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Old 06-13-2001 | 12:51 PM
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Improve 0-60?

I'm getting a CL-P in a few weeks. I have asked the question before but no answers. I'm wondering what are good mods that I can add to help my Accl. For example what are the best, where to get them, ad how much would they cost. Also how much can the CL-P's (7.0 to 60MPH, that's what I heard, correct me if I'm wrong about that) be improved by these mods. Thanks, Anthony
Old 06-13-2001 | 02:44 PM
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Check out the link below, then scroll down to Satin's response from today. If you look in his sig, you'll see the mods he's done to the car....

http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006745.html



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Old 06-13-2001 | 02:57 PM
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intake is probally your first mod

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Old 06-13-2001 | 02:59 PM
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Just my opinon, but if you are planning on modding why don't u just get a type S. thats 2000 right there.

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Old 06-13-2001 | 03:49 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS:
Just my opinon, but if you are planning on modding why don't u just get a type S. thats 2000 right there.


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Old 06-13-2001 | 04:12 PM
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Oh I would have def. done that. But i'm 17 and my dad got me the car for college, and he wasn't going to spend another $2000 on top of all the other costs for college just so I can go a little faster. I even offered to help out but he said you got enough. We'll now I have to deal with what I have so I just want to make it as fast as the stock CL-S. I'm guessin if I add headers and Intake that should cost about $1,500. My question is will it make it run like the CL-S.
Thanks, Anthony
Old 06-13-2001 | 05:30 PM
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hahahaa....no...sorry, headers doesn't make your car an S
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pgatour1:
Oh I would have def. done that. But i'm 17 and my dad got me the car for college, and he wasn't going to spend another $2000 on top of all the other costs for college just so I can go a little faster. I even offered to help out but he said you got enough. We'll now I have to deal with what I have so I just want to make it as fast as the stock CL-S. I'm guessin if I add headers and Intake that should cost about $1,500. My question is will it make it run like the CL-S.
Thanks, Anthony
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Old 06-13-2001 | 05:57 PM
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Just add rims and make it handle better. Why do ya need to go faster?

Your just gonna go faster to get mad tickets so then your dads insurance goes up and he takes your car away

Just make that shit look good.
Old 06-13-2001 | 05:58 PM
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Allright Allright no need to be making fun of the kid with the CL-P. hahah
Allright correct me if I'm wrong on this the Cl-S runs 6.3 to 60 and the CL-P runs about 7.0
What mods can help me cut my 0-60 time by about .5 secs
Is there a Computer Chip out for the CL. and if the headers add 30HP that will cut it down to about 6.6 so the headers and a chip would make it a stock S. But does anyone have any thoughts on this and should I just start with the Intake (also what would that do) and the Headers.

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Old 06-13-2001 | 06:02 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
Just add rims and make it handle better. Why do ya need to go faster?

Your just gonna go faster to get mad tickets so then your dads insurance goes up and he takes your car away

Just make that shit look good.
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Soopa, you really don't think there is a need for any speed improvement. If I don't do the speed what are nice 17" rims with Dunlop Sport 5000 tires (I like those tires) that I should look at.

Old 06-13-2001 | 06:54 PM
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get some 19" lowenhart's and drop it 3 inches

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Old 06-13-2001 | 08:53 PM
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I also have a CL-P...I need to make it FASTER! Plus, when is a supercharger in the works? What about our body kit? Do headers really add 30HP??!!


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Old 06-13-2001 | 08:54 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pgatour1:
Oh I would have def. done that. But i'm 17 and my dad got me the car for college, and he wasn't going to spend another $2000 on top of all the other costs for college just so I can go a little faster. I even offered to help out but he said you got enough. We'll now I have to deal with what I have so I just want to make it as fast as the stock CL-S. I'm guessin if I add headers and Intake that should cost about $1,500. My question is will it make it run like the CL-S.
Thanks, Anthony
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Old 06-13-2001 | 10:32 PM
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you guys are stupid if you think headers add 30hp...think logically..if they did why the hell wouldnt acura slap em on in the first place???
Old 06-13-2001 | 10:43 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by z28typeSWRXkid:
you guys are stupid if you think headers add 30hp...think logically..if they did why the hell wouldnt acura slap em on in the first place???</font>
Hey not being stupid just going by what they say on the site. I can't say that I know it adds 30 HP but i'm not looking for a dumb answer. That's what the site says, correct me don't prosecute me if you think otherwise. My whole post is a question about improving speed. Ok so I add Headers and the Intake, Someone tell me how much that improves HP, Quarter and 0-60.
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Old 06-13-2001 | 11:49 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by z28typeSWRXkid:
you guys are stupid if you think headers add 30hp...think logically..if they did why the hell wouldnt acura slap em on in the first place???</font>
Headers add 24HP at the front wheels; toss in the 20% drive train loss and there is about a 30 HP gain with the Comptech headers at the crank. (Go to the Comptech site, then check out Mike's dynos -- I think that is proof enough. Finally, just multiply the 24 HP difference by 1.25 to get the 30 HP)

This is info for the CL-S, not CL-P.

A CL-S with headers and AEM CAI is making about 300 - 305HP at the crank. Toss in some light wheels, Densos, pulleys, and it is a FAST car...


Question with question time....

Why did Acura put on the such poor tires on our car, when they could have put on sticky Bridgestones like they did for the Type-R?



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Old 06-14-2001 | 12:13 AM
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EricL,
You just said with the Headers and AEM it goes to 300-305 HP. That is a 40HP increase. If those mods do the same for the CL-P 225 HP Stock, and add 40 HP then it is basically the same as a Stock CL-S.

Now my question...

So was I wrong before by saying that with headers and intake I coudln't make it like the CL-S? That question isn't directed at you just in general what people think, about it.


As for rims I was going to see if anyone was selling their CL-S rims around Holiday season time and then put Dunlop Sport 5000's on 235/45/17. I currently have those on my car and they were amazing this winter and in the rain and on dry road.
Old 06-14-2001 | 12:28 AM
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I think the headers only add about 15hp on a CL-P. Are you the guy that's going to ASU? If so, there's a place close by called Superior Racing Developement. I'd stop in there and talk with them about a NOS setup. Throw a direct port 75 shot on there and you'll leave just about every CL-S in the dust.

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Old 06-14-2001 | 12:29 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pgatour1:
EricL,
You just said with the Headers and AEM it goes to 300-305 HP. That is a 40HP increase. If those mods do the same for the CL-P 225 HP Stock, and add 40 HP then it is basically the same as a Stock CL-S.

Now my question...

So was I wrong before by saying that with headers and intake I coudln't make it like the CL-S? That question isn't directed at you just in general what people think, about it.


As for rims I was going to see if anyone was selling their CL-S rims around Holiday season time and then put Dunlop Sport 5000's on 235/45/17. I currently have those on my car and they were amazing this winter and in the rain and on dry road.
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1. I got carried away -- the specs are for the CL-S.

The CL is like the TL, so I looked at the Comptech page for the TL headers, and it makes about 18HP more at the front wheels, this works out to about 22 HP at your crank (now up to 225+22= 247 HP).

I haven't seen a dyno for an AEM on a CL, but the TL forum www.acura-tl.com may be able to help you out. My guess would be about 6-8 HP at the front wheels. If I figure high, the 8HP becomes 10 HP at the crank (now up to 247+10=257HP). Congradulations, you have now about the same peak HP as the CL-S.

If you wanted to get sneeky and gain some extra speed, loose some weight (No manual transmission, so you can't lighten the flywheel). You could put on some very light wheels like the SSR Comps or Volks ($$$) (in the right size for your car). This will give you a push from low speed to high speed. A lot of people realy don't believe that this helps, but I got more from the wheels than I did from the headers and CAI (my opinion, but I did buy all of the stuff).

Finally, you could toss on the pulleys for 2+ HP and if you have run up some miles on your car, put in some Densos.

The light wheels don't translate to HP, but into less mass to move. You will loose the "static" weight (just like going on a diet -- doesn't sound like much...). However, the rotational inertia is really important. The weight lost there is a big deal!!!!

Note: People who have put on heavy 18" wheels have in lieu of the stock CLS wheels have been punished in street races and at the drag strip -- need I say more. Suggestion: go the other way and loose weight


The CLS wheels wont fit right (so I've been told) and you will lose acceleration if you put on the heavier wheels of the CLS


(my opinions only)




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Old 06-14-2001 | 12:31 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pgatour1:
EricL,
You just said with the Headers and AEM it goes to 300-305 HP. That is a 40HP increase. If those mods do the same for the CL-P 225 HP Stock, and add 40 HP then it is basically the same as a Stock CL-S.

Now my question...

So was I wrong before by saying that with headers and intake I coudln't make it like the CL-S? That question isn't directed at you just in general what people think, about it.


As for rims I was going to see if anyone was selling their CL-S rims around Holiday season time and then put Dunlop Sport 5000's on 235/45/17. I currently have those on my car and they were amazing this winter and in the rain and on dry road.
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Why get 17" STOCK rims? YOu can get something with a wider wheelbase and much nicer/lighter then the stock rims.
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Thanks a lot for all the responses. I'm going to get the AEM and headers, someone posted about getting lighter 17" rims. Which ones do you suggest. Thanks, Anthony
Old 06-14-2001 | 01:29 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pgatour1:
Allright correct me if I'm wrong on this the Cl-S runs 6.3 to 60 and the CL-P runs about 7.0
What mods can help me cut my 0-60 time by about .5 secs
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More accurate numbers would be 6.6 for the CL-S and 7.0 for the CL-P. There's really not much difference between the S and the P and it's ALL in the top end. Headers, intake and light wheels would probably just about get you to where a CL-S is.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">get some 19" lowenhart's and drop it 3 inches</font>
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If you wanted to get sneeky and gain some extra speed, loose some weight (No manual transmission, so you can't lighten the flywheel). You could put on some very light wheels like the SSR Comps or Volks ($$$) (in the right size for your car). This will give you a push from low speed to high speed. A lot of people realy don't believe that this helps, but I got more from the wheels than I did from the headers and CAI (my opinion, but I did buy all of the stuff).

The light wheels don't translate to HP, but into less mass to move. You will loose the "static" weight (just like going on a diet -- doesn't sound like much...). However, the rotational inertia is really important. The weight lost there is a big deal!!!!

Note: People who have put on heavy 18" wheels have in lieu of the stock CLS wheels have been punished in street races and at the drag strip -- need I say more. Suggestion: go the other way and loose weight


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I agree completely with Eric. The lighter rims will give better all around performance throughout the RPM range than Headers/CAI. This is also in conjunction with the improvements in the handling department as well.



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