Light Weight Battery, anyone have one?
Blown is Best
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I personally am fond of the Odyssey batteries:
http://www.odysseybattery.com/autospecs.html
http://www.odysseybattery.com/autospecs.html
Suzuka Master
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eff that I live were it gets -30f in the winter.....no light weight fails to start low cca crap for me.
generally speaking
Plate surface area = cca capacity
plate thickness = capacity to keep delivering cca (reserve capacity)
a well designed heavy battery > than a well designed light one
generally speaking
Plate surface area = cca capacity
plate thickness = capacity to keep delivering cca (reserve capacity)
a well designed heavy battery > than a well designed light one
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Blown is Best
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,437
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From: Fresno, CA
Quoted out of another thread:
CleanCL ran the PC680MJT. I'm running the PC1200MJT and it's a boat anchor but packs tons of power.
odyssey batteries are by far the best ive seen
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc680mjt.htm
that little guy cranked my car no problem and powered an extra set of HIDs, 200w basslink, and a highly modded car. with zero dimming issues.
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc680mjt.htm
that little guy cranked my car no problem and powered an extra set of HIDs, 200w basslink, and a highly modded car. with zero dimming issues.
Blown is Best
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,437
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From: Fresno, CA
how about this one, lighter and better than the PC680?
http://shop.edoperformance.com/brail...ry-p-9136.html
http://shop.edoperformance.com/brail...ry-p-9136.html
I'm currently using a Braille B2015 Light weight battery. It weighs about 15 pounds and I've been using it steadily for almost a year now. No lights dimming, fast start-ups too. I am running the stock stereo btw.
My oem battery died and I needed more room when doing my projector retro's. I also wanted to save some weight. I forgot to weigh the oem battery but it had to be 40+ lbs.
Here's a pic of my engine bay to give you the idea of what a tiny battery looks like. I know you (op) have a TL but it should give you the idea. I tossed out the whole battery box and anything else associated. I originally had it mounted upright but these battery's can also be laid flat for turbo or s/c setups. I just think it looked better.
When ever people see it they ask whats wrong with my battery or why do I have a bike battery in my car? It's pretty funny.
My oem battery died and I needed more room when doing my projector retro's. I also wanted to save some weight. I forgot to weigh the oem battery but it had to be 40+ lbs.
Here's a pic of my engine bay to give you the idea of what a tiny battery looks like. I know you (op) have a TL but it should give you the idea. I tossed out the whole battery box and anything else associated. I originally had it mounted upright but these battery's can also be laid flat for turbo or s/c setups. I just think it looked better.
When ever people see it they ask whats wrong with my battery or why do I have a bike battery in my car? It's pretty funny.
^thanks for the pics, my engine bay looks the same, im picking up my p2r cai tomorow 
well it seems like the b2015 and the p680 are comparable. i believe i'll go with the braille, if that ever decides to crap out i'll grab the odyssey so i can see which is better
well it seems like the b2015 and the p680 are comparable. i believe i'll go with the braille, if that ever decides to crap out i'll grab the odyssey so i can see which is better
Found this, hope it'll help ppl in the future
http://www.freshalloy.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=168999
As far as I know - All the CCA for the manufacturers is done at 0F, and the CA is at 32F, all this info is off the manufacturer website.
...
READ THIS:
In BLUE are the brands whose CCA Ratings seems either off or make it hard to find their testing methods.
Deka Batteries are more than likely to be Deka ETX rebadged -- Their advirtised CCA IS PROBABLY NOT PERFOMED AT 0F.
By Brand:
Braille**:
Braille B3121 ----------CCA: 550 ---- weight: 21lb ---------------- CA: 742
Braille B2015 ----------CCA: 425 ---- weight: 15lb ---------------- CA: 574
Braille B14115 ---------CCA: 360 ---- weight: 11lb,8oz ------------ CA: 486
Braille B106 -----------CCA: 210 ---- weight: 6lb,6oz ------------- CA: 283
Westco:
Westco Miata ---------CCA: 475 ---- weight: 25lb
Deka:
Deka ETX30 -----------CCA: 370 ---- weight: 21.7lb
Deka ETX20 -----------CCA: 270 ---- weight: 15.5lb
Deka ETX18 -----------CCA: 300 ---- weight: 18lb
Deka ETX16 -----------CCA: 275 ---- weight: 17lb
Deka ETX14 -----------CCA: 200 ---- weight: 12lb
Deka ETX12 -----------CCA: 180 ---- weight: 9.4lb
Deka ETX9 -----------CCA: 120 ---- weight: 6.3lb
Odyssey:
Odyssey PC680 --------CCA: 220 --- weight: 15lb / 16lb For MJT*
Odyssey PC925/MJT ---CCA: 380 --- weight: 24lb / 26lb For MJT*
Optima:
Optima 34&34R --------CCA 800 -----weight: 37.9lb --------------- CA: 1000
Optima 37/78 ----------CCA 800 ---- weight: 38.8lb --------------- CA: 1000
Optima 75/25 ----------CCA 720 ---- weight: 33.1lb --------------- CA: 910
Optima 25&35 ---------CCA 720 ----- weight: 31.7lb --------------- CA: 910
Duralast:
Duralast 8AMU1R ------CCA: 330 ---- weight: 25lb
Marathon:
Marathon MAR-8AMU1R-CCA: 320 ---- weight: 25lb
By CCA:
Optima 34&34R --------CCA 800 -----weight: 37.9lb -------------- CA: 1000
Optima 37/78 ----------CCA 800 ---- weight: 38.8lb -------------- CA: 1000
Optima 75/25 ----------CCA 720 ---- weight: 33.1lb -------------- CA: 910
Optima 25&35 ---------CCA 720 ----- weight: 31.7lb -------------- CA: 910
Braille B3121 ----------CCA: 550 ---- weight: 21lb ---------------- CA: 742
Westco Miata ---------CCA: 475 ---- weight: 25lb
Braille B2015 ----------CCA: 425 ---- weight: 15lb ---------------- CA: 574
Odyssey PC925/MJT ---CCA: 380 ---- weight: 24lb / 26lb For MJT*
Deka ETX30 -----------CCA: 370 ---- weight: 21.7lb
Braille B14115 ---------CCA: 360 ---- weight: 11lb,8oz ------------ CA: 486
Duralast 8AMU1R ------CCA: 330 ---- weight: 25lb
Marathon MAR-8AMU1R-CCA: 320 ---- weight: 25lb
Deka ETX18 -----------CCA: 300 ---- weight: 18lb
Deka ETX16 -----------CCA: 275 ---- weight: 17lb
Deka ETX20 -----------CCA: 270 ---- weight: 15.5lb
Odyssey PC680 --------CCA: 220 ---- weight: 15lb / 16lb For MJT*
Braille B106 -----------CCA: 210 ---- weight: 6lb,6oz ------------- CA: 283
Deka ETX14 -----------CCA: 200 ---- weight: 12lb
Deka ETX12 -----------CCA: 180 ---- weight: 9.4lb
Deka ETX9 -----------CCA: 120 ---- weight: 6.3lb
By Weight:
Optima 37/78 ----------CCA 800 ---- weight: 38.8lb --------------- CA: 1000
Optima 34&34R --------CCA 800 -----weight: 37.9lb --------------- CA: 1000
Optima 75/25 ----------CCA 720 ---- weight: 33.1lb --------------- CA: 910
Optima 25&35 ---------CCA 720 ----- weight: 31.7lb --------------- CA: 910
Westco Miata ---------CCA: 475 ---- weight: 25lb
Duralast 8AMU1R ------CCA: 330 ---- weight: 25lb
Marathon MAR-8AMU1R-CCA: 320 ---- weight: 25lb
Odyssey PC925/MJT ---CCA: 380 --- weight: 24lb / 26lb For MJT*
Deka ETX30 -----------CCA: 370 ---- weight: 21.7lb
Braille B3121 ----------CCA: 550 ---- weight: 21lb ---------------- CA: 742
Braille B14115 ---------CCA: 360 ---- weight: 11lb,8oz ------------ CA: 486
Deka ETX18 -----------CCA: 300 ---- weight: 18lb
Deka ETX16 -----------CCA: 275 ---- weight: 17lb
Deka ETX20 -----------CCA: 270 ---- weight: 15.5lb
Odyssey PC680 --------CCA: 220 --- weight: 15lb / 16lb For MJT*
Braille B2015 ----------CCA: 425 ---- weight: 15lb ---------------- CA: 574
Deka ETX14 -----------CCA: 200 ---- weight: 12lb
Deka ETX12 -----------CCA: 180 ---- weight: 9.4lb
Braille B106 -----------CCA: 210 ---- weight: 6lb,6oz ------------- CA: 283
Deka ETX9 -----------CCA: 120 ---- weight: 6.3lb
More info:
Braile:
Probably Deka rebadged
**no info on website on what Temp the CCA and CA test are done at...
DEKA:
Come with M6 Thread on terminals - you will need adapter to SAE automotive Terminals.
Rebadged as BigCrank, Braille and other brands // BigCrank has cheap price .
(Proved and discussed on the vwvortex there is a whole thread about it.)
Odyssey:
*MJT: Metal Jacket + Terminals.
Also the Odysseys have battery mounting brakets avaible.
Miata Battery:
Duralast rates them at 330CCA, Marathon at 320CCA, Westco at 475CCA,
make what you want of this info but personally I'm not getting a Westco Battery
Made by EastPenn Mfg.
Sold under:
Marathon MAR-8AMU1R (1Year Warranty)
Westco 12V31M (4 Year Warranty)
Duralast 8AMU1R (8Year Warranty - apparently WAS avaible at autozone)
...
READ THIS:
In BLUE are the brands whose CCA Ratings seems either off or make it hard to find their testing methods.
Deka Batteries are more than likely to be Deka ETX rebadged -- Their advirtised CCA IS PROBABLY NOT PERFOMED AT 0F.
By Brand:
Braille**:
Braille B3121 ----------CCA: 550 ---- weight: 21lb ---------------- CA: 742
Braille B2015 ----------CCA: 425 ---- weight: 15lb ---------------- CA: 574
Braille B14115 ---------CCA: 360 ---- weight: 11lb,8oz ------------ CA: 486
Braille B106 -----------CCA: 210 ---- weight: 6lb,6oz ------------- CA: 283
Westco:
Westco Miata ---------CCA: 475 ---- weight: 25lb
Deka:
Deka ETX30 -----------CCA: 370 ---- weight: 21.7lb
Deka ETX20 -----------CCA: 270 ---- weight: 15.5lb
Deka ETX18 -----------CCA: 300 ---- weight: 18lb
Deka ETX16 -----------CCA: 275 ---- weight: 17lb
Deka ETX14 -----------CCA: 200 ---- weight: 12lb
Deka ETX12 -----------CCA: 180 ---- weight: 9.4lb
Deka ETX9 -----------CCA: 120 ---- weight: 6.3lb
Odyssey:
Odyssey PC680 --------CCA: 220 --- weight: 15lb / 16lb For MJT*
Odyssey PC925/MJT ---CCA: 380 --- weight: 24lb / 26lb For MJT*
Optima:
Optima 34&34R --------CCA 800 -----weight: 37.9lb --------------- CA: 1000
Optima 37/78 ----------CCA 800 ---- weight: 38.8lb --------------- CA: 1000
Optima 75/25 ----------CCA 720 ---- weight: 33.1lb --------------- CA: 910
Optima 25&35 ---------CCA 720 ----- weight: 31.7lb --------------- CA: 910
Duralast:
Duralast 8AMU1R ------CCA: 330 ---- weight: 25lb
Marathon:
Marathon MAR-8AMU1R-CCA: 320 ---- weight: 25lb
By CCA:
Optima 34&34R --------CCA 800 -----weight: 37.9lb -------------- CA: 1000
Optima 37/78 ----------CCA 800 ---- weight: 38.8lb -------------- CA: 1000
Optima 75/25 ----------CCA 720 ---- weight: 33.1lb -------------- CA: 910
Optima 25&35 ---------CCA 720 ----- weight: 31.7lb -------------- CA: 910
Braille B3121 ----------CCA: 550 ---- weight: 21lb ---------------- CA: 742
Westco Miata ---------CCA: 475 ---- weight: 25lb
Braille B2015 ----------CCA: 425 ---- weight: 15lb ---------------- CA: 574
Odyssey PC925/MJT ---CCA: 380 ---- weight: 24lb / 26lb For MJT*
Deka ETX30 -----------CCA: 370 ---- weight: 21.7lb
Braille B14115 ---------CCA: 360 ---- weight: 11lb,8oz ------------ CA: 486
Duralast 8AMU1R ------CCA: 330 ---- weight: 25lb
Marathon MAR-8AMU1R-CCA: 320 ---- weight: 25lb
Deka ETX18 -----------CCA: 300 ---- weight: 18lb
Deka ETX16 -----------CCA: 275 ---- weight: 17lb
Deka ETX20 -----------CCA: 270 ---- weight: 15.5lb
Odyssey PC680 --------CCA: 220 ---- weight: 15lb / 16lb For MJT*
Braille B106 -----------CCA: 210 ---- weight: 6lb,6oz ------------- CA: 283
Deka ETX14 -----------CCA: 200 ---- weight: 12lb
Deka ETX12 -----------CCA: 180 ---- weight: 9.4lb
Deka ETX9 -----------CCA: 120 ---- weight: 6.3lb
By Weight:
Optima 37/78 ----------CCA 800 ---- weight: 38.8lb --------------- CA: 1000
Optima 34&34R --------CCA 800 -----weight: 37.9lb --------------- CA: 1000
Optima 75/25 ----------CCA 720 ---- weight: 33.1lb --------------- CA: 910
Optima 25&35 ---------CCA 720 ----- weight: 31.7lb --------------- CA: 910
Westco Miata ---------CCA: 475 ---- weight: 25lb
Duralast 8AMU1R ------CCA: 330 ---- weight: 25lb
Marathon MAR-8AMU1R-CCA: 320 ---- weight: 25lb
Odyssey PC925/MJT ---CCA: 380 --- weight: 24lb / 26lb For MJT*
Deka ETX30 -----------CCA: 370 ---- weight: 21.7lb
Braille B3121 ----------CCA: 550 ---- weight: 21lb ---------------- CA: 742
Braille B14115 ---------CCA: 360 ---- weight: 11lb,8oz ------------ CA: 486
Deka ETX18 -----------CCA: 300 ---- weight: 18lb
Deka ETX16 -----------CCA: 275 ---- weight: 17lb
Deka ETX20 -----------CCA: 270 ---- weight: 15.5lb
Odyssey PC680 --------CCA: 220 --- weight: 15lb / 16lb For MJT*
Braille B2015 ----------CCA: 425 ---- weight: 15lb ---------------- CA: 574
Deka ETX14 -----------CCA: 200 ---- weight: 12lb
Deka ETX12 -----------CCA: 180 ---- weight: 9.4lb
Braille B106 -----------CCA: 210 ---- weight: 6lb,6oz ------------- CA: 283
Deka ETX9 -----------CCA: 120 ---- weight: 6.3lb
More info:
Braile:
Probably Deka rebadged
**no info on website on what Temp the CCA and CA test are done at...
DEKA:
Come with M6 Thread on terminals - you will need adapter to SAE automotive Terminals.
Rebadged as BigCrank, Braille and other brands // BigCrank has cheap price .
(Proved and discussed on the vwvortex there is a whole thread about it.)
Odyssey:
*MJT: Metal Jacket + Terminals.
Also the Odysseys have battery mounting brakets avaible.
Miata Battery:
Duralast rates them at 330CCA, Marathon at 320CCA, Westco at 475CCA,
make what you want of this info but personally I'm not getting a Westco Battery
Made by EastPenn Mfg.
Sold under:
Marathon MAR-8AMU1R (1Year Warranty)
Westco 12V31M (4 Year Warranty)
Duralast 8AMU1R (8Year Warranty - apparently WAS avaible at autozone)
did i just find a deal?? it says its the b2015, but its the carbon fiber one for the same price ive seen the regular ones
http://www.amazon.com/Braille-Batter...7920437&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Braille-Batter...7920437&sr=8-1
did i just find a deal?? it says its the b2015, but its the carbon fiber one for the same price ive seen the regular ones
http://www.amazon.com/Braille-Batter...7920437&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Braille-Batter...7920437&sr=8-1
However if you look closely the carbon fiber battery is part # B2015C. The non Carbon is #B2015.
I would have went for the carbon wrapped one but it was almost another $100 for just another pound off in a weight and a carbon box. In retrospect now that I'm captian carbon fiber with my cf hood and trunk I probably would have dished out the extra coin to add to the theme. Ohh well maybe next time around.
Off-topic: How'd you get your hands on a P2R CAI? Black market? He only made like a dozen of those for sale. If you remember I was the 6MT test rat for that intake and did a before and after dyno. Seen here:https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=p2r+cai I'm sure I could have gotten a bit better #'s if it hadn't been so hot on the day of testing.
Your going to love it btw. The motor sounds great and really loves more air.
Ohh one more thing I forgot to mention about maintaining a light weight battery: If you don't plan on drving the car for like a week, or are laying the car up for the winter a battery charger is a must. Preferably the type of charger that knows when to shut off when the battery is fully charged and not over-charge it etc...
I did much research on these batteries before I purchased mine. (from jegs btw) The TL diet guy inspired me. I got confused aswell and thought I had found a deal like that. They seem to use the same description and image when listing both batteries.
However if you look closely the carbon fiber battery is part # B2015C. The non Carbon is #B2015.
I would have went for the carbon wrapped one but it was almost another $100 for just another pound off in a weight and a carbon box. In retrospect now that I'm captian carbon fiber with my cf hood and trunk I probably would have dished out the extra coin to add to the theme. Ohh well maybe next time around.
Off-topic: How'd you get your hands on a P2R CAI? Black market? He only made like a dozen of those for sale. If you remember I was the 6MT test rat for that intake and did a before and after dyno. Seen here:https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=p2r+cai I'm sure I could have gotten a bit better #'s if it hadn't been so hot on the day of testing.
Your going to love it btw. The motor sounds great and really loves more air.
Ohh one more thing I forgot to mention about maintaining a light weight battery: If you don't plan on drving the car for like a week, or are laying the car up for the winter a battery charger is a must. Preferably the type of charger that knows when to shut off when the battery is fully charged and not over-charge it etc...
However if you look closely the carbon fiber battery is part # B2015C. The non Carbon is #B2015.
I would have went for the carbon wrapped one but it was almost another $100 for just another pound off in a weight and a carbon box. In retrospect now that I'm captian carbon fiber with my cf hood and trunk I probably would have dished out the extra coin to add to the theme. Ohh well maybe next time around.
Off-topic: How'd you get your hands on a P2R CAI? Black market? He only made like a dozen of those for sale. If you remember I was the 6MT test rat for that intake and did a before and after dyno. Seen here:https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=p2r+cai I'm sure I could have gotten a bit better #'s if it hadn't been so hot on the day of testing.
Your going to love it btw. The motor sounds great and really loves more air.
Ohh one more thing I forgot to mention about maintaining a light weight battery: If you don't plan on drving the car for like a week, or are laying the car up for the winter a battery charger is a must. Preferably the type of charger that knows when to shut off when the battery is fully charged and not over-charge it etc...
as for the intake, Sean is a friend of a friend so i got a good deal for it. if you wave the money at him he'll make whatever you want, since the only thing he keeps in stock are the spacers and whatnot. he'd probably make another set of his equal length headers
just bought the Braille B2015 for 146.66!! its at autoanything.com, its already free shipping and theres a 10% off promo for new customers, the promo code is "welcome"
To answer your question:
Your right in that pic above I do not have the battery bracket/mount on there. When laying the battery flat the j-hooks that come with the battery mount kit have to be cut down some. Then you must bend it so it will grab under the hole on the battery platform. The reason is the threads on the j-hooks don't go down long enough to properly tighten down the battery when it's flat. The pic was taken while I was doing that... I had it wedged in there for the time being.
When mounting the battery upright the bracket fits but just barely. I didn't like it because of the way it looked, and it was stretching the ground wire too much. Braille was nice enough to have 4 places to screw in the supplied terminals so you can mount the battery a variety of ways. Let me know if you need any help when installing yours.
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