TheWeez

The parts required to swap in a 6-speed MT would run you almost as much as getting the auto rebuilt.

Rapture

I know. And that's just the parts, probably not the parts + labor (if I get a shop to do it)

Meh, there's a few shops around here I could look into. They might be willing to do it.

Rapture

Wait, I guess I missed that you said "rebuilt" instead of "replaced".... So would that be around $2.5k ? If so, then that's cheaper than I thought...

Rajca

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the dealer sends out the broken trans to get rebuilt and give u a new rebuilt one. while ur broken one is getting rebuilt and ready for a diff car.
manual swap should cost anywhere from 3-4.5k depending on what parts u get (upgrade), and new/used and hook ups

friesm2000

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to try and help it more understandable for the dealer (or independent shop if they get a honda tranny) from rajca post

normally the dealer has one in stock (i know the local honda dealer geneally has 2 in stock, and they sell withen a week or two)

the one that the dealer has in stock is from another car, but it has been sent to honda to be rebuilt, so it is a freshly rebuilt tranny
but anyways the dealer will pull your bad tranny out then put the one that is in stock in, then give you back your car (you only have to wait for them to swap out the trannies, and not rebuild yours also)
then they send your old bad tranny back to honda to be rebuilt to be put into another car

Rapture

Well actually when I said "replaced" I meant replace with a new transmission. I know rebuild = like 2-3k and replace with a new one = closer to 4k.... right? So if I wanted to be able to keep this car as long as I could, would a swap be a good idea...? Or would a trans rebuild be so far between that it wouldn't really make much difference?

but I actually didn't know that... I remember CL-Progression saying his mechanic rebuilds it himself, so I kind of thought that's what the dealers did too.

Rajca

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dealers just replace broken parts. never rebuild anything anymore. slapping on a part is quicker and easier than rebuilding it.

friesm2000

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if a shop can rebuild it correctly (not very many shops can)(and be able to get performance mods too), then i would proably say go with that, but i would say going with a reman (replace) would proably be the easiest option and you got a 3year 36,000 nationwide warrenty with it too

i don't do pricing, so don't ask me (and i get free labour too, myself)

and alot of the techs at the dealer are not the brightest, so i would not want them rebuilding one (but also it is easier to gurentee the rebuild quality if they send them to a central rebuilding place, and not have the butchers at the stealership rebuilding them)

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i got my trans fully rebuilt for just under 2g my a master tech from Acura at his house met him through another mechanic at erin mills Acura) with ALL new gears (mine were TOAST i.e 1/2 the metal was left) new transstar tq converter (they are the best... look them up and watch their production video... amazing) (also got a new low hold gear, which is the overdrive gear i think) and new front trans mount.

so there is MUCH HOPE

Acura quoted me like 4300 or some BS!!!!!! HA

my guy saved me 2500!!! that's all my mods for FREEEE nizle haliluya

If ANY LOCAL PEOPLE need work done to their CL, TL I got ur guy!!

Rapture

wait, do you get a 3 year warranty if you get it rebuilt, or is that if you buy a completely new trans from Honda?

Rajca

iTrader: (8)

it u get a rebuilt from honda. honda doest have anymore new trans. all of their are rebuilt in the factory, so ur getting a rebuilt trans.

friesm2000

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no it is not a new trans from honda , but has been rebuilt by honda, and yes you get a 3 year, 36000 mile warrenty on it (if you want an all new tranny from honda it is like 8,000 just for the tranny)

Rajca

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^beat u to his question. hahahahahahahahahahahaha. ur getting a bit slow

Rapture

So unless I get lucky and find a good mechanic who knows what to look for in 2G CL/TL transmissions, I can look forward to spending around $4k when my trans craps out? Kinda hard to tell if people are talking me into getting the swap, or out of it.

Rajca

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yup. about 4 k at a dealership. call acura customer care first. maybe they can give u some sort of a discount

friesm2000

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you do not have to go through the dealer to get the warrenty on the trans, you can go through an independent shop, and still get the warrenty
going through an independent shop you will get the labour warrenty through them instead (cause they installed it)

Rajca

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lmao, thats a new smiley to me. hahah

Rapture

Ah, well I still have about a year and a half left on my dealer warranty. I'll sit tight until then, at least

friesm2000

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if the dealer is already going to pay for it (be it extended warrenty or goodwill), then just get it through them then

Rapture

Well the tranny is still good. Still shifts clean and smooth.

I wanted to get the swap since the reliability of these transmissions are basically like rolling dice. I'm sure the transmission will still mess up after the warranty is over.

friesm2000

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i want to do the swap too on mine, but my tranny is fine for the time being, and i know it will f*** up at some point in time (it has already pump itself dry once), so it is just a waiting game for me

Rapture

Yeah I'll still try to pump out as much life from this transmission as I can. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky like those guys who somehow got 200k from their original trans....?

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iTrader: (2)

erin mills acura where i am has them fr 4300 when I asked that's was the price w/o tax for everything

rapture that's cause they probably changed their fluid all the time, simply said. if u keep it mint from the get-go then you should be ok for some time

Rapture

Well I'm sure there have been plenty of people who tried to keep it in perfect working condition, but still got shit on down the road The way I see it, you can keep changing the fluid, but the design flaw is still there...

Rajca

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its been redesigned a bit but still sucks. better than when the first 5spd auto's came out

Rapture

So do you guys think the defect is still there? I found this on Acura's site, about the recall.....

So if my transmission takes a shit because of the same defect that plagued the first transmissions, they should replace it or fix it free of charge? Or would this only apply to the recall time period? I mean, it's the same defect, isn't it?

Rajca

iTrader: (8)

u have a 3 year 36k mile warranty on the trans.

friesm2000

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(for an honda rebuilt tranny)

where on CL-S progression 0's does not proably have a warrenty cause it was out of the guys garage, but if he did save that much money, that money can always go to replaceing the tranny again if needed (just saying)

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iTrader: (2)

that's true i do not have a warranty at all. But in my family things break right after the warranty is up anyways so warranty's are BS. and there is a catch 80% of the time also. and ur never a priority if ur warranty, ur in the WAY. and getting good work done is like rolling dice IMHO

and buddy who did my trans is a magician!! I couldn't even tell my car was worked on. Not a SPECK of oil anywhere, only way u could tell it was touches was by looking at the bolts since they obv had to be removed. oh and he had 3 nsx's in the driveway!!! 1 supercharged, 1 to be supercharged. and a porsche boxter will a 911 motor in it .
So I felt pretty damn safe letting him fix me up.

If i believed in warranties I'd have bought a new car with a warranty.

the design flaw on our transmissions is that there is not enough fluid lubrication to the clutch packs... this is due to old fluid and or a clogged internal filter. SO. the way i see it, these transmissions are simply HIGH maitenance. stay on top of the fluid/filter and u should b good.

I was reading a thread about someone who was examining the internal passageways for the fluid and they said they looked to be well sized. (not restrictive). So that would leave me to believe all these transmissions blowing up are from excessive HEAT due to fluid breakdown/bad circulation.

People think these trannies are cursed, lol they are just under-maintained, which leads to failure (call that a design flaw if u want)

Rajca

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Its all about keeping customes in thie ecnomy. If u want to have a job ur gonna take care of the customers car. The dealership doesn't have to install the trans for u. If u buy one, it will have 3/36 and get it replaced somewhere else for cheaper or urself. Replaced mine and its not hard at all

russianDude

From what my dealer told me, there is no such thing as new transmission, they simply don't make them anymore. That's pretty common thing to do for car manufactures after some point of time.

friesm2000

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yes an indepent shop can do it, and the dealer should ask the shop the mileage on the car, so they can start the warrenty from that mileage, but as said before the independent will be warrenting the labour for the install and not honda, so if you have warrenty issues you will have to pay labour unless of course you go to the same shop, or the shop is willing to pay another shop if you happen to be out of town or something

i remember years ago with honda still selling a new tranny (with a part # and price) for my old 94 accord even though it was already like 10 years old by the time i looked at it, but as said it was like 8 grand or so (so it would have been still worth it to get rebuilt if needed), but yeah after a peroid of time manufacters stop making new parts for it, and only sell rebuilt parts

or you can be like ford, 10-15 years and the car is obsolete, so they don't carry anything more for that car

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iTrader: (2)

rebuild is new yo.. str8 up.. just use the same trans case and replace everything else. done, u got urself a new trans.

just like an electric motor.. they last forever, but some of the components don't last and need to be replaced.

I rebuild electric motors and after I am done... they are brand new, they will last just as long as the new one. So.. rebuild is the way. u just need a good builder and then ur set

friesm2000

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sometimes very hard to find, and most of the time it is just easier to get the honda rebuilt one to put in, let alone most people get all warm and fuzzy inside when they have a warrenty, and it is kinda hard to beat honda's warrenty