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Old 05-19-2009, 06:23 AM
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HBP upgrade question.

I have a CLS-6 with a few ticks under 100,000 miles. The supercharger has been installed for 85,000 of it with no problems and the original clutch.

How wise would it be to switch from the standard pulley to the HBP? I do not have emanage or anything of the sort so I couldnt get it tuned. How many people are out there with the HBP and have not had it tuned? Any problems?

I would do it after my 105K service but do you thing adding more boost to an engine with that many supercharged miles is wise?

Thanks for the input.
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i would think it shouldnt be a problem to put the hbp in but you should get it tuned if you do.
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Originally Posted by p.diddy
i would think it shouldnt be a problem to put the hbp in but you should get it tuned if you do.
I see you have the HBP. Did you get it tuned and if so what gets changed, fuel presure, timing ect.
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Originally Posted by Cincycls
I see you have the HBP. Did you get it tuned and if so what gets changed, fuel presure, timing ect.
i just bought my blower 2 weeks ago and it wont be installed until june so i dont have those answers yet.
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Just be sure to disconnect the Bypass Valve Actuator
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Just be sure to disconnect the Bypass Valve Actuator
Thanks. I do remember reading that so it doesnt get to lean at v-tech.

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Originally Posted by Cincycls
How wise would it be to switch from the standard pulley to the HBP?
I've had the HBP on since the initial install of my S/C'er and it was one of the best upgrades I have made.

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I do not have emanage or anything of the sort so I couldnt get it tuned. How many people are out there with the HBP and have not had it tuned? Any problems?
Never had my car tuned; however, I can get the 93 octane premium gas here in Florida which helps with detonation, especially in the hellish FL heat. I'm clocking around 60K+ on the blower unit thus far with no real problems.

I have the IRMC disconnected at the distal end of the actuator cable, with the 2P switch still connected at the actuator. So far, so good.

Get the HBP, you'll love it.
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Originally Posted by zeta
I've had the HBP on since the initial install of my S/C'er and it was one of the best upgrades I have made.


Never had my car tuned; however, I can get the 93 octane premium gas here in Florida which helps with detonation, especially in the hellish FL heat. I'm clocking around 60K+ on the blower unit thus far with no real problems.

I have the IRMC disconnected at the distal end of the actuator cable, with the 2P switch still connected at the actuator. So far, so good.

Get the HBP, you'll love it.

Thats good to hear, 93 is not a problem here in Ohio either. It nice to see someone with that many miles and no problems. How many total miles do you have on your car? What style would you say is your driving? This is my dialy driver when not riding the motorcycle and it is usually 60+ miles a day 50 of which are steady highway and only ocassionally do I "get on it".

Also did you get your HBP from Comptech or someone else.

If I do this I will have the dealer do a compression check at the 105K service to see if the past 85,000 supercharged miles did any damage. Then I will decide.

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HBP + no tune = kaboom
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Originally Posted by 1hotcls6
HBP + no tune = kaboom
ignorance + a keyboard = dumb posts.
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Originally Posted by Cincycls
How many total miles do you have on your car?
The blower was installed at 45K, I tried to wait until 50K when the warranty was to expire; however, I could not wait. The car is currently at 106K, so about 60K+ on the S/C unit.

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What style would you say is your driving? This is my dialy driver when not riding the motorcycle and it is usually 60+ miles a day 50 of which are steady highway and only ocassionally do I "get on it".
Much like yourself, I to use this car as a daily driver. Mainly on the highway to and from work. I'm not out to match every 'swinging dick' that rev's on me at an intersection; however, it is nice to have a 'kick in the pants' on a quick downshift from a roll when you need it.

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Also did you get your HBP from Comptech or someone else.
The install shop ordered it from Comptech after I had purchased the S/C'er kit bakc in 2005.

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If I do this I will have the dealer do a compression check at the 105K service to see if the past 85,000 supercharged miles did any damage. Then I will decide.
You will probably be pleasently suprised at the results. There is a Moderator over on the 2nd Gen TL side that did a six speed swap. He's got some crazy miles clocked up on his J-series engine(s). At 105K these things are just getting broken in with consistant maintanence and reasonable driving.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
ignorance + a keyboard = dumb posts.
lol

Welcome back MrSteve I thought you were long gone after you sold your blue CL-S6
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
ignorance + a keyboard = dumb posts.

ignorance?? LOL. we have an internet warrior here
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Originally Posted by 1hotcls6
ignorance?? LOL. we have an internet warrior here
Yes. Ignorance. There have been dozens of CL's on this forum alone running the comptech high boost pulley without a tune that haven't gone "kaboom"

You statement to the contrary is based completely in ignorance.
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No your statement is based on ignorance. I have went through 3 motors due to no tune that eventually all gave out due to silent knock. So my statement is far from ignorance, its from experience. The FPR provided by comptech coupled with the higher boost without ignition retard (6psi) will eventually kill a J32A2 motor even with colder plugs. I remember you from v 6 p so I am accustomed to your "wise ass" remarks. I am also not here to argue, I was and am merely making a statement based on my own personal experiences. But of course the all knowing such as yourself would have something to state and remark in the contrary.

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Originally Posted by 1hotcls6
No your statement is based on ignorance. I have went through 3 motors due to no tune that eventually all gave out due to silent knock. So my statement is far from ignorance, its from experience. The FPR provided by comptech coupled with the higher boost without ignition retard (6psi) will eventually kill a J32A2 motor even with colder plugs. I remember you from v 6 p so I am accustomed to your "wise ass" remarks. I am also not here to argue, I was and am merely making a statement based on my own personal experiences. But of course the all knowing such as yourself would have something to state and remark in the contrary.
just asking but why did it take you 3 motors to figure it out?
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
ignorance + a keyboard = dumb posts.

How's it going Steve.
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Originally Posted by 1hotcls6
No your statement is based on ignorance. I have went through 3 motors due to no tune that eventually all gave out due to silent knock. So my statement is far from ignorance, its from experience. The FPR provided by comptech coupled with the higher boost without ignition retard (6psi) will eventually kill a J32A2 motor even with colder plugs. I remember you from v 6 p so I am accustomed to your "wise ass" remarks. I am also not here to argue, I was and am merely making a statement based on my own personal experiences. But of course the all knowing such as yourself would have something to state and remark in the contrary.
I don't think I've ever posted on so not sure who you're talking about. I've owned 2 supercharged CL-S's, bot with the HBP. Two different cars, two different blowers.

It sounds to me like your FPR was incorrectly calibrated, your IMRC was not disconnected, or you screwed something else up.

Dozens of others have individually driven 10's of thousands of miles without failure. Your ancedotal evidence to the contrary is not enough to go around telling people to spend hundreds of dollars on labor and equopment they don't need.
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How's it going Steve.
Things are great. Hope you're doing well.
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Originally Posted by p.diddy
just asking but why did it take you 3 motors to figure it out?

because I can afford it
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I don't think I've ever posted on so not sure who you're talking about. I've owned 2 supercharged CL-S's, bot with the HBP. Two different cars, two different blowers.

It sounds to me like your FPR was incorrectly calibrated, your IMRC was not disconnected, or you screwed something else up.

Dozens of others have individually driven 10's of thousands of miles without failure. Your ancedotal evidence to the contrary is not enough to go around telling people to spend hundreds of dollars on labor and equopment they don't need.
In that case I must have mistaken you for someone else and for that I apologize
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