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Old May 7, 2003 | 03:56 AM
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Anyone designed, installed, or heard of a grounding kit. If so has it produced viable results. My friend who has a 350Z put one on his and he got 2-3 more HP and a few more lbs torque. Any ideas?
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Old May 7, 2003 | 04:57 AM
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u talkinb about the one that HKS makes? like the ring or star someting
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Old May 7, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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What the hell is a "grounding kit"?
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Old May 7, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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yea, the hyperground kit. i heard of it. Import tuner did a write up on that. they reported that it gave 3 hp.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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Anybody have a link to this product?
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Old May 7, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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I"ll buy the full kit and install it at a dyno location if ya'll chip in for the dyno. I think that's a win-win situation for everyone. If there's no gain then you wouldn't waste your $ on the set of wires. They can be expensive, like $300 if i remember correctly.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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or if someone else is dead set on getting those wires i got $10 bucks for your dyno once i see you did by the wires. get 10 more people and your dyno is free. seems fare to me.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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yeah, I saw them in a side advertisment on in a tuner mag...seems interesting. I'm still unsure as to what they do exactly.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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I sware there was a thread a long time ago on this exact some topic.. searching still....
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Old May 7, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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Grounding Kit?
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Old May 7, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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What the HELL is it????????

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Old May 7, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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We had a car here that had an HKS grounding kit.Looked kinda silly sort of like a big purple spider humping the negative terminal on the battery .Jens
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Old May 7, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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You might want to ask johntypes. He has one installed in his CL-S. Looks sweet.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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Whats it do?
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Old May 7, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by KCPreki11
Whats it do?
I think it ultimately gives you car a bigger and better spark, hence more HP, and maybe better fuel milage... by reducing the resistence throughout your car due to bad/poor grounding..
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Old May 7, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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here's an article where they dyno'd them
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0212it_ppsuzuki/
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Old May 7, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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u guys can just go to some supermarket and read import tuners. they put Hypergrounding kit in every project car they have and dynoed..

I m not sure if it will give any HP to CLs......and it costs around $100 not $300


i remember those kit give RX7 almost 10HP when they did the dyno and in this month issue it only gave the prelude 0.2 HP, so i think it varies from car to car and it should smooth the idle and start ur car easier according to what they wrote.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by oonowindoo

I m not sure if it will give any HP to CLs......and it costs around $100 not $300

If your the do it yourselfer just go to any stereo shop and buy the wire and connecters for proably about $40-$50
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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Grounding Kit!

Hello everyone!

I am just a lurker here but I am an active poster on the 350Z and G35 forums.

If you search for my handle you will find that I have several posts regarding the benefits of effective engine grounding.

I had been contacted by one of your members to produce a grounding kit for the CL. So, I thought I’d register and share what I know.

Automotive electrical and computer systems are designed to tolerate up to 100% noise on their input lines. Meaning, if the ECU is expecting a 12-volt input signal, the signal may vary in the range of 0 to 12 volts. Fluctuations in signal are due to noise in the system. Noise is generated by spark plugs firing, discharges through the tires to the road, alternator turning on/off, etc. In other words, there is a lot of inherent noise an automotive electrical system.

One of the best-proven ways to compensate for noise is with proper grounding.

When measuring a DC (direct current) signal, almost any kind of wire will due. However, when measuring a high frequency input (i.e. the mass air flow sensor or the air/fuel mixture sensor) it is necessary to run a ground wire in parallel with your signal. The engine grounding/earthing kit provides grounding along side each signal wire.

The Engine Grounding / Earthing Kit allows for cleaner data transfer to the ECU. The result is more accurate measurements by the ECU and therefore more accurate performance, smoother idle and acceleration.


More to come...
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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snook has it for sale at a-tl.com
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 09:10 AM
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Almost forgot...

This is a very generic diagram.

However, it will give you a general idea of the connection points.

The Intake should also be considered when grounding.

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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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Hyper Ground System

Hey kHmER Co,

That is the Hyperground System over at a-tl.com.

The only purpose to my post is to help educate. As a DIY'er, this is a fun modification to make and install.

The Hyper Ground System runs for about $120 ($115 plus shipping).

I have been doing these kit for the 350Z and G35 for about half that price! AND my kits are hand made, tailored to fit - not just a generic one size fits all kind of thing.

Anyway, as I collect more info on the CL I will share it.
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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thanks!! Please keep us posted! I'm very interested in this mod.
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:30 PM
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That would be wonderful if you actually put together a custom kit for the CL for half the price! I'd buy one, thanks.
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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The TL forum has this grounding kit on the front page....
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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yeah but it's like over $100, he say he can have a custom setup just for the CL for half that...
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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Just thought of something, the fact that I removed that little integra battery and installed two redtop optimas in the trunk might make this kit non applicable for me. With batteries in the trunk, would it still be possible to establish all the grounds? Thanks
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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guys I am the one who told Insanamine to make a kit for us cLers and let me tell you he makes some killer grounding kit for the 350Z in all different colors and makes them to exact measurements. I am willing to make all measurements for the 6 speeder but we might need some for the auto I dont know if they need the same grounding though

Insanemine sells them very cheap also considering the competition
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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I can vouch for Insanamine. He makes the best grounding kit for the Z, which has had nothing but rave reviews
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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ill take one in black
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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by typeR
ill take one in black

i second that.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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so are you making one for our cl-s??
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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So whats the story with this grounding kit that InSaNeAmine was supposed to make. Is it out yet? I'm not talking about the Hyperground Kit, the other cheaper custom kit.











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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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RDX from AV6.com is willing to make a custom kit for less then 100 bucks !!! we will need at least 10 ppl for this small GB.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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I am up for one - count me in - but I want some kind of color -
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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I'm in a TLS but I'll take one in either blue or SS thread. Hell CF would be really tight!
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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Really, I am very skeptical that this would gain 0.1 HP on ANY Car. Dyno variations alone can be anywhere between 2-10 WHP. so save your money.

Most engine signal are DIGITAL! and not analog at all, so there is nothing to gain with grounding.

Nosie does not effect normal operation. if you want to make sure use and digital Voltmeter/Altmeter/Ohmmeter and see for your self? even you can use an osccilloscope, I am sure you will see no didfference.

For those who are Pro Grounding kit, could you provide a before and after Electrical Techinical Analysis?

Thank you.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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nashua,

im not doubting you're right, because im debating whether to get one or not too, but import tuner installs one on all their cars in the "tech pages", where they dyno every car. they dyno the cars before and after the grounding install, and there definitely is an increase. i don't know how to explain it, maybe it does work, maybe not.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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I've heard of arguments both supporting and criticizing the wires. But if done right they look good in the engine bay. Nice accents.
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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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Any gains below 2-3 HP is just due to variation of the elements/runs no more or les.
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