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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:01 AM
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Question H.I.D foglights

Anyone know where I can get a set of these foglight bulbs??? Maybe an e bay link or something please. They would be for a 2nd gen CLS.

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:29 AM
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it will melt the housing, you'll have to get aftermarket fogs, i just got some, going to mount it in a month or two..
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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What kind of fog lights did you pick?



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it will melt the housing, you'll have to get aftermarket fogs, i just got some, going to mount it in a month or two..
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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when you get the aftermarket fogs, make sure they can fit HID bulbs. not all can. like an h3 bulb or osmething
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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i got an 880 series projector fog light, i'll post some pictures of someone who installed it already. i might modify it to take a d2r/d2s/d2c bulb instead because of a better focal point, thus a better cut off and light output.

these are used in the older corvetts and other GM cars. the cut off is sick, i'll post them later today
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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it will melt the housing, you'll have to get aftermarket fogs, i just got some, going to mount it in a month or two..
Has anyone proven this? HID bulbs run at much cooler temperatures than a halogen bulb. I'm not trying to argue, only curious if it has been tried.

As far as fog lights, just about any housing can accomodate an HID bulb. If it's an h3 housing, use an H3C HID bulb. The problem then only inlies in the focal point of the projector or whatever you're using.


Melting problems aside, if they exsist, I think the major problem would be that lense in the OEM road lamp housing is not designed to throw light onto the ground, rather only for an accessory light. I think you'd have massive glare with an HID bulb in the factory roadlamp.

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Has anyone proven this? HID bulbs run at much cooler temperatures than a halogen bulb. I'm not trying to argue, only curious if it has been tried.

As far as fog lights, just about any housing can accomodate an HID bulb. If it's an h3 housing, use an H3C HID bulb. The problem then only inlies in the focal point of the projector or whatever you're using.


Melting problems aside, if they exsist, I think the major problem would be that lense in the OEM road lamp housing is not designed to throw light onto the ground, rather only for an accessory light. I think you'd have massive glare with an HID bulb in the factory roadlamp.

Your correct on every account

HID runs cooler and won't melt the housing. The lens is not designed to direct light so you will have massive glare and no real useful lighting
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Awesome, someone else thats familiar with HID technology. I can completely understand the falacy that because they're brighter... they run at a higher temperature. But let's not extend that rumor to Acurazine.

I think it would be a better decision to retro-fit projectors into the housing, or tint the plastic and us it only as a mask to hide whatever projector you're using from the rear of the housing.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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Wrong, you WILL melt the housing. The initial charge from the ballast to turn on the bulb in an HID is WAY stronger than any incandescent light bulb. Go ahead and put HIDs in your fogs but don't come back here crying that your housings melted.

FYI - Search my name, i installed AFTERMARKET foglights with GLASS housings w/ HIDs.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PureSound15
tint the plastic and us it only as a mask to hide whatever projector you're using from the rear of the housing.
I don't have the running lights in my 03 so I don't know how everything is put together but this sounds like a good idea.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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pictures, this is an rsx with them, he pointed each outward to increase width, but it looks funny... and the bottom one is crooked...



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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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our ROADLAMPS, they're no way fog lights, don't produce any significant output at all, IMO they look like ass on our cars. get aftermarket projector fogs all the way. our low beams, they're okay, not the best either...
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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[QUOTE=CleanCL]Wrong, you WILL melt the housing. The initial charge from the ballast to turn on the bulb in an HID is WAY stronger than any incandescent light bulb. QUOTE]

I don't you read the thread. I didn't say it was a good idea to put HID bulbs in the factory road lamps, quite the contrary. Other than the initial ignition of the gas, an arc, how odes the initial charge have anything to do with the operating temperature of the bulb.

Connect a ballast, and HID bulb to a 14v drill bettery and feel the head that comes off of the bulb. A) There is no "heat blast" when it starts and B) There is a massive difference between the temperature, once warmed up, when compared to incandecent bulb which is hot almost instantly.


So... since we're not arguing whether or not it's a good idea. Let's focus on the real reasons as to why it's not smart and what options we have to get around the need for extra light without sacraficing the same styling that we all paid for.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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its been discussed over and over, it will melt the housing period. plus our road lamps suck ass anyways, there's no reason to even have them, which might be a reason why the 03's didn't get them.

go aftermarket or go home. nuff said
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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I love the completely unfounded reasoning.

Let's just revert back to having only a few people on the board that have big enough balls to try something different - even if the rest of the imagination-lacking forum says it's too hard or wont work.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PureSound15
I love the completely unfounded reasoning.

Let's just revert back to having only a few people on the board that have big enough balls to try something different - even if the rest of the imagination-lacking forum says it's too hard or wont work.
there is no 'unfounded reasoning' because if you would have searched you would have found that at least one person tried it and reported back that they melted the housing.

and again, if you would have searched you would have found that i ran aftermarket fogs w/ HIDs.

nothing new, this thread is just a repost. i tried to give you the information but you refuse to believe me. that's fine. have fun melting your housings.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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listen to these guys..

anything over an 18w bulb (01-02 housing was designed for a 5w) will melt the housing. most HID is running at 35w. i am running hella micro DE projector fogs with h3 bulbs. no HID yet, and i probably won't unless i find a lot of money. the point of fogs is to shine light in a straight pattern onto a spot in front of your car with no light above the cutoff OR BELOW (which will also reflect off the ground and create a blanket as well). HID just makes the problem worse if you do not have the correct bulb in the housing (arc is off from focal point of halogen bulb). if you're doing if for the look, then fine, go ahead and blind people, but otherwise, stick with halogen.

PS. I've already made a lense over the '03 housing to cover/protect my projector fogs.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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yup, they are saying that an HID bulb will run cooler than the 5w bulb meant for that housing. i guess we are wrong. :X
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Hmmmm. Are you guys for real? What about those M6 Polarg bulbs?

Are these the ones you guys are discussing that melt??

So unless I go aftermarket there is nothing then??

Sucks. =(
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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like we have been saying, its been done, it's been destroyed. the design of the factory does nothing for light, what's the point of even using it or even upgrading the bulb. The housing SUCKS, does not produce light, get that through your thick heads, there are 3 people here which posted 2 times each that it will not work. if u dont believe us go try it, see how much light it will produce. i don't even care if it doesn't melt, it doesn't produce enough light to be efficient. it looks like ass lighten up anyways.
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CL SpeedsteR
Hmmmm. Are you guys for real? What about those M6 Polarg bulbs?

Are these the ones you guys are discussing that melt??

So unless I go aftermarket there is nothing then??

Sucks. =(
Polarg M6's and PIAA 19224's are both halogen bulbs but are only 18 watts. The roadlamps produce nearly no valuable light and are mostly there for aesthetic purposes. Adding aftermarket halogen bulbs will make the roadlamps look closer to HID in color, but still won't be very bright.

If you're looking for HID fogs or ones that will improve vision at night, you'll have to go for a custom aftermarket setup like Lippstuh was talking about.
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Can't find anything on LED's for the road lamps. I have the PIAA 19224's but just got some Kaixen 6000k's and they make my PIAA's look like crap. I totally understand our road lamps are useless so i'm going for straight looks.
What kind of LED bulb would it be?
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Old May 10, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Can't find anything on LED's for the road lamps. I have the PIAA 19224's but just got some Kaixen 6000k's and they make my PIAA's look like crap. I totally understand our road lamps are useless so i'm going for straight looks.
What kind of LED bulb would it be?
i put the kaixen 600k hid in my cls too. Now my road lamps look pretty :theghey:
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Old May 10, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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piaa or polarg lamps give out more light than any LEDs dont even bother with them
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Where are you guys buying these kits for the hid fog lights? What hardware is needed?
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Originally Posted by MADMAN187
piaa or polarg lamps give out more light than any LEDs dont even bother with them

I honestly just want to try to match my 6000k's My piaa's look like crap and are just for looks anyway (wondering if led's match)
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picture of the mismatch... depends on your other 6000k how old they are and if you matched the brands.

led will do NOTHING for light output and only for looks, it would be pretty stupid to do that if you ask me....
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Old May 13, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LIPPSTUH
picture of the mismatch... depends on your other 6000k how old they are and if you matched the brands.

led will do NOTHING for light output and only for looks, it would be pretty stupid to do that if you ask me....
Hold on...yes or no...our road lamps do absolutely NOTHING even with PIAA's/Stock bulbs/Polargs. Why do LED's seem stupid?
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because the housing is just too big for some LED's. I tired twice, but it seems like it only lights up the led and doesnt look like its lighting up the whole housing
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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so I got my headlights cleared finally and I bought the PIAA 1157 and 168's for the corners. the 168's look decent but the 1157's dont match at all.

anyone know what will work to make it match better??

i heard someone on here say the superbrightleds.com ones arent that great??

thanks
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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where can you buy aftermarket glass housing fog lights for the 03?
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its been done let me take some pictures and post it. I just got it in about 1 week ago and need to realign but ill just take pictures so you guys can see.
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ill take some more pictures in the morning. I bought some 3000k h3 HID's from craigslist, and bought the housing from autozone for 29 bucks. Bought some mesh at homedepot and some spray paint. probably cost me about 160 for everything. Not only that takes a lot of time to fit the mesh in the way i did. Made it look more of a mercedes c-class fog mesh. I think it took me about 4 hours because of the spray paint wiring and removing and putting back the bumper.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 02:33 AM
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do u have any day photos
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not yet ill take pictures tmr morning. I want to do the 03-05 accord coupe fogs because the output on these fogs suck. they beam everywhere and as you can see its not all yellow its more of a white but yellow on the ground.
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where can you buy aftermarket glass housing fog lights for the 03?
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TC3modena
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there are currently no aftermarket fog lamps for the CL, you have to make your own if you want glass...

Several ppl on here including myself are trying to make honda accord coupe fog lights work on the CL. (would be nice if i friggin received mine from ebay already!)
unfortunately, Acura stiffed us by not offering a nice upgrade/option to the fog lights.

Do a search for fog lights and peruse through some of the threads, you will see what i mean
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I got a few pm's regarding my fogs and just as ljmushock said they don't make aftermarket fogs for us yet and takes a lot of time and effort to get it to fit. It took me nearly 4 hours to complete the installation. The longest was make the mesh to fit around the fogs. Now I'm going to try to do something with a more cleaner look to it. I'm probably going with the 03-05 fog lights but not use the housing. Then i'll try to buy either projector housings or glass housings and try to fit it with the cover so i can do the HID fog. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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damn, i never understood why the lack of aftermarket support for this car..so basically you have to retrofit some sort of glass housing fogs? that the length of the bulb itself will fit in?
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