Laser Jammer
Laser Jammer
Just got back from testing the Blinder M-10 laser jammer. Damn, did this thing work great!!! A friend of mine is a local cop and he asked the senior officer, who certifies all the officers with the speed guns, to test the jammer. He was happy to.
It was overcast (no sun, which might effect it's performance if it was sunny), temps in the 50s. I forgot to ask the type of gun he was using but he did say it was the newest model out. Setup was in a large movie theatre parking lot, about 1000 feet long. Small turn before I was heading straight at him. The first test was a complete success. The jammer blocked it all the way to the gun. The second test, as I made the small turn towards him, there was dip that only exposed the roof of the car and not the jammers. He was able to get a hit off the roof for a second until the jammers cleared the dip. Jammed all the way to the gun. This was real word testing b/c in CT, no citation can be given over 1000', has to be under. It clearly worked. I've very happy. Now if I could come up with a way to keep the lenses clean from inside the car it would be perfect!! One laser ticket would cover the costs of the unit $330. The cop was so cool about it. He said, "Hell, it's legal, go for it. I wouldn't care if you jammed me. I'm still getting paid and there lots of fish in the pond!" An excellent attitude IMO. This is a definite must have.
It was overcast (no sun, which might effect it's performance if it was sunny), temps in the 50s. I forgot to ask the type of gun he was using but he did say it was the newest model out. Setup was in a large movie theatre parking lot, about 1000 feet long. Small turn before I was heading straight at him. The first test was a complete success. The jammer blocked it all the way to the gun. The second test, as I made the small turn towards him, there was dip that only exposed the roof of the car and not the jammers. He was able to get a hit off the roof for a second until the jammers cleared the dip. Jammed all the way to the gun. This was real word testing b/c in CT, no citation can be given over 1000', has to be under. It clearly worked. I've very happy. Now if I could come up with a way to keep the lenses clean from inside the car it would be perfect!! One laser ticket would cover the costs of the unit $330. The cop was so cool about it. He said, "Hell, it's legal, go for it. I wouldn't care if you jammed me. I'm still getting paid and there lots of fish in the pond!" An excellent attitude IMO. This is a definite must have.
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Wonderfull... so when its cloudy and overcast, you won't get caught speeding. Try it out on a sunny day.
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Well, it will also effect the gun in the same way. Glare is glare whether it's the cop shooting and also has to receive back a singal or the jammer which just has to receive and transmit noise.
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So negative....
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Neech:
. . . Just got back from testing the Blinder M-10 laser jammer. Damn, did this thing work great!!! A friend of mine is a local cop and he asked the senior officer, who certifies all the officers with the speed guns, to test the jammer. He was happy to. . .
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. . . Just got back from testing the Blinder M-10 laser jammer. Damn, did this thing work great!!! A friend of mine is a local cop and he asked the senior officer, who certifies all the officers with the speed guns, to test the jammer. He was happy to. . .
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My hat's off to you; I've been waiting for someone to plunk down the dough for one of these things and test it out.
Hope you don't mind a few questions:
1.) Did you consider any of the other laser jammers before buying your "Blinder?" What made you pick that one?
2.) How many jammers and where are they placed. They may be legal in CT, but not any more in CA, so a stealth install is required.

3.) Do you get an audible warning when being lased?
4. Can you turn off the jammer at will. For example, say you get lased - audible alarm alerts you - you slow down - you turn off the jammer and allow the cop to lase you going the speed limit.
Would this scenario possible with your set up?Rock on!
. . . And thanks.
This is what is said about the laser jammer:
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At the moment when you hear the BLINDER warning signal, you must at once:
1.Slow down if you are speeding
2.Switch off the BLINDER
In that way you will allow the police to get a clear speed measurement without making any attention. Sometimes the police need two or tree shoots before getting a usable speed measurement. Therefore turn off the BLINDER within a few seconds, and nobody suspect that something is wrong!
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Why do you suppose they say this?
Can we say obstruction? 
For me jury is still out because of the "over the hill" or "around the bend" problem. Otherwise, it looks good.
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At the moment when you hear the BLINDER warning signal, you must at once:
1.Slow down if you are speeding
2.Switch off the BLINDER
In that way you will allow the police to get a clear speed measurement without making any attention. Sometimes the police need two or tree shoots before getting a usable speed measurement. Therefore turn off the BLINDER within a few seconds, and nobody suspect that something is wrong!
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Why do you suppose they say this?
Can we say obstruction? 
For me jury is still out because of the "over the hill" or "around the bend" problem. Otherwise, it looks good.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kensteele:
For me jury is still out because of the "over the hill" or "around the bend" problem. Otherwise, it looks good.
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For me jury is still out because of the "over the hill" or "around the bend" problem. Otherwise, it looks good.
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I understand your first point, but I'm waiting to hear if the Blinder alows for this kind of tactic.
From what it seems, the laser jammer works on line of sight. If this is true, it's rarely gonna work because most laser traps (at least the one's here in KC) have the cops positioned just over the top of a hill or just around a corner, out of the line of sight.
That means as soon as you crest, parts of your car will come into view gradually and those parts are vulnerable to laser fire. Does this make sense?
If a cops is around the bend and you are rounding the bend speeding, the cop (just like with radar) is going to hit you the minute he can see any part of your car otherwise if he waits to get a license plate hit, you have time to slow down.
I take that back, about half the laser traps are on long straight aways, too. I see about 1 laser trap a month on average(over the past 2 years here in KC). On that long straight away, you have cars in front of you and behind you. The laser will target different cars as they approach, not waiting for the lead car to pass or even to get out of the way. Left lane and right lane alike. Will the jammer work amidst traffic?
These are real life situations....not 1000' runs in a wide open parking lot.
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That means as soon as you crest, parts of your car will come into view gradually and those parts are vulnerable to laser fire. Does this make sense?
If a cops is around the bend and you are rounding the bend speeding, the cop (just like with radar) is going to hit you the minute he can see any part of your car otherwise if he waits to get a license plate hit, you have time to slow down.
I take that back, about half the laser traps are on long straight aways, too. I see about 1 laser trap a month on average(over the past 2 years here in KC). On that long straight away, you have cars in front of you and behind you. The laser will target different cars as they approach, not waiting for the lead car to pass or even to get out of the way. Left lane and right lane alike. Will the jammer work amidst traffic?
These are real life situations....not 1000' runs in a wide open parking lot.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mercury:
Can you use a jammer and say tyhe V1 in conjunction???
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Can you use a jammer and say tyhe V1 in conjunction???
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kensteele:
From what it seems, the laser jammer works on line of sight. If this is true, it's rarely gonna work because most laser traps (at least the one's here in KC) have the cops positioned just over the top of a hill or just around a corner, out of the line of sight.
That means as soon as you crest, parts of your car will come into view gradually and those parts are vulnerable to laser fire. Does this make sense?
If a cops is around the bend and you are rounding the bend speeding, the cop (just like with radar) is going to hit you the minute he can see any part of your car otherwise if he waits to get a license plate hit, you have time to slow down.
I take that back, about half the laser traps are on long straight aways, too. I see about 1 laser trap a month on average(over the past 2 years here in KC). On that long straight away, you have cars in front of you and behind you. The laser will target different cars as they approach, not waiting for the lead car to pass or even to get out of the way. Left lane and right lane alike. Will the jammer work amidst traffic?
These are real life situations....not 1000' runs in a wide open parking lot.
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From what it seems, the laser jammer works on line of sight. If this is true, it's rarely gonna work because most laser traps (at least the one's here in KC) have the cops positioned just over the top of a hill or just around a corner, out of the line of sight.
That means as soon as you crest, parts of your car will come into view gradually and those parts are vulnerable to laser fire. Does this make sense?
If a cops is around the bend and you are rounding the bend speeding, the cop (just like with radar) is going to hit you the minute he can see any part of your car otherwise if he waits to get a license plate hit, you have time to slow down.
I take that back, about half the laser traps are on long straight aways, too. I see about 1 laser trap a month on average(over the past 2 years here in KC). On that long straight away, you have cars in front of you and behind you. The laser will target different cars as they approach, not waiting for the lead car to pass or even to get out of the way. Left lane and right lane alike. Will the jammer work amidst traffic?
These are real life situations....not 1000' runs in a wide open parking lot.
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I'm not saying that a laser cop isn't going to hide somewhere, but I think the "around the corner / hill cresting strategy is more of an instant-on radar technique that works well because you are isolated from other cars and vulnerable. The cop doesn't aim the radar, he just flicks a switch to turn it on.
With the pin point acuracy of the lasergun's heads-up-display, the cop doesn't have to worry about his reading being messsed up by traffic, but he does have to aim the laser because the shotgun approach doesn't work anymore. As a result, he aims at something that makes a good target.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Water Rabbit:
Okay, I understand what you're saying. The thing is, in actual practice the cops, are trained to aim the laser first at your front license plate, and if that doesn't register (or you don't have one) at a headlight or the grill.
I'm not saying that a laser cop isn't going to hide somewhere, but I think the "around the corner / hill cresting strategy is more of an instant-on radar technique that works well because you are isolated from other cars and vulnerable. The cop doesn't aim the radar, he just flicks a switch to turn it on.
With the pin point acuracy of the lasergun's heads-up-display, the cop doesn't have to worry about his reading being messsed up by traffic, but he does have to aim the laser because the shotgun approach doesn't work anymore. As a result, he aims at something that makes a good target.
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Okay, I understand what you're saying. The thing is, in actual practice the cops, are trained to aim the laser first at your front license plate, and if that doesn't register (or you don't have one) at a headlight or the grill.
I'm not saying that a laser cop isn't going to hide somewhere, but I think the "around the corner / hill cresting strategy is more of an instant-on radar technique that works well because you are isolated from other cars and vulnerable. The cop doesn't aim the radar, he just flicks a switch to turn it on.
With the pin point acuracy of the lasergun's heads-up-display, the cop doesn't have to worry about his reading being messsed up by traffic, but he does have to aim the laser because the shotgun approach doesn't work anymore. As a result, he aims at something that makes a good target.
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Remember that kensteele? Anyway, in my State, Radar has been band for over 8 years, and in that time, we have had nothing but laser. 70% of the time it is an ambush trap like kensteele described. Over a hill, or around a bend, or curve in the road. It is easiest for them this way. The Police, and manufacturer of the Laser recomend they target a car from 700-1000 feet. All they do is move about 700-1000 after the hill crest, or bend, and set up shop. As soon as they see a car at that point, they are well within the recomended target zone, and you have little chance with a detector. The Jammer will buy you time though, but according to some test, the blinder did not have that good off axis jamming. If the car was wide enough, and they hit the edge of your headlight, in some test the blinder did not even know it was being hit by laser. Still better then nothing though. You may want to be able to turn that blinder off if it does not have the ablity to auto turn off after 5, or so seconds of jamming. Jamming Police for a long time, and they will know they are being jammed. Especially if you jam him right to the gun itself. I know people have been pulled over anyway. No speeding ticket, by some extra tickets for no front plate, or any other thing the cop can find.The best way is to jam them just long enough to slow down to a good speed, then stop jamming them, and let them target you. That way you are OK, and he does not get too suspicious. Well, at least that is the way it is in my State, and remember, we use laser exclusively for over 8 years now.
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I just sold my M-10 on E-bay. Not much use for it here in Cali. I havent heard from the winner on my V1 though. It is true the Blinder is the best. Saved me 2 times in my travel's across America.
Chris K. Last time I was in Hawaii they where using unmarked car's instead of radar/laser?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CRAZEDLUNI:
I just sold my M-10 on E-bay. Not much use for it here in Cali. I havent heard from the winner on my V1 though. It is true the Blinder is the best. Saved me 2 times in my travel's across America.
Chris K. Last time I was in Hawaii they where using unmarked car's instead of radar/laser?
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I just sold my M-10 on E-bay. Not much use for it here in Cali. I havent heard from the winner on my V1 though. It is true the Blinder is the best. Saved me 2 times in my travel's across America.
Chris K. Last time I was in Hawaii they where using unmarked car's instead of radar/laser?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CRAZEDLUNI:
Chris K. Last time I was in Hawaii they where using unmarked car's instead of radar/laser?
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Chris K. Last time I was in Hawaii they where using unmarked car's instead of radar/laser?
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That is true. Most of the time, the Motercycle Detail cops get the Laser, and traffic dutty. We have special solo bike officers whoes primary job is speeding tickets, and traffic vilolations. Occatioanally, usually late at night the marked police cars will be shooting laser also in key areas. Not too long ago the Police started their Unmarked cars patrol. They pretty much use any car out there, and patrol the huighways, clock a speeder, or unsafe driver, then radio in to a marked car. Alsokeep in mind that the officers can use their own private cars for on duty police work. I've seen almost all types of SUVs, and and the best ones are the Acura TL, and Camery Solara. Then you have the usual Mustangs, Camaros, Imapala, and such. Try spotting an unmarked on duty police officer driving 99-00 TL, and late model Camery Solara onthe road
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ChrisK:
kensteele is right. The longer the Police department has laser to use, the better they get at it. I remember a while ago kensteele and I were posting on why his laser detector was working so well, and why it hardly worked for me.
Remember that kensteele? Anyway, in my State, Radar has been band for over 8 years, and in that time, we have had nothing but laser. 70% of the time it is an ambush trap like kensteele described. Over a hill, or around a bend, or curve in the road. It is easiest for them this way. The Police, and manufacturer of the Laser recomend they target a car from 700-1000 feet. All they do is move about 700-1000 after the hill crest, or bend, and set up shop. As soon as they see a car at that point, they are well within the recomended target zone, and you have little chance with a detector. The Jammer will buy you time though, but according to some test, the blinder did not have that good off axis jamming. If the car was wide enough, and they hit the edge of your headlight, in some test the blinder did not even know it was being hit by laser. Still better then nothing though. You may want to be able to turn that blinder off if it does not have the ablity to auto turn off after 5, or so seconds of jamming. Jamming Police for a long time, and they will know they are being jammed. Especially if you jam him right to the gun itself. I know people have been pulled over anyway. No speeding ticket, by some extra tickets for no front plate, or any other thing the cop can find.
The best way is to jam them just long enough to slow down to a good speed, then stop jamming them, and let them target you. That way you are OK, and he does not get too suspicious. Well, at least that is the way it is in my State, and remember, we use laser exclusively for over 8 years now.
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kensteele is right. The longer the Police department has laser to use, the better they get at it. I remember a while ago kensteele and I were posting on why his laser detector was working so well, and why it hardly worked for me.
Remember that kensteele? Anyway, in my State, Radar has been band for over 8 years, and in that time, we have had nothing but laser. 70% of the time it is an ambush trap like kensteele described. Over a hill, or around a bend, or curve in the road. It is easiest for them this way. The Police, and manufacturer of the Laser recomend they target a car from 700-1000 feet. All they do is move about 700-1000 after the hill crest, or bend, and set up shop. As soon as they see a car at that point, they are well within the recomended target zone, and you have little chance with a detector. The Jammer will buy you time though, but according to some test, the blinder did not have that good off axis jamming. If the car was wide enough, and they hit the edge of your headlight, in some test the blinder did not even know it was being hit by laser. Still better then nothing though. You may want to be able to turn that blinder off if it does not have the ablity to auto turn off after 5, or so seconds of jamming. Jamming Police for a long time, and they will know they are being jammed. Especially if you jam him right to the gun itself. I know people have been pulled over anyway. No speeding ticket, by some extra tickets for no front plate, or any other thing the cop can find.The best way is to jam them just long enough to slow down to a good speed, then stop jamming them, and let them target you. That way you are OK, and he does not get too suspicious. Well, at least that is the way it is in my State, and remember, we use laser exclusively for over 8 years now.
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Keep us posted as to when you recieve that first ticket. Over the years I have heard the same thing over and over again. "Officer you couldn't have gotten me, I have a very expensive radar/laser/newfandangled piece of equipment on board. In your case you'll probably get hit from behind as your going away. I'm afraid to say you may be another driving operating under a false sence of security. Good luck.
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Believe me, I take no sense of security from any of these devices, V1, M-10. They just add to what I call a developed sense of what's ahead/what to expect. Nothing is better than expecting the worst of what is possible around that next corner or hill.
From what I've seen in CT only, the cops do wait until the have the plate or headlight in view and target that. The fact that I have silver car (reflects better than say black) and the fact that the cop knew I was coming and was transmitting before he saw me added to the return he got before the jammer came into view. Nothing is 100% but all I need is that one jam which locks his gun, forces him to clear the error and re-sight me for me to slow down and shut off the jammer.
Another problem here is the state police like to perform their true speed traps where one cop will sit atop an entrance ramp hitting cars from behind as they pass and radioing to waiting troopers ahead. That sucks and would require a jammer in back. Aside from the plate, I can't imagine a place to mount the jammer.
So stray reflection are possible, of course, but it is better than nothing!!
From what I've seen in CT only, the cops do wait until the have the plate or headlight in view and target that. The fact that I have silver car (reflects better than say black) and the fact that the cop knew I was coming and was transmitting before he saw me added to the return he got before the jammer came into view. Nothing is 100% but all I need is that one jam which locks his gun, forces him to clear the error and re-sight me for me to slow down and shut off the jammer.
Another problem here is the state police like to perform their true speed traps where one cop will sit atop an entrance ramp hitting cars from behind as they pass and radioing to waiting troopers ahead. That sucks and would require a jammer in back. Aside from the plate, I can't imagine a place to mount the jammer.
So stray reflection are possible, of course, but it is better than nothing!!
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