mretif

I was wondering if anyone had ECSTA Supra 712 235/45/wr17 and if you liked them because my stock tires are gone.

mattg

i have 235/40-17 and i like them alot. great tire for the money. i paid $550 installed w/ 100% road hazard warranty from americas tire.

Rescuer

i have 225/45/17's, i'll get 235 soon

mretif

Are they a good choice?
How bad does the speedo get off?

mattg

i would guess my speedo is off 1 or 2 mph, maybe the difference between a new set of tires and a worn set. the 45 series is prolly a more rational choice but the 235/45's sidewall looks so huge to me. 225/45 is a good choice imo.

mretif

I was looking at the spec and it says that the 235/45 are for 7.5-9 in rims. but they will fit on the stock rims?

mattg

well, since many members here have them on there cars, i would say yes.

BlueCLS6

I have these tires on my Accord in 205/55-15 size and I like them a lot, great tire for the price. They are very quiet too (don't screech) unlike these damn Michelin's! Our stock tires (215/50-17) have an overall height of 25.46".
225/45-17 = 24.97" = -1.9% off
235/40-17 = 24.40" = -4.2% off
A better match would be a 235/45-17 = 25.33" = -0.5% off. Unless you want the shorter wheel for less gearing of whatever...

Dom418

Several Members have this tire... seems to be rated as the best choice for the money... but it's no Toyo.

Red Rider

If you can, spend the extra and get Toyos.

mretif

Right now i am paying for college so i am a little strapped for cash.

RaleighNC

I like 'em.

My advice is to get an alignment FIRST if you are installing them on stock rims. Most tire shops can't mount the alignment tool because the rim guard is too thick.

My rims are scratched because they mounted the tires then tried to align.

Titand19

Kumho's are good especially for the price. I would get them if you are on a tight budget.

louisn

Don't forget the sumitomos+. Tirerack $89.00 and SEars matched that price based on their price matching policy. Z rated-360 traedwear--quiet-great grip. Out the door with roadhazard, lifetime balancing and rotation, and tax=$500. Plus Sears are everywhere if a problem develops.

JZ

Definately a good tire for the money. They are not as sticky as some other high performance tires but the tread life on them is great.

I have about 20000 miles on mine and there is little wear compared to the Potenza RE730s that I had that were gone in 20000 miles.

Chief F1 Fan

I like them a lot, I have 18"s and they are infinitely better than stock tires. Not only that, but they're cheaper as well.

mretif

I talked to someone at discount tire and they said that these tires cannot be installed on my stock rims. But is this true

shaHn78

Some of those guys need to be flipping burgers somewhere...

I asked one guy working there which tires he recommended and he actually told me our stock michelins are the BEST and no tires is better.

Hmmm i'm pretty sure he was behind the counter and not cleaning the floors there

mretif

that is what i thought also

mattg

americas/discount tire installed mine

Mike

JZ, will you be buying them again? How noisy are they?

oce01acura32cl

will 235/40/18 fit on our cars? The Kumho ECSTA Supra of course..

Goby202

how are the tires at full throtle off the line, to they stick real well?

dustbuster4

I have the Kumho ECSTA Supra 712's in 225/40/18 on my 1st Gen CL, and love them!

JZ

One really nice thing about these is that they are not noisy at all. The Potenzas got very noisy about 1/2 way through their life but the kumhos are silent!

I think if I were looking again I might take a peek at the new Kumho MX/s that just came out. They look pretty tight and are likely more sticky than the Ecstas.

But, for the money, you still can't beat the Ecstas.

Mike

Cool...right now the MX is $131 vs. 95 for the 712s @Tirerack in the 235/45-17. Hmmm...

mretif

today i got a call from tire rack and they said that the 235-45 will not fit on stock rims.

Mike

I had toyo 235/45s on my stock rims for a month or two.

mretif

They said that they would rather not sell them to me but i will give them a call back today and tell them that they do. Thanks

EricL

Honda got a little jab over the "Michelin Energy MXV4s (similar to MXM4s) in a number of qualities and Honda said they chose the MXV4s (IMO, after the 800000000 questions: "Why don't you put some stickier tires on your Accords/CLs/TLs/etc..."

50K road life
All-Season
Low rolling resistance.


They even work "ok" on some kinds of surfaces and get another 2-3 MPG vs. my "stickies" (and it's not the width).

Too bad they squeal like piggies, are hard to find/out-of-stock (sometimes), expensive and are less than sticky on a number of road surfaces...

EricL

Depends on the make, brand, and model of tire. All 235/45-17s are not identical...

cforez

http://www.kumhousa.com/pages/pcr/712specs.htm

For the Kumho 712, 235/45/17, 7.5" rim is the minimum recommended width (8.0" is ideal). If I remember correctly, CL-S rims are only 7.0" wide.

EricL

A lot of people think the "measuring" width (that center figure) is optimal. (It can be, but doesn't have to be).

That center figure is the "measuring rim width", and that size rim is used to derive the section width and other specs (see one of the tire rack and/or other spec sheets). People assume that that center value is the optimum rim size and this is not always the case.

The minimum value can be bumped, depending on situation. A lot of the 235/45-17s will all show that same 7.5" minimum width. However, depending on the "EXACT" tire, there are some 235/45-17s that fit just right and others that can be a "problem".

The Toyo T1S 235/45-17 on the stock 2001-2002 rims are a pain in the ass to align on some machines.

And

BMW and other manufacturers have put tires on (at times) that required a rim width that was 1/2" greater than supplied...

It depends...