02AV6

Everything on the list is getting installed then driveshaft follows asap . I'll find out when

mrsteve

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Sounds sweet!

02AV6

mrsteve, no driveshaft untill late Jan. early Feb. the shop is busy like there is no tomorrow

mrsteve

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I know I tried calling a few days ago asking about motor mounts and it took like 10 attempts before I could get through.


Are you still using the OEM motor mounts, radius rod bushings, etc? I could really use some polyurethane replacements to help get rid of wheel hop.

02AV6

Yep, all OEM but I will be driving like an old fart to break-in motor then I'll speed up the process

If you can't wait, ask John, maybe he knows the source (bushings) so you can call and get it faster.

mrsteve

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If you have them come up with something regarding the motor mounts/bushings, please let me know!

02AV6

02AV6

Axles update

According to my shop CLS and AV6 axles visually look the same. However, to be sure my stock (AV6) along with CLS front axles will be send to driveshaft shop to measure sometime after Jan 20. to compare. If they are absolutely the same then both AV6 and CLS guys will have single application made to withstand up to 500whp . If someone eventually needs more - no problem, just per order based.

Now, the pricing is unknown on 500whp units until they (axle shop) receive our stockers, however my mechanic shop already has a dealer license (orders regularly for Civic applications) with about 15-20% discount.

Axles made with chrome moly parts or I believe called 300M and it is one strong system for extremely fast street cars. The design uses solid torsional center bars, oversized inner tripods and race proven outer c.v. and custom outer hub’s to fit the larger spline of the new outer. This is one of the most popular systems and is track proven to last.

Hope it helps.

P.S. As far as bushings its unkown until later Jan.

scalbert

Did the installer get the IC on fine??

I cannot figure out why the fuel rail was hitting since everything is J32A2 up top.

02AV6

Yeah, I just send the PM.
The shop was able to trim the base plate for 2mm, and hopes it should be fine now. Thats is also suprise to me on fitment since it was installed on others

scalbert

I wonder if there slight enough difference in the block that change the position of the heads ever so slightly.

02AV6

the block size should be the same. The heads and injector base I used were from 01 CLS.

Well, I glad its over

mrsteve

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Sounds good on the axles and bushings.

I've postponed my IC install by about a month. I want to hook up the E-Mange for a good 3-4 weeks before the IC is installed to make sure I get that running well. I'm curious as to how much power the car will make without the IC with a little tuning.

02AV6

Would be nice if you can make DYNOS with e-Manage before and after IC.

02AV6

The engine is going in today.

Also friend @ bodyshop modified my hood and bumper.

Original 'predator' hood with the deep center pocket has to be modified since blower was rubbing and heating it up then it started cracking and eventually made a hole.

The red lines indicate the trim and modification needed).
Before:


After:


And bumper was modified to add mesh grill on the bottom

mrsteve

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That's the plan. A dyno rental is like $135 an hour. I'll have scalbert's map loaded up and then tweak it for my car while on the dyno. Shouldn't be that difficult.

I won't need the FPR re-cal kit before the IC will I?

Chaptorial

It will be nice to see if the e-manage is worth it when not running the IC. Lookin forward to seeing some numbers.

power3dfx

since we are running boost, the emanage will benefit regardless of ic or not. however, since the ic will allow for higher boost than 5.5psi, we should see more power gain through the emanage and the higher boost levels.
currently, i am more worried about destroying valuable engine components rather than gaining any extra horsepower.
the emanage should be thought of as more of a safety issue (in our scenario), not a performance one. a tuned emanaged sc cls will have more hp than a non tuned car (though it could be an insignificant amount), but the important thing is that the emanaged car will definately outlive the non tuned car.
chap, i would recommend you to do the emanage even if you are not planning on the ic. from what ive been researching and from experience of friends' boosted cars, a tune may not necessarily gain you any power, but it can allow you to get rid of any rich/lean spikes on the power curve. <----this is not only safer for the engine but will give you a much more linear power curve.
you lucky bastards get higher octance than we do in cali, so you are a little safer to begin with. but if plan on staying boosted for a while, the emanage is something to look into if you are running any higher than the standard boost pulley that comptech provides.

mrsteve

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I didn't have any spikes in my AFR when I had my car dyno'd. It was a flat 11.1:1 to 11.4:1 throughout the rpm range. I'd assume most other healthy CL-S's with the S/C and HBP are in the same range.

darrinb

thats sweet, cant wait to see some 1/4 times

02AV6

I'm going to post some more pics (BEFORE install) sometime today.

The good news - the shop almost done but swear will completely finish by the Jan. 7 since they want to leave on vacation today and come back on January 3rd. I can understand that since I'm going on vacation myself tomorrow and coming back late at night on Jan. 6th.

The bad news - I won't be able to pick up the car until either the Saturday Jan. 15th or might be even the 22nd (no storage charge) due to an immediate leave on Friday, (Jan. 7) morning for an important business trip to Italy.

kevin79925

you rich bastard! give me some of that dough please!

av6ent

Yo, rich guys driving E55 AMG, and other $80K+ cars. Him, he was study and worked his ass off to be where he's at today so no mummy and daddy help him out. But he can definately afford his shit now and works smart not hard

Alex

kevin79925

thats messed up giving me neg rep points for that.. i was just messing w him punk... i never had mommy or daddy give me shit either i left home at 17 ... i got my degree and work just as hard on my own.. with no help... im just jealous is all... dam some peeps take some things too seriously these days...

02AV6

some more preinstalled pics.

As I mentioned since front fuel rail was hitting the IC (according to installer) the shop had to remove about 2mm of metal from the IC base plate at 60-70 degree angle to sit flat. They caught me and Steve by surprise since everything is J32A2 up top and the blocks should be the same size. I doubt but maybe front fuel rail was wider then the rear (both the same length) to cause the fitment issue? Anyway,that was taken care of.

Here how they did it:




Look ma - no engine
Top view.


Bottom view.


Heat Exchangers were painted black.



I also purchased Zeitronix ZT-2 kit so I'll be ready for street testing.

I guess my boost and afr (autometer) gauges have to go.

More pics after install coming soon.

av6ent

WTF? I didn't give you neg point ... but you did punk

av6ent

Good shit, Serge. Now, hurry them up

kevin79925

ok ok whoever did do it is a punk then... didnt even put down who they were..thought it was you because of the comment below mine.. ill give you a positive as soon as it lets me to even it out. sorry about that bro.

TAG

HEY!!!

Stop spilling the info!!! J/K

But since the cat is outta the bag...

My project is still the works. I have a 3.5 block with CL-S head and the CT SC running about 5lbs of boost. I was majorly concerned with the fuel with the runs I made and didn't really check focus on HP & TQ. So regarding tuning the fuel...its off the charts as I have 370cc injectors and its running very rich...not to mention crappy. It still managed to pull over 300whp.

Why 370s?.. before the swap I was boosting 8-9lbs and running a little lean. I upgraded the CCs with higher fuel needs in mind because of displacement differences. It is a little too much... so hense the project not quite done yet

My options are basically:
1) replace the 370 with the 310 again
2) install the emanage and make the injectors a vitual 310cc flow
3) increase boost and determine fuel ratio the revisit options 1 & 2

Time will tell...

mrsteve

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Did you have to get out the Dremmel to get the injectors to work? So far no one has found injectors that will fit our cars without modification.

TAG

Not quite. The rail had to be drilled to relocated the injectors since there was a fitment issue. I was determined to re-use the RC injectors I had in my J30 engine, so no turning back on that part of the project.

ThinJim

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Hey, I know the board is looking for an update on your project, Happy New Year.

as a topic for discussion:

In regards to the m90 and the SC Comptech uses. For some reason I recall being told by nate at Comptech that they used the m45. I'm not sure on this, do you know which unit they used. I know the m45 on the eaton site is for auto's 2-3L or less, but could be used on ours for great gains. I seem to recall asking why they didn't use the m60, after some long technical explanation which i don't remember anyway but had to do with fuel and tuning. So if they did use the m45 and you were to upgrade to the m60, your gains would be respectable. Don't know for sure though which unit they told me, but pretty sure that it was the m45. M90 would be nice, but the m60 may not require any modification. the width and height are the same as the m45, but it doesnt' show what the length of the blower body is without the snout of the blower, or what the inlet size is between the two. anyone?

mrsteve

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As far as I know, the Comptech blower is the M60 or the M62


EDIT: I'm actually positive it isn't the M45. That blower is so small it would have to spin amazingly fast to produce the boost numbers we are seeing on these cars with this 3.2L motor. The 62 doesn't need to spin as fast to flow the same amount of air as the 45 would. And I really haven't heard of a 45 making more than 5 or 6 psi of boost and at least one or two members here are spinning 10psi on their Comptech units.

The desire to go beyond 10psi on our cars would require then MP blower because the 62 begins to run out of steam beyond that. I'm pretty sure on our cars the 90 could produce 15+psi at a slower rpm than then 62 spins to make 10psi. And with the larger blower you'd lose some boost response. Right now my boost spikes at 4500-5000rpm and then stays consistant to redline.

scalbert

The SC Comptech supplies is the MP62:

http://www.magnusonproducts.com/mp62.htm

scalbert

With this type of blower it is very easy to calculate the blower size/RPM required to make X boost.

02AV6

Look who's here 3.5 brotha himself
Fix da damn fuel and run the dyno again

02AV6

Hey all, Happy New Year !

I'm in Acapulco
and coming back on the 6th.

Correct, we use MP62 and as I said the MP90 is the possibility , we'll see.
If I'll be able to sneak out the business trip before the 15th then I post bunch of pics to reveal the success, however car should be done by the 7th.

Stay tune ...

02AV6

I'm in Rome now and coming back only on Jan. 28th (Friday) due to business as mentioned. Next week 3 days in Venice then Milan before going back home.

Pics time








That would be the longest 2 weeks before I reveal the pics and success.
I know its done, just have to get behind the wheel. I miss my car!

Untill the next post....

02AV6

Just to 'raise your appetite' attached are preinstalled and work in progress pics before I come back this Friday and take the completed pics on Saturday as mentioned.


Heat exchangers installed under bumper. Notice the tranny cooler hidden behind the right exchanger



And here is the my assembled engine with custom block, CLS heads/injector base, AW headers and Dr. Evil (black) before it went in .



Work in progress







Aluminum IC reservoir in the trunk. My installer offered this one since it contains brackets,



So complete pics are coming this weekend. Now, my only concern is by looking at the engine bay pics is IF my carbon fiber HOOD going to CLOSE since IC is 1" taller then our stock manifold. After my return on Friday I will be packing my hood/bumper into my van to drive over on Saturday and have it installed. I hope my 'predator' hood going to close, if not I still have the stock one just in case.

'till Saturday ...

mattg

looking good.


you must be very excited.