Ingall's Stiffy ETD mount
01-18-2010, 06:11 PM
#1
Ingall's Stiffy ETD mount
just want to let you all now that, Ingalls might be using my car, to be able to make a direct bolt-in of their stiffy mount for our cars 
so it might help solve some of those motor mount issues, especially the side ones
http://www.ingallseng.com/93051-stif...accord-v6.html
link is for the newer accords though
2g TL's thread link:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...8#post11659948
so it might help solve some of those motor mount issues, especially the side ones
http://www.ingallseng.com/93051-stif...accord-v6.html
link is for the newer accords though
2g TL's thread link:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...8#post11659948
01-18-2010, 06:44 PM
#3
Racer
Excellent news, please keep us posted!
I just did my timing belt and replaced the side mount since it was out... the old one doesn't even look too bad, but OMG what a difference good mounts make.
I just did my timing belt and replaced the side mount since it was out... the old one doesn't even look too bad, but OMG what a difference good mounts make.
01-19-2010, 12:14 AM
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Cool. Ive been running the NRG dampers front and rear for over a year, and they make a huge improvement.
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01-19-2010, 04:42 AM
#8
Racer
Seemed to me that new poly/rubber would better absorb vibrations. Also I can't imagine what else I did that would improve vibrations at idle, unless something was incorrectly torqued before and that made a difference.OMG, how do those feel?
01-19-2010, 12:34 PM
#9
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^^ Well they werent a direct drop in.
The 6 speeds have "torque dampeners" from the factory, I just used the OEM mounts and I believe the dampeners where from a Civic. Some nuts and bolts and they were.
The 6 speeds have "torque dampeners" from the factory, I just used the OEM mounts and I believe the dampeners where from a Civic. Some nuts and bolts and they were.
01-19-2010, 01:23 PM
#10
this is for the engine torque dampners, not the engine mounts i assume? How will these compare to the nrg ones ppl use from the civic. i have the civic ones but didnt install them yet. wondering if i should use ones I have or sell them and wait for these.
01-19-2010, 01:44 PM
#11
Three Wheelin'
For $200 that just seems outright like a lot of money for this type of part. Will it actually help with engine movement that much being that it is only going to be at one point on the engine and not at multiple points.
01-19-2010, 02:56 PM
#12
think leverage, with the point of rotation the motors has
this is not an exact spot, but i would say the point of rotation would be around the crankshaft/CV axles somewhere
01-19-2010, 04:11 PM
#13
Three Wheelin'
Ya, I was just adding some input in regard to the rotation of the engine like you stated. The higher on the engine that this mount is done, the more effective since the engine typically bucks towards the hood and back towards the car on hard acceleration.
I know our cars aren't putting down ridiculous amounts of power, but would putting this contraption at one point on the engine be enough to have that large of an effect?
I know our cars aren't putting down ridiculous amounts of power, but would putting this contraption at one point on the engine be enough to have that large of an effect?
01-19-2010, 04:21 PM
#14
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it is up higher, aka at the same level as the P/S pump, so it should help more so then say the NRG dampners that Civic has on his (not knocking, just using as an example)
think leverage, with the point of rotation the motors has
this is not an exact spot, but i would say the point of rotation would be around the crankshaft/CV axles somewhere
think leverage, with the point of rotation the motors has
this is not an exact spot, but i would say the point of rotation would be around the crankshaft/CV axles somewhere
However an issue Ive had with the Stiffy (no jokes) is that the mounting
brackets look a bit flimsy.
Aside from the astronomical price, I may look into this. Then again its easy enough to bend up some metal and get another $60 NRG dampener off eBay and mount it up top (which I may do).
01-19-2010, 04:48 PM
#15
I agree with that. Thats one issue I have with the NRG dampeners, they are mounted too low. But thats Hondas' doing.
However an issue Ive had with the Stiffy (no jokes) is that the mounting
brackets look a bit flimsy.
Aside from the astronomical price, I may look into this. Then again its easy enough to bend up some metal and get another $60 NRG dampener off eBay and mount it up top (which I may do).
However an issue Ive had with the Stiffy (no jokes) is that the mounting
brackets look a bit flimsy.
Aside from the astronomical price, I may look into this. Then again its easy enough to bend up some metal and get another $60 NRG dampener off eBay and mount it up top (which I may do).
<(in red), maybe i can get them to make it a little more rigidor at least the joints being in doable shear
i dont think i totally said this, but this is still very early in the process, really only emails so far, but i did call them today, and i am actually suppose to stop by their office tomorrow, for them to have a preliminary look at it
also my car has NEVER been wrecked for the front end,body work is still all origional, including paint
only the right rear quarter panel (rear bumper was part of that too) (and RR door maybe, can't remember) that has had any type of significant damage to it, even then, it was just someone changing lanes, that somehow did not see the previous owner there (saw the damage afterwards myself at the bodyshop it was at)
so still the origional chassis alignment/specs on it
02-02-2010, 03:52 PM
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02-02-2010, 07:19 PM
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Theyre from a 92-95 Civic/94-01 Integra. Grab some nuts and bolts and replace the stock "dampeners".
02-04-2010, 09:40 PM
#23
another update: dropped off my stock strut top, off at them (easier to work off, then just measurements with pictures), and i showed him my torn side mount, and he was like 
to how torn it was (i don't think he expected it to be torn like that)
to how torn it was (i don't think he expected it to be torn like that)
, only a baseline though), almost did not want to though, due to the f***ing snow we are getting right now 
02-18-2010, 11:31 PM
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Sweet. I may pick one of these up just for another secure point to keep the engine from torqueing.
If they do push ahead with these, try and get them to do a group buy for us
And if they need a field tester, Im always available
If they do push ahead with these, try and get them to do a group buy for us
And if they need a field tester, Im always available
03-18-2010, 09:15 AM
#27
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I need to finish fabing my bracket for 2 of these.
03-18-2010, 07:44 PM
#28
On vacation this week, so not much has been done this week, but will probably contact them next week for the test fitmit, but I have no idea when they would be coming out with it though, since they are just using my car for fitmit, and I have nothing to do with the actual selling of it, so no idea of when it would be for sale 
07-02-2010, 04:03 PM
#30
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Find out when it goes into production!! Also find out if they want to do introductory pricing
07-10-2010, 10:14 AM
#32
yes, i did pick it up , had to figure out a couple of things first, with the design (mainly if they can get the low side A/C port still accesible for service with out removing the mount (it clears no issue, you just can't get a coupler on it currently), then also try and clear up the instructions a little bit better, with more pictures and such
as far as pictures, heres a teaser
i am not going to actually put one out, till it is actually out, which is actually suppose (will happen probably, but stuff does come up though unforseen)to be around the end of the month
as far as it working
loving it, and it seriously knocks down that engine movement with only stock mounts otherwise; increased noise, a little bit, but nothing bad though, but i do have it almost maxed out though 
, but you if you want stock noise levels, you be better off staying with ONLY the stock mounts
as far as stiffer bushings for it, i did ask about them, but not currently in the process though
, had to figure out a couple of things first, with the design (mainly if they can get the low side A/C port still accesible for service with out removing the mount (it clears no issue, you just can't get a coupler on it currently), then also try and clear up the instructions a little bit better, with more pictures and suchas far as pictures, heres a teaser
i am not going to actually put one out
, till it is actually out, which is actually suppose (will happen probably, but stuff does come up though unforseen)to be around the end of the monthas far as it working
loving it, and it seriously knocks down that engine movement with only stock mounts otherwise; increased noise, a little bit, but nothing bad though, but i do have it almost maxed out though , but you if you want stock noise levels, you be better off staying with ONLY the stock mountsas far as stiffer bushings for it, i did ask about them, but not currently in the process though
07-11-2010, 07:03 PM
#36
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Should be. Fries has an auto TL
07-12-2010, 02:00 AM
#37
(considering the tranny is leaking/weeping a little fluid after having had puked itself for the second time a couple of weeks ago)yes, which technically minus the 03 CL-S manual would cover them all
but even then if you look the factory mount is the same part number between the two, so yes it should fit (even the framerail is the same part number too)
also for those of you with the Comptech strut bar, you are not left out either
, as you will see it on mine with a comptech bar myself (but they did make me a plate for the otherside as a spacer though, so the bar would mount even, since there is not nearly as much give as the stock one (and if you are worried about it not fitting with the stock bar, i do still have my stock one, and they where allowed to also use it for checking and such, so should be no worries there)
07-12-2010, 08:51 AM
#38
hopefully not for long though (considering the tranny is leaking/weeping a little fluid after having had puked itself for the second time a couple of weeks ago)
yes, which technically minus the 03 CL-S manual would cover them all
but even then if you look the factory mount is the same part number between the two, so yes it should fit (even the framerail is the same part number too)
also for those of you with the Comptech strut bar, you are not left out either, as you will see it on mine with a comptech bar myself (but they did make me a plate for the otherside as a spacer though, so the bar would mount even, since there is not nearly as much give as the stock one (and if you are worried about it not fitting with the stock bar, i do still have my stock one, and they where allowed to also use it for checking and such, so should be no worries there)
(considering the tranny is leaking/weeping a little fluid after having had puked itself for the second time a couple of weeks ago)yes, which technically minus the 03 CL-S manual would cover them all
but even then if you look the factory mount is the same part number between the two, so yes it should fit (even the framerail is the same part number too)
also for those of you with the Comptech strut bar, you are not left out either
, as you will see it on mine with a comptech bar myself (but they did make me a plate for the otherside as a spacer though, so the bar would mount even, since there is not nearly as much give as the stock one (and if you are worried about it not fitting with the stock bar, i do still have my stock one, and they where allowed to also use it for checking and such, so should be no worries there)
07-12-2010, 08:58 AM
#39
I didnt really understand your comment of all besides manual cl. Does that mean it is for all but the manual? Also the plate they made for the comptech strut bar, I assume they wont make and provide that for me so i would probably have to get a fabricator to make one?
that plate is actually just another mount bracket with most of it cut off, as far as availability, you might have to get it directly from them, and i will email them to see if people will be able to get the plate seperate
edit: just sent the e-mail
Last edited by friesm2000; 07-12-2010 at 09:00 AM.