Hey guys, I am working with my exclusive clutch supplier, Clutch Specialties, to make some clutches for the TSX, CL, UA5 TL, and UA6 TL. What I need from you guys is approximate power figures we need to consider, and price range to stay within (be realistic!).

The Hyperclutch from Clutch Specialties is a great unit. Typical holding power is increased 25-50% without a negative impact on the pedal feel. Also, they can customize setups with different hubs and discs. We typically consult potential customers to find out what exact power and feel requirements there are, and we can custom build clutches per application! And NO they are not priced out of control!

So, let's get some feedback!

Marcus

 

A clutch without a new pressure plate is useless in the CL-6.

Will this include a new pressure plate? Flywheel?

I would imagine 2 offerings should be made:

1 for typical street use; for cars with bolt ons.
1 for more aggressive use which can handle 400+whp (not kidding).

 

That seemed fairly obvious to me, sorry for that assumption...

Of course, these are completely new clutch KITS. Pressure plate, disc, bearings, and tool are all included in the kits we currently carry.

I think you are right, 2 kits would probably be in order.

Flywheels will PROBABLY be available.

 

I would think the price point should be in the 650.00 to 850.00 range for a complete kit. Especially since the Comptech clutch doesn't seem to offer any major difference over the stock set up from what I have been told and it costs 1000.00 or something. That price is insane if you ask me.

I think the torque spec is just as important as horsepower. I wouldn't bother replacing my clutch with an aftermarket of the specifications for power and torque are similar to OEM. So, torque should be at 350 ft/lbs to work for the forced induction applications.

 

The Comptech clutch is no stronger than the OEM clutch... it isn't advertised to be stronger. The Comptech kit is designed to offer better performance through the lighter flywheel.

 

Even more of a reason to pass on Comptech. No major benefit, and 1300.00 bucks. Insane.

Hopefully, a vendor comes up with a great clutch kit for CL's soon.

 

No major benefit? The lightweight flywheel gives a much improved experience behind the wheel.

 

i think 850 for a clutch kit is a little nuts. comparing anything to comptech's price point is retarded. they have always been overpriced underperformers, dont get me wrong its well made stuff but you dont get what you pay for. i think 500 for a clutch/pressure plate for the lower unit would be pushing it and maybe 250-300 more for a flywheel, i would pay perhaps 200-300 more for a high performance version. i think the basic unit should be capable of handling around 260ft/lbs and the high end unit should be able to handle at least 350 ft/lbs

 

pay to play jdmperk....mrsteve knows his shit. if i had a CLS6 my first mod would be CT clutch/flywheel and headers.

 

Clutch "kits" normally cost anywhere from $450-$1,000. Due to the low market demand in these cars I would expect to be closer to the higher end of that price spectrum.

 

Competition Clutch is supposed to be @ 700 for the entire kit (including flywheel) with 2 Choices of discs... one for slightly modded and one for heavily modded cars.

 

Right now my car is down because the clutch is gone. So, before I go off and buy an oem replacement, I really want to see if anything is available within a 1-2 month range. But I'm with MrSteve, I'm going to need a clutch that can withstand my stroked 3.5L and 125 shot.

 

I'm in the same exact position as you, except I can still drive around but can't get on it. We definetly need something stronger for us running F/I.

I'll probably go with whomever releases there product first.

 

Does anyone's clutch let out a noticeable "squeak" when you are really on it when you let out the clutch pedal? Mine used to do that all the time when I was boosted.

 

with the price of r&d, I'd say a complete package with everything you've stated, around 700-900 is reasonable depending on the clamping force offered. Disks are no problem to get, they are readily available in a variaty materials. Anyone could replace there disk with a disk other than organic material and get a better engagement, even with the stock pp.

Getting the pp and flywheel takes some know how. Hope this doesn't turn out to be another pipe dream like so many other ideas. I'd be in, but hurry, competition clutch is close.

 

I get a squeal out of mine occasionally but it's usually at lower RPM engagement.

 

Great feedback!

 

When mine goes I'm sticking to a stock unit. They seem to hold up just fine to me

 

For the most part, I understand where you're coming from. If you stay with the stock flywheel, the stock pressure plate works fine and has proven to hold the power most of us are putting down.

If you go with a different flywheel, I feel an upgrade to the disk and pressure plate is the best way to go. I personally love the lightweight flywheel vs. the stock dual mass flywheel. The stock setup is extremely heavy.

 

When I was SC, i got the same squeak. thought it was the clutch, but determined it was the sc belt going through it's paces between shifts.

 

not more than 700 for full kit.

 

you guys seem to be advocating overpriced clutches because thats the "norm" and our cars are "rare" regardless of that fact once you are tooled up the per-unit costs would be identical for a more common clutch such as one in say...a mustang, you have any idea how much those sell for? the reason the parts are more expensive for our cars is because people are will to pay ridiculously high prices for mugen, comptech, and off the wall JDM parts.

 

Ah that would make more sense.

 

3rd gear slips pretty bad. Just bought a new OEM clutch. Going to do the replacement myself. Any advice? Dumb question, but does anyone know where to get a clutch alignment tool? Or know what dimensions the tranmission input shaft is - # of splines, Outside Diameter of shaft.

Sorry if this is a highjack.

 

I would highly advise you have the dealership do the clutch replacement.

 

Part of what you say is true, being tooled up doesn't cost much to stamp out a pp. Problem is, when only one manufacturer makes a performance part for this car, the price will be higher. If more made the part, then the price will be lower, in the meantime, I just want to see someone put this product out.

From what I'm seeing on this forum, more and more people are cycling through their clutches due to age and miles. These guys who make the clutch and said it would be ready, are probably going to miss out on a few sales.


Alignment tool is off the shelf and usually the oem clutch from acura should have the throw away alignment tool in the box. sometimes they come with it.

Your probably referring to the pressure plate compression tool. You really don't need it as you take off every other bolt that holds the pressure plate to the flywheel and then slowly back off each of the remaining bolts a little at a time until the pressure plate is decompressed. If you take it off cockeyed, watch out, could hurt yourself and damage the flywheel.

You will need a compressor, portable is fine, impact wrench, various impact metric sockets, air impact hammer(this is a must) chain to support the motor with a 2x4, jack, stands, and another car to get you around while you cuss up a storm. It can be done, and will save you a bunch of money. Take the money you'd spend on paying someone to do it, and buy the tools to do the job.

 

Thanks Thin Jim.

I have a helm book (best money spent to date on the car) checked for alignment tool at OEMacuraparts.com, and acuraautomotiveparts.org NO Luck. Bought the clutch kit, throwout bearing, and pilot bearing from AcuraAutoparts, and they claimed they didn't sell the clutch alignment tool. Measured the clutch splines and came up with 1.125 dia, and 24 spline.

Do I need to resurface the flywheel. I don't really want to but it's opened up anyway.

 

my acura mechanic told me the flywheel cant be resurfaced on our cars.

 

Same here. Dual Mass flywheel can't be resurfaced. Once you see it, it makes sense.

 

This is not necessarily true. Some parts are more expensive because they actually cost more, not because of price gouging.

Also, consider that the tooling for a CL or a Mustangf clutch probably does cost similar amount of money, but how many people buy mustang clutches versus the CL one? The cost drops because of volume, not tooling.

So, we probably have two things going against us. 1, the clutch is not common, and 2, the clutch is no popular, in a global sense.

Marcus

 

We can possibly come up with a complete clutch and flywheel system which replaces the dual mass wheel with a conventional one and alter the pressure plate and disc to a less expensive unit. Kit would be sold and one whole assembly of flywheel and clutch together. I will keep looking into this.

Out of all of Acurazine, you guys seem the most interested in clutch upgrades!

Marcus

 

Ok, we are looking at building a clutch and flywheel combo that will resemble the comptech setup, only we will be offering a better disc material and an upgraded pressure plate. We should be able to meet price targets mentioned.

If you would like to help, we need a stocj flywheel, disc, and pressure plate to being tinkering. Anyone have any lying around?

Marcus

 

^^^Just saw this...I'm a dork...

 

I've got a set sitting in my garage.

 

Sweet....what do I need to do? Send a paypal request to paypal@heeltoeauto.com for whatever you want for it shipped to me, even if it is just the shipping amount (cross fingers ). 92691

Marcus

 

I would have gladly sent you mine, but competition clutch has been finger f**kin it for a while. I hope you can come up with one. The flywheel, what is your choice in materials, I'd like to see a steel one made rather than aluminum. One that is a little lighter than stock but heavier than aluminum.

 

Hit me up man! Making me crazy!



Yeah, I can see the value in going with chromoly over aluminum...but when you factor in cost and servicability, aluminum is the clear winner.

 

Allout...where we am man I was happy to talk to you but I'd really like to check out these parts.

 

It's sitting in my office. I didn't get a chance to take it to shipping today. I'll try to ship it tomorrow.

 

Shipped out today.