I just did my dyno run
Could you post a dyno? how much did you pay for the dyno run?
Again, I do not think we will ever see again a CLS with just CAI and headers dynoed at 236HP ( like Mike's CLS)
Who knows....
Again, I do not think we will ever see again a CLS with just CAI and headers dynoed at 236HP ( like Mike's CLS)
Who knows....
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ok let me get this right.... stock hp to the wheel is 200hp, and thats 23% less from the crank (260)... So if i have 227hp to the wheels, then does that mean i only have 279hp to the crank
So how the hell does comptech say they get 30hp from their headers alone??
So how the hell does comptech say they get 30hp from their headers alone??
Crazy AcurA, yeah, I think the dyno guys need to remember to not include the spike at the start of the graph 
As a note, it would be "useful" if you could get a "flatbed scan" of your graph. Perhaps someone would "host" it for you too (better than attaching at 640x480 (IMO)).
It is also hard to see the rpm grid (and no rpm numbers are shown)... Your hp curve looks flatter than "usual" at the top, and the normal torque bump at around 6K is not there...
Since you have the pulleys, CAI, headers, and the rest of the goodies, it would make for a nice addition (if you can find a "scan helper and host")
The more dynos we have around here the better!

As a note, it would be "useful" if you could get a "flatbed scan" of your graph. Perhaps someone would "host" it for you too (better than attaching at 640x480 (IMO)).
It is also hard to see the rpm grid (and no rpm numbers are shown)... Your hp curve looks flatter than "usual" at the top, and the normal torque bump at around 6K is not there...
Since you have the pulleys, CAI, headers, and the rest of the goodies, it would make for a nice addition (if you can find a "scan helper and host")
The more dynos we have around here the better!
Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
ok let me get this right.... stock hp to the wheel is 200hp, and thats 23% less from the crank (260)... So if i have 227hp to the wheels, then does that mean i only have 279hp to the crank
So how the hell does comptech say they get 30hp from their headers alone??
ok let me get this right.... stock hp to the wheel is 200hp, and thats 23% less from the crank (260)... So if i have 227hp to the wheels, then does that mean i only have 279hp to the crank
So how the hell does comptech say they get 30hp from their headers alone??
assuming 23% loss you are making 295 at the crank.
Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
ok let me get this right.... stock hp to the wheel is 200hp, and thats 23% less from the crank (260)... So if i have 227hp to the wheels, then does that mean i only have 279hp to the crank
So how the hell does comptech say they get 30hp from their headers alone??
ok let me get this right.... stock hp to the wheel is 200hp, and thats 23% less from the crank (260)... So if i have 227hp to the wheels, then does that mean i only have 279hp to the crank
So how the hell does comptech say they get 30hp from their headers alone??
1. If you made 200HP (without any mods -- and a lot of CLS models made only 200HP at the front wheels dead stock), you could "just round up" as follows:
230 / 200 is a 15% gain (I rounded up -- oh, yes). The 260 HP at the crank would become 260 * 1.15. Using “do-it-in-my-head-math” as follows:
260 + 26 (10% of 260) + 13 (5% of 260) = 299HP (I've read one too many "do math in your head" books...
)Now, Comptech's data is "worded" in a way that makes for some confusion.
The PEAK/MAX/HIGHEST output of their headers is to the front wheels is: 232
The PEAK/MAX/HIGHEST output of their stock CLS to the front wheels is: 208
232 - 208 = 24 HP gain.
Now (most of the CLS dynos) only report around 200HP to the front wheels. So, 200 + 24 = 224 HP!
IMO, that 32HP figure causes nothing but confusion and does more harm than good. They are just finding a place on the curve where the difference is the greatest between the stock and header equipped vehicle -- the info is marketing hype...
Originally posted by Crazy AcurA
Eric does this look better.. if ya need i will see scan it tommorrow...
Eric does this look better.. if ya need i will see scan it tommorrow...
That explains it -- with the RPMs shown, I had no idea that the RPMs started at 4600 RPM.
The torque peak is near 6K (which is as it should be) and the best part looks to be your flat HP "peak" from 6K up, seems to be the result of the "wide" scaling that was used. But it looks good!
have u guys ever considered getting a engine management unit like the UNICHIP or AEM EMS? It might help A LOT.
A few Accord V6ers just got dyno'd, V6MoMoney(he has all the bolt on mods, ie. i/h/e/pulley/plugs) has the UNICHIP and just had it tuned and had 210hp to the wheels. Not sure on the torque number just yet, he didnt post it.
And another of our members, 30V6200HP just ran 205HP without any Timing adjustments. I'd expect him to be around 210-215whp after timing adjustments to use 91octane gas.
A few Accord V6ers just got dyno'd, V6MoMoney(he has all the bolt on mods, ie. i/h/e/pulley/plugs) has the UNICHIP and just had it tuned and had 210hp to the wheels. Not sure on the torque number just yet, he didnt post it.
And another of our members, 30V6200HP just ran 205HP without any Timing adjustments. I'd expect him to be around 210-215whp after timing adjustments to use 91octane gas.
Crazy Acura,
Find yourself another dyno shop, Why your dyno starts at 4800 rpms.. That is BS.... What gear did they use? It should be the 3rd in SS.
And finally as Eric mentioned... What is this crapy scale...?
Why you need to plot a vertical scale from 0-225 HP:sqnteek: ...
you need only the 150-250 range..
Did you get the dyno run data on a floppy disk.. if so you can download Dyno software and replot the data.
Find yourself another dyno shop, Why your dyno starts at 4800 rpms.. That is BS.... What gear did they use? It should be the 3rd in SS.
And finally as Eric mentioned... What is this crapy scale...?
Why you need to plot a vertical scale from 0-225 HP:sqnteek: ...
you need only the 150-250 range..
Did you get the dyno run data on a floppy disk.. if so you can download Dyno software and replot the data.
Do you have any more details on the UNICHIP? How much is it? Can it work on the CL-S?
Originally posted by frank828
have u guys ever considered getting a engine management unit like the UNICHIP or AEM EMS? It might help A LOT.
A few Accord V6ers just got dyno'd, V6MoMoney(he has all the bolt on mods, ie. i/h/e/pulley/plugs) has the UNICHIP and just had it tuned and had 210hp to the wheels. Not sure on the torque number just yet, he didnt post it.
And another of our members, 30V6200HP just ran 205HP without any Timing adjustments. I'd expect him to be around 210-215whp after timing adjustments to use 91octane gas.
have u guys ever considered getting a engine management unit like the UNICHIP or AEM EMS? It might help A LOT.
A few Accord V6ers just got dyno'd, V6MoMoney(he has all the bolt on mods, ie. i/h/e/pulley/plugs) has the UNICHIP and just had it tuned and had 210hp to the wheels. Not sure on the torque number just yet, he didnt post it.
And another of our members, 30V6200HP just ran 205HP without any Timing adjustments. I'd expect him to be around 210-215whp after timing adjustments to use 91octane gas.
I'm sure the actuator is working fine. If it wasnt that would mean Johntypes, acura crazy and me would have imrc problems.
Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
Crazy Acura,...Is your IMRC actuator working ?
If you had a dyno run from 3000 to 7200 we could have if it is working or not...
Crazy Acura,...Is your IMRC actuator working ?
If you had a dyno run from 3000 to 7200 we could have if it is working or not...
Have been posting about Unichip for some time and no responds!
Comptech will test it at their factory so if someone from SAC would call them they would also get a cheaper price. Unichip is made by Racers Edge at Sears Point. On high power engines have seen up to 60hp. It works with our ECM remapping fuel, timing, at custom intervals throughout RPM range and will work even better with Superchargers and Turbos to optimize power!
I wonder if anyone will follow up on this potential potent mod?!
Comptech will test it at their factory so if someone from SAC would call them they would also get a cheaper price. Unichip is made by Racers Edge at Sears Point. On high power engines have seen up to 60hp. It works with our ECM remapping fuel, timing, at custom intervals throughout RPM range and will work even better with Superchargers and Turbos to optimize power!
I wonder if anyone will follow up on this potential potent mod?!
OK I just called the racers group. They do have an application for our car at the moment, but it can only do air/fuel adjustments. He told me in about 3 months when the new updated unichip comes out it will be able to do more. This includes rev limits/removing governor/tranny shifts/air-fuel. One thing they are not certain about is the timing adjustments. More R&D is needed to find out more info about timing adjustments. I would love to have an ECU mod available to us.
spiro
spiro
Originally posted by blazerbob1
Have been posting about Unichip for some time and no responds!
Comptech will test it at their factory so if someone from SAC would call them they would also get a cheaper price. Unichip is made by Racers Edge at Sears Point. On high power engines have seen up to 60hp. It works with our ECM remapping fuel, timing, at custom intervals throughout RPM range and will work even better with Superchargers and Turbos to optimize power!
I wonder if anyone will follow up on this potential potent mod?!
Have been posting about Unichip for some time and no responds!
Comptech will test it at their factory so if someone from SAC would call them they would also get a cheaper price. Unichip is made by Racers Edge at Sears Point. On high power engines have seen up to 60hp. It works with our ECM remapping fuel, timing, at custom intervals throughout RPM range and will work even better with Superchargers and Turbos to optimize power!
I wonder if anyone will follow up on this potential potent mod?!
Spiro, good going man. Again someone should try and contact Comptech cause they also carry the Unichip and will test it on our cars to help in the R&D plus give a good price, at least thats what
Comptech emailed me! If we fellow CL-S owner can be patient there are a number of mods that are being R&D'd! It's only a matter of time! Patience everyone!
Comptech emailed me! If we fellow CL-S owner can be patient there are a number of mods that are being R&D'd! It's only a matter of time! Patience everyone!
you guys should email or message V6MoMoney on Accordv6.com
he has a lot more info about the UNIchip and its capabilities.
btw its like 400-500 for the chip then u need an authorized dealer to do the install and tuning, which will cost an additional 400-500.
he has a lot more info about the UNIchip and its capabilities.
btw its like 400-500 for the chip then u need an authorized dealer to do the install and tuning, which will cost an additional 400-500.
Originally posted by Pull_T
Am I the only one that thinks using a 23% drivetrain loss is a bit high?
Am I the only one that thinks using a 23% drivetrain loss is a bit high?
This transmission is only running through the torque converter and through a single 3rd gear set to the output gear and differential (at least for '3rd' gear dyno tests). The loss is going to be comprised of "fixed" (ATF pumping losses) and linear and non-linear losses from oil-shear and other losses. I would be a little hesitant about "labeling" this box with a 23% loss (without caveats). There is also the possibility that some of the CLS and TLS cars are putting out +/-5% of factory rated crank output (depending on temperature, break-in, production variances, and other factors)...
Originally posted by EricL
It depends on the slush box... The figure runs from 20% to 23% (based on the factory's crank output of 260HP and the various "stock" outputs from 196 to 208HP at the front wheels).
This transmission is only running through the torque converter and through a single 3rd gear set to the output gear and differential (at least for '3rd' gear dyno tests). The loss is going to be comprised of "fixed" (ATF pumping losses) and linear and non-linear losses from oil-shear and other losses. I would be a little hesitant about "labeling" this box with a 23% loss (without caveats). There is also the possibility that some of the CLS and TLS cars are putting out +/-5% of factory rated crank output (depending on temperature, break-in, production variances, and other factors)...
It depends on the slush box... The figure runs from 20% to 23% (based on the factory's crank output of 260HP and the various "stock" outputs from 196 to 208HP at the front wheels).
This transmission is only running through the torque converter and through a single 3rd gear set to the output gear and differential (at least for '3rd' gear dyno tests). The loss is going to be comprised of "fixed" (ATF pumping losses) and linear and non-linear losses from oil-shear and other losses. I would be a little hesitant about "labeling" this box with a 23% loss (without caveats). There is also the possibility that some of the CLS and TLS cars are putting out +/-5% of factory rated crank output (depending on temperature, break-in, production variances, and other factors)...
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Screwed it up.
Damn, i hope no one saw my mistake.. 
