So as you all know, i traded in my cl-s 4 months early and picked out a beautiful MDX touring with navi. After all was said and done, they were goin to try and sell the car, but couldnt so they end up sendning the car back to honda for final report and inspection. Well, i didnt get any notification of any inspection, i just get a lettter in the mail stating I owe 1200 bucks. I called them up and asked them what the charges were for so heres the list.
1) 2 tires, not rims, but tires at 260 bucks a piece =520
2) 450 bucks to replace flowmaster exaust which i had put on in dec 2000 for less then 200 under permission from rick case acura and honda finance (but ofcourse when i asked them about it they said they had no record of that).
3) missing owners manual 20 bucks
4)4 seperate charges of 60 bucks for seperate dings or dents
total of 1253 bucks.

I asked them about the 1500 dollar wear and tear, and they said it wasnt arround when i got my car, but to my surprise it was instituted 1 month after, how bullshit. im not sure exactly what to do, i mean how much of a case do i have. they never consulted with me for any of the changes they did when they inspected it, and i am leasing a 2nd car from honda finance. I think they should have just eaten the freakin charges cause the tires were not bald, like they saidm and the muffles were modified to make it better, and they destroyed that. Ill keep you posted. Anyone else been thru an ordel like this. let me know.
wg

 

Hmmm. This is a tough one. If you have something in writing from the dealer saying that he "bought" your car, then it's his responsibility as to its condition if he then decided to return it to AHFC. If you left the car with the dealer and he returned it to AHFC on your behalf and you didn't get a signed inspection report you're screwed. If you and an appraiser review the car and s/he signs off as to its condition, anything found after that is AHFC's responsibility. Just leaving the car gives AHFC the opportunity to make any claims they want as to it's condition. They'll file a judgement against you for the amount due and it'll show up on your credit report as a giant red flag so not paying really isn't an option. Your best bet now is trying to negotiate a settlement.

 

they wanted me to pay a grand, a big 200 something off. im goin to fight it cause it just seems soo stupid they would do what they did without my consent. i got to ask the dealer as well.
wg

 

OMG Plz tell me that's not Rick Case pulling this BS...OMFG .

Review ur contract and find out if applicable charges can be applied for damages upon trade in.

Frankly I am with u on this. They should have notified u prior to the repair and asked u how u would like to resolve the damages. This is how I see it if they accepted the vehicle and the papers were signed then CASE CLOSED...period. When someone trades in their car (purchased, no termination of lease, like ur situation) then it is their car. I mean how can they NOW prove that the damages were there prior to the sale?

I would recomend getting in touch with a Civil attourney and ask him what type of attourney u should then speak with. RC may see it differently when an attouney writes them a letter. But before u go that far talk with the regional/district manager and explain ur case.










Juker008

 

I've got a hot flash for you. You got raped when you LEASED a car, that's a sure way to alter your long term cash flow. They're just coming back for seconds now.

 

I know some of you like leasing cars because of a low or no down payment. This is one of the reasons why I hate leasing. You will get screwed in the end. I'd rather see you buy less car and pay it out than lease and get fucked! The only way to avoid this is to lease again and put a clause in your new contract that you are returning current car without recourse to the dealer before beginning a new lease with a different car. Good luck!

 

I never heard of the 1500 dollar “allowance thing, but I have heard MANY stories of how people got ripped off when they traded in a leased vehicle.
When you turn over the car, the only thing signed by the dealer is a receipt for the car.
The inspection is usually done weeks later at a remote site.

My sister-in-law went to turn in a GEO after a 48-month lease and they told her the repairs needed were for more then the wholesale value of the car.
YES, they wanted the car AND money to sign off.
Obviously the dealer just didn’t want it.
She ended up buying the car instead and then selling it and made a few hundred dollars.

As for your situation, here’s my opinion:
TIRES:
No brainer. You don’t turn in a car with bad tires.
Go to Wal-Mart, K-Mart, SEARS or anywhere that will put on a cheap set of rubber.
A dealer will ALWAYS charge you retail for OEM tires.

EXHAUST:
Another no brinier. NEVER do MODS to a leased vehicle that you can’t “un-do” when you turn the car over.
Hell, you could have GIVEN the parts to a local member in trade for his stock parts and you would have come out ahead.

OWNERS MANUAL:
20-bucks sounds fair.

DINGS:
240 for dings sounds a bit excessive. Most places charge about 60-70 per panel to fix these, but I wouldn’t expect a few dings to be anything more then average wear on today’s cars.

I’ve heard so many leasing horror stories it isn’t funny.
My one friend gat a repair bill back on his leased car SIX MONTHS after he turned it in.
He’s fighting it, but it seems to be an uphill battle and they have already dinged his credit report with an 800-dollar lean.

Sorry to hear of your troubles and I hope you were smart enough to BUY the MDX.
Otherwise you’ll be going through this same problem in a couple of years.

Shawn S

 

You should have never taken delivery of the mdx without a final reconsciliation on the old car. Sounds like they led you right to this moment.
If they violated your contract, then complain. Otherwise, I don't see what leverage you can apply.

 

You could always put a sign in your new MDX saying that they
screwed you on a lease, and drive there every day to talk to them? It would only take 1-2 lost sales to get even..

 

Leasing is great! I'm sorry for the horror stories anyone has, & sorry some people just don't understand. Yes some people should not lease. But for alot of others it's great. I've had nothing but great lease experiences. I can't say the same thing for purchase.
Now for your deal. You traded the car in for a new one? before the lease ended? If so, you are NOT responsibale for anything after rick case took it. Get a lawer, or talk to the reginonal rep. If they bought it from you the dealer paid off the lease. It's not your car anymore! It's theirs. If they couldn't sell it & gave it back to Honda, that's their problem. Once you turned it in to the dealer, they should have done an inspection their, they did with my 02 I traded.

 

2) 450 bucks to replace flowmaster exaust which i had put on in dec 2000 for less then 200 under permission from rick case acura and honda finance (but ofcourse when i asked them about it they said they had no record of that).


You got that in writing partner?

 

well i didnt lease the 2nd acura from rick case, maybe if i did they wouldmt have pressed me for all the crap, but at the time, they wouldmt take my cl-s back the few months early, and i wanted out. when i turned the car into ed morse i did sign off on it, and they marked the miles and told me i was all set. im goin to complain to the dealer as well because they didnt tell me about the muffler or tires, they said i could worry about rims, not tires. ill let u all know
wg

 

christ what a bunch of bullshit, money grubbing assholes


how bout you tell them to fuck off and give the CL-S back for a few days so you can go buy 80 dollar sumitomo tires and then order the exhaust online for like 150 and install it yourself, that would save you a lot of money over their bullshit prices.

 

Yeah, this is a tough spot to be in... However, not bringing the car back with a complete set of matching tires and a non-stock factory exhaust is cause for the dealer to get 'ya. While the cost they want for the particular items may not be the best, they're certainly entitled to come after you.

 

I agree with everyone who posted. Like I said before, once Acura took the car they assumed responsibility for the vehicle. If damages were found then that is their problem. Don't let me FK u, FK them. Look, when I hear that a dealer, any dealer denies warranty work it just Fkin pisses me off. What ever repairs a dealer does to a car they MAKE money, they are reimbursed for the parts and labor, and still get paid on top of that.

Review ur contract and speak with a civil attouney. Dont' forget to contact the regional office and explain ur situation.









Juker008