I Was Just Thinking...About CT Springs...Problems Or Not?

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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:31 AM
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I Was Just Thinking...About CT Springs...Problems Or Not?

Everytime I think I want to go with a CT spring install, I read about members with problems. So far I heard of members whose cars are not standing straight, tire wearing problems, allignment problems and noise problems, etc. It sounds like it's more trouble then it's worth. His anyone with these CT springs not have problems? What did you do to rectify problems? Thanks for your input.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:43 AM
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for sure if you lower it the following will happen:

1) you will wear your tires unevenly unless you install front and back camber kits... frequent rotations will help.
2) The ride will get stiffer
3) The ride may add some squeaks if no enough lube is used while installing

4) the car will look better
5) Slight improvement in handling
6) Improvement in uplift and nose-dive after braking.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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Comptech springs dron't drop the car enough to need a chamber kit. I've had mine on for almost a year now and I have had even tire wear all around. I think Comptech designed these springs to be simple bolt ons....have a good shop put them on and you'll be fine!
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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The CT springs do in fact drop your car enough to require a camber kit. My passenger rear wheel now has 1 degree of neg camber so the tires on that side are ruined. The other wheels have .5 degrees of neg camber. I've got the camber kits just need to install them.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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I haven't had any problems with CT Springs or Sways. No camber kit necessary, NTB said since they only lower it 1.5 inches. I got my car aligned with no problem. Everything improved performance wise with only a slight change in ride harshness. I wish I got them on earlier.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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I haven't done it yet. Not sure if I will or not. I mean, it seems like it's more trouble than it's worth. Plus, I think it's gonna be a waste of money once I go to sell the car, I'll have to go back to the dealership or wherever I get them put on at, and PAY to have the stock one's put back on.

Then, all the horror stories about ruined tires. Forget it. My tires were $750.

I do like the way it looks, but I can't justify the cost. This is a luxury car, not a WRX. I doubt that the slalom times for our cars stock vs with springs is that big of an improvement. It's a big ass boat to begin with.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 10:29 AM
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TypeSKid...thanks for bringing up your doubts. I have been thinking the same way. The car would look great lowered but I am also concerned about other issues down the road (tire wear, squeaking). Another concern that I have is how badly do the springs compromise wheel clearance. Without springs there is obviously a ton of room...with them, will I be in real danger of damaging the car if I hit a bad pot-hole while turning? Road conditions in New England are the worst...I don't want to have to worry about it....
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:12 AM
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No problems here with my Comptech’s.
Ride is only slightly stiffer then stock and the handling improvements outweigh that minor negative point.
Tire wear is fine after 7,200 miles and I don’t have a camber kit.

I think many, if not ALL, of the problems you read about Comptech springs are from improper installation.

Shawn S
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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I had comptechs on my old cls. Never had a problem. I didn't need a camber kit.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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agreed, Shawn.....there are absolutely no negatives i can think of about the comptech springs....ive had mine for about 6 months and i still think they are the best mod i did (welll, actually i think the OBX headers take that cake these days) but seriously, dont buy the hype about problems with the springs...no camber kit is needed, its such a trivial difference..and like it was mentioned, jsut rotate your tires more often

bottom line is that the LOOK and BETTER HANDLING that the springs offer EASILY outweight any negative you could possibly try to pin on the comptech springs.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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I've had my Comptech Springs and Sways for over a year now. My tires are showing no uneven wear. I rotate them at every oil change. Did not require a camber kit. Handling is great. Ride a little stiffer than stock. Definitely improved the looks. Key may be to have the dealer install it to insure to fix any problems. You won't regret it.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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CT recommends a camber kit. 'nuff said.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 12:04 PM
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Is it Comptech that sells the camber kit, If so...enough said
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 12:19 PM
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as far as rubbing issues go, i think the tire is the key here...for ex, many people have the Proxes or ECSTA's with no rubing whatsoever on a CT drop...i have some rather annoying rubbing with my Pilot Sport A/S's b/c the sidewall height is so high, even tho it's a 50 series tire...i had my springs and tires done at PAA at the same time back in March of this year, and i've noticed now the rubbing is starting to get worse b/c the springs r settling, and i'm not driving the car nearly as much to wear down the tread enough to offset the settling of the springs

so keep that in mind as well if u decide to drop the car...CT is pretty much the most conservative drop to get, but in my case even the CT drop causes rubbing

BTW, no issues of premature wearing of the tires or alignment problems w/ my CT drop...no camber kit...make sure u get a good service shop to do the work
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 01:03 PM
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No problems here. Had the springs on since Sept. of 2000.
As mentioned above rotate your tires every 3 - 4000 miles and they will be fine. I got 42k miles out of my stock tires.
If you still unsure get together with someone in your area that has them and go for a ride in their car. That is what convinced me to get them.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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to date 35k miles on mods and no problems
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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So far, it seems like less problems than more.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by TypeSKid
I haven't done it yet. Not sure if I will or not. I mean, it seems like it's more trouble than it's worth. Plus, I think it's gonna be a waste of money once I go to sell the car, I'll have to go back to the dealership or wherever I get them put on at, and PAY to have the stock one's put back on.

Then, all the horror stories about ruined tires. Forget it. My tires were $750.

I do like the way it looks, but I can't justify the cost. This is a luxury car, not a WRX. I doubt that the slalom times for our cars stock vs with springs is that big of an improvement. It's a big ass boat to begin with.


Owning a car should be a peaceful experience and with maintenance and other BS problems which shouldnt be there in the first place.... i'll stay away from upgrading which mostly likely could cause MORE problems.

Of course its every man's choice so not knocking down anyone for doing it... just not worth the extra migraines for me.

Rather buy a car which is factory modded, like the m3, so everything is tested and under warranty
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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Had my CT spring on my TL-S for about 2-3 months. No problems with noise or pulling. Alignment is perfect in the front. Rear camber is .1 out of spec. So no big deal.

Car looks much better with the springs. Check out the Comptech forum. Mike from Comptech says in most cases camber kit is not required with Comptech springs.

I have Comptech springs, sways, headers, and Nuspeed strut bar.
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 05:05 PM
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Its ur choice drive a cool looking car with the drop or plain looking CL like everybody else has. I don't see many CL's around and with the Comptech drop even less. If ur interested Ill sell u mine .
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 05:38 PM
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The varying results also depend on driving style: twisty miles + freeway/commuting (no side force Gs) vs. mostly twisty vs. straight line. Add-in the differences with them taking a "set" after time and the difference in tread compounds and you're not going to get a single "right" answer.

Also, when an alignment is done, it's not done under "average"/"day-to-day" load. The camber is going to increase with people, "stuff", and average gas load...

YMMV
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Scooter
as far as rubbing issues go, i think the tire is the key here...for ex, many people have the Proxes or ECSTA's with no rubing whatsoever on a CT drop...i have some rather annoying rubbing with my Pilot Sport A/S's b/c the sidewall height is so high, even tho it's a 50 series tire...i had my springs and tires done at PAA at the same time back in March of this year, and i've noticed now the rubbing is starting to get worse b/c the springs r settling, and i'm not driving the car nearly as much to wear down the tread enough to offset the settling of the springs

so keep that in mind as well if u decide to drop the car...CT is pretty much the most conservative drop to get, but in my case even the CT drop causes rubbing

BTW, no issues of premature wearing of the tires or alignment problems w/ my CT drop...no camber kit...make sure u get a good service shop to do the work
I suspect that the CT clearance is really close and also related to the bump stops. I believe your running the 225/50-17. Another member with 235/45-17 and 8" wide SSRs, Comptechs and Konis moved to a 225/45-17 and problem went away. That's close to 5mm in clearance (.45 * 10mm - .5 * 10mm).

I don't know for sure, but someone could make some good money making a bumpstop that was just a tad taller/beefier than the stock/OEM one...
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 10:01 PM
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No problems here either. The look of the car is way improved, i like the rake to the front. Better handling, with the Konis and no clearance issues at all with driveways etc. Get em Pappy !!
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