And I thought that the Z06 had enough power...
And I thought that the Z06 had enough power...
Waiting for the 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 will pay off for patient customers. They will be rewarded with more horsepower-405 hp vs. 385 hp for the 2001 model. The 20-hp bump also is 5 horsepower more than Chevy had originally expected from the latest work to the LS6 5.7-liter V8. Standard, non-Z06 models produce 350 hp.
According to sources in General Motors, the next Z06 engine benefits from revised engine valve springs and camshaft, and improved exhaust flow. Chevy will tout it as the fastest, lightest and most powerful Corvette ever produced.
Underpinning the upgraded Z06 is a beefed-up, high-performance suspension, including a larger front stabilizer with aluminum links, stiffer rear leaf springs, revised rear shock valving and new front-brake linings. The 2002 Z06 also sports cast-aluminum wheels and comes in a new color, Electron Blue, which replaces Speedway White in the five-color Z06 palette.
High-tech features include Corvette's stability control system and a standard head-up display.
So far, it appears Chevy will hold fast to its "hardtops-only" rule for the Z06's second year of production.
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Gabriel
CL Type S
Sweet! They just keep getting better and better!
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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
No Navi/No Spoiler
Competch springs
35% tint
PIAA 19169 bulbs
K&N 33-2178 air filter
The Aviation Zone
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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
No Navi/No Spoiler
Competch springs
35% tint
PIAA 19169 bulbs
K&N 33-2178 air filter
The Aviation Zone
who gives a shit...i was at the New York International Autoshow today, and man...that Z06 is a piece of shit. Sure its powerful and fast...but the interior looks like a 89 geo metro. Just another american piece of worthless trash. My friends modded NSX (no turbo) will smoke the living shit out of any vette.
ok i would love to see that nsx do that...and wait isnt that car 90k+ so shouldnt be able to beat a 50k car...im sure with 40k of modification a corvette could rip the pants out of a nsx. Have u ever heard of Ligenfelter? By the way your a moron and all american cars arent trash.
Nirvanaib I respect your opinion, but I must rebottle. There are members over at corvetteforum who have monstrous machines. Some include a 750 hp 422 ci C5, 650HP TT C5s, and various other modded vettes. Until recently, I also owned a 2000 C5 coupe that ran 13.09 1/4 bone stock. Now your friend's NSX maybe fast, but I think you're pushing it when you say it can beat any vette. I will agree with you on the material construction of the interior, but it's very functional with some nice features. Now let's take a stock 2001 NSX and a stock 2001 Z06, I'll put money on the Z06 all day long on any type of racing.
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2001 Acura CL Type S
Non-navi
Satin Silver
Planned Mods:
Infinity Self Powered Sub-Woofer (installed)
Xephyr CAI (when it finally ships)
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Rear Wing
DVD Video System
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2001 Acura CL Type S
Non-navi
Satin Silver
Planned Mods:
Infinity Self Powered Sub-Woofer (installed)
Xephyr CAI (when it finally ships)
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Rear Wing
DVD Video System
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nirvanaib:
who gives a shit...i was at the New York International Autoshow today, and man...that Z06 is a piece of shit. Sure its powerful and fast...but the interior looks like a 89 geo metro. Just another american piece of worthless trash. My friends modded NSX (no turbo) will smoke the living shit out of any vette. </font>
who gives a shit...i was at the New York International Autoshow today, and man...that Z06 is a piece of shit. Sure its powerful and fast...but the interior looks like a 89 geo metro. Just another american piece of worthless trash. My friends modded NSX (no turbo) will smoke the living shit out of any vette. </font>
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Black Type S, Spoiler, Comptech Headers, AEM CAI, Comptech Springs and Sway Bars...touch my car I WILL kill you
my other car is a hummer
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nirvanaib:
who gives a shit...i was at the New York International Autoshow today, and man...that Z06 is a piece of shit. Sure its powerful and fast...but the interior looks like a 89 geo metro. Just another american piece of worthless trash. My friends modded NSX (no turbo) will smoke the living shit out of any vette. </font>
who gives a shit...i was at the New York International Autoshow today, and man...that Z06 is a piece of shit. Sure its powerful and fast...but the interior looks like a 89 geo metro. Just another american piece of worthless trash. My friends modded NSX (no turbo) will smoke the living shit out of any vette. </font>
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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
No Navi/No Spoiler
Competch springs
35% tint
PIAA 19169 bulbs
K&N 33-2178 air filter
The Aviation Zone
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One more thing, a Vette is not, and never will be, a luxury car. Although some creature comforts are provided.... power, weight, performance, aerodynamics and exterior styling is what matters!
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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
No Navi/No Spoiler
Competch springs
35% tint
PIAA 19169 bulbs
K&N 33-2178 air filter
The Aviation Zone
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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
No Navi/No Spoiler
Competch springs
35% tint
PIAA 19169 bulbs
K&N 33-2178 air filter
The Aviation Zone
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by z28typeSWRXkid:
ok i would love to see that nsx do that...and wait isnt that car 90k+ so shouldnt be able to beat a 50k car...im sure with 40k of modification a corvette could rip the pants out of a nsx. Have u ever heard of Ligenfelter? By the way your a moron and all american cars arent trash.</font>
ok i would love to see that nsx do that...and wait isnt that car 90k+ so shouldnt be able to beat a 50k car...im sure with 40k of modification a corvette could rip the pants out of a nsx. Have u ever heard of Ligenfelter? By the way your a moron and all american cars arent trash.</font>
Could not have said it better myself. Amen.
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Gabriel
CL Type S
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by thundercls:
Nirvanaib I respect your opinion, but I must rebottle. There are members over at corvetteforum who have monstrous machines. Some include a 750 hp 422 ci C5, 650HP TT C5s, and various other modded vettes. Until recently, I also owned a 2000 C5 coupe that ran 13.09 1/4 bone stock. Now your friend's NSX maybe fast, but I think you're pushing it when you say it can beat any vette. I will agree with you on the material construction of the interior, but it's very functional with some nice features. Now let's take a stock 2001 NSX and a stock 2001 Z06, I'll put money on the Z06 all day long on any type of racing.
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Nirvanaib I respect your opinion, but I must rebottle. There are members over at corvetteforum who have monstrous machines. Some include a 750 hp 422 ci C5, 650HP TT C5s, and various other modded vettes. Until recently, I also owned a 2000 C5 coupe that ran 13.09 1/4 bone stock. Now your friend's NSX maybe fast, but I think you're pushing it when you say it can beat any vette. I will agree with you on the material construction of the interior, but it's very functional with some nice features. Now let's take a stock 2001 NSX and a stock 2001 Z06, I'll put money on the Z06 all day long on any type of racing.
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Gabriel
CL Type S
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by deadlyCL-S:
i think american cars suck shit too.
the only ones i like are, hummers, navigators, maybe vipers..and the newer expensive cadilacs.
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i think american cars suck shit too.
the only ones i like are, hummers, navigators, maybe vipers..and the newer expensive cadilacs.
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Black Type S, Spoiler, Comptech Headers, AEM CAI, Comptech Springs and Sway Bars, moonroof visor, headlight blackouts, .40 in the box
[This message has been edited by sniper (edited 04-15-2001).]
Wow, this topic heated up pretty fast. As an owner (and former owner) of American, German and Japanese cars, I gotta say they all have their merits. To make an across the board slam on American cars is a little childish. There are plenty of cheesy Japanese cars, and quite a few nice American ones. There's a few of both from Germany as well. Besides, the CL was designed in the US and built in Ohio.
I'm a big fan of the Corvette for what it is, pure unadulterated power on four wheels. If you want to get from point A to point B as fast as a $150k Ferrari, that's one way to do it, and pocket $100k for an M5 and a CL-S on the side. ;-)
Just my $0.02.
I'm a big fan of the Corvette for what it is, pure unadulterated power on four wheels. If you want to get from point A to point B as fast as a $150k Ferrari, that's one way to do it, and pocket $100k for an M5 and a CL-S on the side. ;-)
Just my $0.02.
I was just reading the latest Consumer Reports on all new 2001 models and in this issue they showed reliability of cars since 1980. It was rated in incidents per 100 cars or something like that. Back in 1980, according to this report, American cars sucked ass big time and German cars were much better and Japanese cars were the best by far. By 1990 the gap had closed greatly but still the same order. By 2000 there is such a small gap that it really makes it hard to make blanket statements like "American cars suck". Again, in 2000 it was the same order, American, German and Japanese the best but the gap was very small. Sorry I don't have the specifics but I read it a week ago and I don't have the issue to refer to.
One more thing to think of. Do you really think American car companies would be selling as many cars as they are if they had a bad product? Sure, there is a bad car here and there but overall the quality is way up from past years. Sure, it's still not up to the level of Japanese cars but that doesn't mean that they suck.
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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S - San Marino Red / Parchment - #26519
non-nav - spoiler - wheel locks - splash guards - PIAA 19169s - Zaino baby! - Pics of my car
[This message has been edited by TakeFlight (edited 04-15-2001).]
One more thing to think of. Do you really think American car companies would be selling as many cars as they are if they had a bad product? Sure, there is a bad car here and there but overall the quality is way up from past years. Sure, it's still not up to the level of Japanese cars but that doesn't mean that they suck.
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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S - San Marino Red / Parchment - #26519
non-nav - spoiler - wheel locks - splash guards - PIAA 19169s - Zaino baby! - Pics of my car
[This message has been edited by TakeFlight (edited 04-15-2001).]
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by thundercls:
...Now let's take a stock 2001 NSX and a stock 2001 Z06, I'll put money on the Z06 all day long on any type of racing.
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...Now let's take a stock 2001 NSX and a stock 2001 Z06, I'll put money on the Z06 all day long on any type of racing.
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2001 cls: silver/black;spoiler;mud guards
future mods : headers;intake;exhaust;springs
Does the fact that the Vette pulls about 1g affect how it will run through the twisties?
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"01" CL Type-S
White\Black
Comptech Springs
Comptech Sways
Navigation System
Burlwood Shifter
Guards+Fenderwell Trim
PIAA16969
Smokers Package
My Car
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"01" CL Type-S
White\Black
Comptech Springs
Comptech Sways
Navigation System
Burlwood Shifter
Guards+Fenderwell Trim
PIAA16969
Smokers Package
My Car
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by yezbozz:
sure in a straight line, the z06 is faster, but it doesn't handle as well as the nsx. so would you still take it in the twisties?
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sure in a straight line, the z06 is faster, but it doesn't handle as well as the nsx. so would you still take it in the twisties?
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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
No Navi/No Spoiler
Competch springs
35% tint
PIAA 19169 bulbs
K&N 33-2178 air filter
The Aviation Zone
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nirvanaib:
who gives a shit...i was at the New York International Autoshow today, and man...that Z06 is a piece of shit. Sure its powerful and fast...but the interior looks like a 89 geo metro. Just another american piece of worthless trash. My friends modded NSX (no turbo) will smoke the living shit out of any vette. </font>
who gives a shit...i was at the New York International Autoshow today, and man...that Z06 is a piece of shit. Sure its powerful and fast...but the interior looks like a 89 geo metro. Just another american piece of worthless trash. My friends modded NSX (no turbo) will smoke the living shit out of any vette. </font>
Sam
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by yezbozz:
sure in a straight line, the z06 is faster, but it doesn't handle as well as the nsx. so would you still take it in the twisties?
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sure in a straight line, the z06 is faster, but it doesn't handle as well as the nsx. so would you still take it in the twisties?
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Sam
Let's face it guys. The NSX is a great car. In many ways it tries to be an exotic. However, it doesn't compete with the best of the performance cars. Simply put, it has a V6 and is a 10-year-old design. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car but the Z06 is a much better performer. Now, as for which one is more reliable, I'm sure there is no argument there that it's the NSX. That's also partly why the NSX is so damn expensive. The NSX is a super reliable semi-exotic car.
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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S - San Marino Red / Parchment - #26519
non-nav - spoiler - wheel locks - splash guards - PIAA 19169s - Zaino baby! - Pics of my car
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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S - San Marino Red / Parchment - #26519
non-nav - spoiler - wheel locks - splash guards - PIAA 19169s - Zaino baby! - Pics of my car
Yeah, gotta give points to the RX-7, my favorite car in the last 10 or so years. Too bad they stopped making them. If I didn't need a back seat, I'd pick up a 95 RX-7 and be done with it.
Amazing how much power you can pull out of a 1.3 litre rotary. Having 1/3 the parts of a reciprocating engine is a blessing, until you need to get it fixed.
The Z-06 is a great car, providing you like the styling. It's all subjective at that point.
Amazing how much power you can pull out of a 1.3 litre rotary. Having 1/3 the parts of a reciprocating engine is a blessing, until you need to get it fixed.
The Z-06 is a great car, providing you like the styling. It's all subjective at that point.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kastegir:
Yeah, gotta give points to the RX-7, my favorite car in the last 10 or so years. Too bad they stopped making them. If I didn't need a back seat, I'd pick up a 95 RX-7 and be done with it.
Amazing how much power you can pull out of a 1.3 litre rotary. Having 1/3 the parts of a reciprocating engine is a blessing, until you need to get it fixed.
The Z-06 is a great car, providing you like the styling. It's all subjective at that point. </font>
Yeah, gotta give points to the RX-7, my favorite car in the last 10 or so years. Too bad they stopped making them. If I didn't need a back seat, I'd pick up a 95 RX-7 and be done with it.
Amazing how much power you can pull out of a 1.3 litre rotary. Having 1/3 the parts of a reciprocating engine is a blessing, until you need to get it fixed.
The Z-06 is a great car, providing you like the styling. It's all subjective at that point. </font>
I like the RX-7 too. They still make them in japan and now make 280 HP. Their only weakness is the driveline. They break more then anything. It's not uncommon to see two RX-7's line up at the track and see them both fail. I saw this at LACR during the finals.
Sam
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by yezbozz:
sure in a straight line, the z06 is faster, but it doesn't handle as well as the nsx. so would you still take it in the twisties?
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sure in a straight line, the z06 is faster, but it doesn't handle as well as the nsx. so would you still take it in the twisties?
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Gabriel
CL Type S
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TakeFlight:
Let's face it guys. The NSX is a great car. In many ways it tries to be an exotic. However, it doesn't compete with the best of the performance cars. Simply put, it has a V6 and is a 10-year-old design. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car but the Z06 is a much better performer. Now, as for which one is more reliable, I'm sure there is no argument there that it's the NSX. That's also partly why the NSX is so damn expensive. The NSX is a super reliable semi-exotic car.
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Let's face it guys. The NSX is a great car. In many ways it tries to be an exotic. However, it doesn't compete with the best of the performance cars. Simply put, it has a V6 and is a 10-year-old design. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car but the Z06 is a much better performer. Now, as for which one is more reliable, I'm sure there is no argument there that it's the NSX. That's also partly why the NSX is so damn expensive. The NSX is a super reliable semi-exotic car.
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The main reason why the NSX is so expensive is because of its aluminum construction. Not because of reliability issues. Also, that is what is left to call this car an exotic super car. Its alloy construction which used to be hot 5-10 years ago but now steel construction is a better solution due to refinement overall. ANd that is why the new NSX will go the steel route.
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Gabriel
CL Type S
[This message has been edited by gavriil (edited 04-16-2001).]
I was just thinking that the power increase of the Z06 to 405 hp is even more evidence of where the new NSX will lie as far as HP output. Four hundred is even more probable now.
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Gabriel
CL Type S
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