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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 01:47 AM
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How to reduce torque steer?

Is there any way to reduce it? Please explain to me if you know.

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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 03:13 AM
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Yeah, buy a G35. I'm sorry, I just had to.

Unfortunately I don't have a real answer but this will serve as a little bump for your message thread.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by TakeFlight
Yeah, buy a G35. I'm sorry, I just had to.

Unfortunately I don't have a real answer but this will serve as a little bump for your message thread.
That's cold man...just cold.

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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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don't floor it i guess. kinda hard to prevent when u have all that power up front
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by TakeFlight
Yeah, buy a G35. I'm sorry, I just had to.

Unfortunately I don't have a real answer but this will serve as a little bump for your message thread.

yea, or WRX
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Perfect alignment, tire pressure, etc. and take in easy on the gas..
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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The only sure way I know of reducing torque steer is to reduce the horsepower the engine puts out

... or like the others have said, go RWD...

The CLS w/ the LSD doesn't have as much torque steer as some other FWD cars, but it still has some. 8/10's of the time I don't notice that I'm driving a FWD car. It's only when I really pushing it (exiting a corner) that I notice that I am in a FWD car.

Just make sure that you have a good grip on the steering wheel when you're flooring it
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:50 AM
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Make sure you spin the wheels
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Widert tires helped a ton... I have 235/40/18 and I can not feel the torque steer...
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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Attach a stering dampner (SPeL CheKAr BroKAn)
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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1- Detune the car to about 150hp

2- Only drive in a straight line

3- Modify to RWD (Comptech is rumored to be working on a kit for this)
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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to what green monster said, out of every FWD car i've driven, my car has the worst torque steer by far. The LSD actually upped the amount of torque steer from the automatic.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by I am RobG
to what green monster said, out of every FWD car i've driven, my car has the worst torque steer by far. The LSD actually upped the amount of torque steer from the automatic.
Test drove a new Altima when they came out...the torque steer is SILLY!!!!
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by I am RobG
to what green monster said, out of every FWD car i've driven, my car has the worst torque steer by far. The LSD actually upped the amount of torque steer from the automatic.
I thought only the 6spds got LSD ?? The automatics get VSA instead...
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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Re: How to reduce torque steer?

Originally posted by 2003CLTYPES
Is there any way to reduce it? Please explain to me if you know.

Thanks
1) Better tires with better lateral traction.
2) Ensure you tires are inflated correctly.
3) Tighter front suspension (springs, sways).

Unfortunately, you can't get rid of it all (just minimize it). Part of it is caused by the design of a FWD. If they ensure the 1/2 shafts from the tranny to each from wheel is the same length, torque steer is quite minor.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by greenmonster
I thought only the 6spds got LSD ?? The automatics get VSA instead...
your right, I think what he meant was the 6 speed w/ the LSD has more torque steer than the auto w/ VSA he drove
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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6spds have LSD which reduces torque steer significantly.
Car and driver or motor trend...one of those mags, reported of saying "this is the best fwd car they hav ever driven.period" Ofcourse it also depends on the driver..the more u learn about the torque steer in this car, the more u will be able to avoid it to an un noticable extent. OBSERVATION AND EXPERIENCE.
for example. I notice my torque steer tends to move my car if i floor the heck out of it, to the left more then the right...solution...i play with the steering wheel direction to overcome it.Ofcourse a better steering system would help too if there is such an upgrade which i dont know nothing bout.
Also....most of the time since i am not a hardcore race driver...torque steer for me adds to the FUN FACTOR of launching the car at a traffic light..SO..

1 LIVE WITH IT
2 ENJOY IT
3 LEARN TO MASTER IT

PH
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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So pretty much what everyone is saying, is tough luck. Sways will help some, but other than that I have to live with it.

Thanks for all the information everyone.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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you dont know what torque steer is till you drive a caddy sts or dts
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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Hey, have you tried racing stickers, those seem to help just about everything. A big park bench wing could provide a little dampening when combined with some altezza tale lights and some windshield nozzle neons. Just a thought.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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You don't list the offset of your wheels in your sig.

If you lower/change the offset from the stock +55, you are going to increase the torque steer.

For example, if you have +42 offset wheels, the torque steer is going to increase more than a +48 offset wheel, and the +48 offset wheel will increase the torque steer more that a +52 offset aftermarket wheel – and so on.

The torque steer will be lowest with the stock offset.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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I'm just glad that there is enough torque in this car to feel the tourque steer. Its fun to control when WOT coming off a turn. Anyway it grows on you.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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Ok this is somehting that the big shots should jump on that means u Scalber, allmotor, Nashau.

Is it possible to add thicker oil to the steering gear box that would allow are steerign to feel more firmer and harder to turn. That seems to be my only guess to what might be able to work. If the lube doesn't work then changing the gears would have to solve the problem.





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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:53 PM
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Changing the viscosity of the fluid in the power-steering unit would probably only damage it... I wouldn't mess with that. The LSD actually reduces torque steer as EricL mentioned. It is a function of the distance from the edge of the wheel to the point of attachment (hub). A mechanical engineer would probably explain it best!

What I notice on my 6spd is when flooring during a turn... the LSD tends to maintain that direction without spinning the inner tire... very nice feeling. It's like driving a rear-wheel drive car without fearing a drift or fishtail!
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Changing the viscosity of the fluid in the power-steering unit would probably only damage it... I wouldn't mess with that. The LSD actually reduces torque steer as EricL mentioned. It is a function of the distance from the edge of the wheel to the point of attachment (hub). A mechanical engineer would probably explain it best!

What I notice on my 6spd is when flooring during a turn... the LSD tends to maintain that direction without spinning the inner tire... very nice feeling. It's like driving a rear-wheel drive car without fearing a drift or fishtail!
Like I said earlier,spin the wheels and torque steer disappears
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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Re: How to reduce torque steer?

Originally posted by 2003CLTYPES
Is there any way to reduce it? Please explain to me if you know.

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Yes, the quickest and easiest way is to buy a RWD car.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Klamalama
1- Detune the car to about 150hp

2- Only drive in a straight line

3- Modify to RWD (Comptech is rumored to be working on a kit for this)
if they are rumored to be making a rwd conversion, may as well make it a awd instead set our coupes aside from all the rest.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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How the hell can CT make a RWD conversion for our car when the chassis is made for a FWD!

The car doesn't even have a platform to start from into making a RWD conversion.

Sure don't get me wrong u can make any FWD car into a RWD car but that would take $K+ lots of it.

Oh and I agree if they are making a RWD conversion for the car they should make it AWD .




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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Changing the viscosity of the fluid in the power-steering unit would probably only damage it... I wouldn't mess with that.

Ok but what about changing the gearing in the steerign box?







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