Anyone DIY a R&R on the front subframe/cross beam?
Part number 11:

Its the same part for TL and CL so im asking both owners.

 

just out of curiosity why do you need to remove it?

 

Damaged. Guess whoever rebuilt the car just left that in. I was told now that if i get into a front end accident the engine would be in my lap. So im gonna try to DIY? lol it could also be the cause of my creaking/clicking. Maybe worn rubber mounts for the subframe.

 

take it a to a body shop. that's not a fun job.

 

really? the diagram makes it seem like only a few nuts are holding it together.
are there any other parts that are attached to the beam that I need to check other then the mounts? A friend said the tranny mount is broken but im not sure if its attached to the beam. I think he said it was connected to the tranny but wasn't hearing him too well.

 

fyi - your engine and transmission mount to that thing.

 

so I like need to hoist the engine and tranny?

 

yes

 

ooooo this project sounds like tons of fun. please post up a DIY after you're complete.

i agree, let someone else tackle this one.

 

ah shoot. Where to get it done? body shops?

 

a good body shop can fix frame damage. you may not even need to replace it. there's way of straightening frames.

 

When I worked at Acura I saw this done all the time when replacing the famous glass trannies. You def need to support both engine and trans. You def need a lift and air tools. If this is not put back properly you will encounter a whole new set of problems.

 

Ok thanks guys. So im gonna take it in but im gonna go to a dismantle yard and pick up a used one. Mine is cracked in 2 places and bent pretty bad. maybe ill take some before pics to show you guys. So anything else I should replace while its out? I dont wanna keep running back and forth to the yard.
A mechanic showed me when he started jacking the car up by the cross beam. I guess the cracks and bends are causing some flex. So im getting it replaced cause of safety even if its not the cause of creaking.

 

I haven't gotten a professional opinion on where the noise is coming from yet or have picked up any parts. But I did decided to futher inspect my front end. Since upon removing the rear bumper, a few missing parts were discovered, I decided to remove the front bumper.




It seems the front of the impact beam is damaged where the area holding the absorber is. The inside of the beam is not damaged. This results in nearly a complete absense of the absorber.





Also the brackets used to hold up the bumper has modified holes for the nuts. Not sure if they needed to drill new holes because of the whole front end was not aligned or because the brackets themselves are damaged or bent.

I have just submitted the pictures to Tim at hondacuraworld to see if his opinion is to replace any of the parts. The front beam is still very much intact and only the area where it holds the foam absorber is damaged. This means that there is no way the absorber part can be removed and replaced with a new, complete piece, leaving my bumper hollow and as flexible as the door panels of a saturn. I will not be ordering any new parts if I will need to replace anything but instead will opt to go to a recycler or a local part-out. I am finding cars as I type.

 

holy shit somebody gave it to that car sick status. that shit dont look safe...

 

So just wodnering...
You bought your car salvaged yeah?

 

^ I was going to ask the same thing.

 

yeah, it's a salvaged car....

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...79&postcount=5

This type of stuff is exactly the reason why I never would recommend buying a salvage car. It might look good on the outside, but who knows what kind of damage lurks underneath.

You should just live with it instead of spending more money on a car that you won't get any money for when you sell it... It's damaged goods. By the time you bring it up to snuff, it'll cost more than a clean CL would have cost you and it'll still have a salvage title...

Live and learn...

Next time someone asks about buying a salvage titled car, we should link them to this thread.

 

Agree!!!!!

 

Wow! 8800 for a salvage car? I got mine (with double the miles) but in perfect condition for 8.

 

i would say sell that car as soon as possible, but if that were me, i wouldn't be able to sell that car to anyone in good conscience.

 

Holy Crap!!! That sucks. Goes to show you can't trust anyone in this world... My opinion is to replace all the damaged parts in the front. If the front of that car ever takes another hit say goodbye to bumper,rad & support, headlights.etc. Sure its salvaged and you'll never get your $$ back, but damn I couldn't drive my car around knowing it had damage like that. Plus you said you could get the parts cheap.

 

Yea.
But the only damage i see is a slightly damaged front beam, only to a point where the foam cannot be replaced. The beam is still good. Also the brackets are damaged or modified to fit from the misalignment of the front end. the radiator support beam and front cross beam are damaged. So just seeing if I need to replace it now.
Car drives fine just worried how the front end will hold up if i should get into an accident. So just making some evaluations. If I can find a local part out then I will replace these parts, per my safety. Right now im just determining if i need to do it asap and pay a pretty penny to go to a recycler or if i can wait till a local part-out.

 

If you do your shopping and research correctly and smartly, then a salvage car is a good buy ONLY if you plan to keep your car till the wheels fall off.
They are cheap to buy but wont sell for pebbles when you sell it again.
My mom's camry had a clean title until it was stolen. It came back with a broken quarter window, punched out ignition column and busted driver's side door handle.
We reported all that plus some slight body damaged we had done ourselves as well as a faulty seatbelt.
Because the costs to buy new body panels, paint the car and replace the entire dash was more then the value of the 92 toyota with about 200k miles, it was issued a salvage title. We bought it back for a few hundred dollars from the insurance company and paid a family friend to fix it for another couple hundred.
We still have the car to this day with over 217K miles and running flawlessly. Although the repairs were cheaply made, none of the damages effected the powertrain or safety of the car. I would not mind driving that car at all, and I did.
I simply did not put enough research into purchasing salvage cars. Most importantly is doing a very through inspection either yourself or with a professional mechanic. And find out the history of the car. A salvage car can be a wise investment if you are smart and buy like wise.

 

You will be hard pressed to get things to line up when you get the new parts now that it has been modified to go together as it sits.

I searched for months to find an unmolested well maintained CL S and it was worth the wait.

 

Thats what im trying to figure out. If the bumper brackets were modified to fit or if they were modified because whoever rebuilt the car didnt want to buy new brackets to replace the damaged ones. The front impact beam looks fine except that it cant hold a new piece of foam.