nittos must be at least twice as sticky as the stock tires (depending on surface), so when the rear stock tire got loaded, it just did a "fast break" on you. (Sliding resistance is lower).
Go back to the tire/wheel dealer -- please make sure that all the tires and wheels are inspected and if you need to, get a second opinion if your intuition says to. (Your life is too important.) (Yes, it's just my 2 cents, but the suspension and brakes are just too important)
BTW -- it is nice to be able to get a flat-bed tow. Did they not have one for you?
The expression, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger comes to mind." (While not welcome, I think it is true...)
Good luck Bro -- (or should I say, break a leg?)
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
- Mud guards
- Wheel locks
- Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
- Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
- Comptech headers & sways ready
- Silver AEM CAI ready
- 8 coats of Zaino magic
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by EricL:
I looked at your earlier post now -- got it.
You should have the tires inspected (up close and personal). If an engine blows, you just stop, if the tire blows... well, it could be really bad (VSA or not). </font>
I looked at your earlier post now -- got it.
You should have the tires inspected (up close and personal). If an engine blows, you just stop, if the tire blows... well, it could be really bad (VSA or not). </font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by EricL:
I'm not so sure about the pounding on the rim deal. Did I get this right -- you pounded on the rim? You do NOT want to use it again *OR* you want to make sure you tell a wheel repair service to inspect it (and tell them about your mini fix-up repair to the rim).
</font>
I'm not so sure about the pounding on the rim deal. Did I get this right -- you pounded on the rim? You do NOT want to use it again *OR* you want to make sure you tell a wheel repair service to inspect it (and tell them about your mini fix-up repair to the rim).
</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by EricL:
The thing that is no nasty about the different tire on a left or right side of the car is human factors. You get used to the new cornering power on a right turn, then expect (by human nature) to expect the same from the left, but now you have the makings of total understeer. Those Nittos must be at least twice as sticky as the stock tires (depending on surface), so when the rear stock tire got loaded, it just did a "fast break" on you. (Sliding resistance is lower).
Go back to the tire/wheel dealer -- please make sure that all the tires and wheels are inspected and if you need to, get a second opinion if your intuition says to. (Your life is too important.) (Yes, it's just my 2 cents, but the suspension and brakes are just too important)
</font>
The thing that is no nasty about the different tire on a left or right side of the car is human factors. You get used to the new cornering power on a right turn, then expect (by human nature) to expect the same from the left, but now you have the makings of total understeer. Those Nittos must be at least twice as sticky as the stock tires (depending on surface), so when the rear stock tire got loaded, it just did a "fast break" on you. (Sliding resistance is lower).
Go back to the tire/wheel dealer -- please make sure that all the tires and wheels are inspected and if you need to, get a second opinion if your intuition says to. (Your life is too important.) (Yes, it's just my 2 cents, but the suspension and brakes are just too important)
</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
BTW -- it is nice to be able to get a flat-bed tow. Did they not have one for you?
</font>
BTW -- it is nice to be able to get a flat-bed tow. Did they not have one for you?
</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
The expression, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger comes to mind." (While not welcome, I think it is true...)
Good luck Bro -- (or should I say, break a leg?)
</font>
The expression, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger comes to mind." (While not welcome, I think it is true...)
Good luck Bro -- (or should I say, break a leg?)
</font>
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/13/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5, +45 offset, Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
[This message has been edited by Nashua_Night_Hawk (edited 04-18-2001).]
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From: Fort Washington, PA
"The lesson learned from this incident is that first do not drive a CLS with mixed tires/wheels it is not safe. VSA may not help too much."
Duh! It says that in the manual I think...
Even if it doesn't, its just common sense.
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Red 3.2 CL-S.
"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
"Too many news programs have become public relations friendly" -Bill Oreilly
"People spend too much time finding other people to blame, too much energy finding excuses for not being what they are capable of being, and not enough energy putting themselves on the line, growing out of the past, and getting on with their lives." - J. Michael Straczynski
Duh! It says that in the manual I think...
Even if it doesn't, its just common sense.
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Red 3.2 CL-S.
"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
"Too many news programs have become public relations friendly" -Bill Oreilly
"People spend too much time finding other people to blame, too much energy finding excuses for not being what they are capable of being, and not enough energy putting themselves on the line, growing out of the past, and getting on with their lives." - J. Michael Straczynski
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Burning Brakes
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From: The Scenic Sovereign Garden State. Joyzee
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:....snip....snip
The bad news is that I was driving fast on a ramp and... the unimaginable happend,
....snip....snip</font>
The bad news is that I was driving fast on a ramp and... the unimaginable happend,
....snip....snip</font>
1.Your aware of your wheels being mixed.
2. You said it yourself, "I was driving fast on a ramp..."
Nashua, I'm glad your fine but please take stock of the situation when piloting an unbalanced 3500lb missile. Others might get hurt.
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Fight On SC!
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From: fremont, ca
replace the tire, ericl is right. especially since you're rolling in low profiles, that tire is already weakened and it won't take much for that tire to pop.
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silver 2001 cl type s
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
What the heck to fix the rim would cost $150 to be replaced $215, $151 for the tire...
I willl buy my self peace of mind for $366!
Be wise lose money but do not get it hurt!
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/13/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5, +45 offset, Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
I willl buy my self peace of mind for $366!
Be wise lose money but do not get it hurt!
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/13/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5, +45 offset, Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
There is light at the end of the tunnel....
Called the town fair tire, and told him I was in accident due the stock rim/tire. I added that I hit a curb and my tire was bent and tire got a bulge. He said hold on... told his manager and came back and said... get back your stock rims and we take care of that for you
I will ask to have my new rim/wheel and front wheel Alignment...
I got a break!
Seems that those guys at town fair tire are cool guys
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/13/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5, +45 offset, Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
[This message has been edited by Nashua_Night_Hawk (edited 04-18-2001).]
Called the town fair tire, and told him I was in accident due the stock rim/tire. I added that I hit a curb and my tire was bent and tire got a bulge. He said hold on... told his manager and came back and said... get back your stock rims and we take care of that for you
I will ask to have my new rim/wheel and front wheel Alignment...
I got a break!
Seems that those guys at town fair tire are cool guys
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/13/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5, +45 offset, Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
[This message has been edited by Nashua_Night_Hawk (edited 04-18-2001).]
on bin laden
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From: Bloomington, MN
Nashua,
Best of luck to ya ... I hate to say this ... but I warned ya
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Black 2001 Type S
*Eibach Pro-Kit (Waiting to be installed)
*Xephyr Cold Air Intake
*PIAA 19169 Road Lamps
*Rockford 500a2 [FOR SALE]
*Pioneer 12" @ 400w (x2) [FOR SALE]
*77237-SOK-A02
---Still 2 rims not scratched---
Best of luck to ya ... I hate to say this ... but I warned ya
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Black 2001 Type S
*Eibach Pro-Kit (Waiting to be installed)
*Xephyr Cold Air Intake
*PIAA 19169 Road Lamps
*Rockford 500a2 [FOR SALE]
*Pioneer 12" @ 400w (x2) [FOR SALE]
*77237-SOK-A02
---Still 2 rims not scratched---
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