hey to the folks that bought front camber kits last month.

did you get them installed?

Also do you have any rubbing problems? did it fix your camber...

I don't want to know about rear camber kits... I know they work..

Especially curious about the Specialty Products or Engineering ones...

thanks
bobowah

 

hello is anyone reading today

 

yea, i got one. you have to be carfull how much u drop ur car. did u use springs or coilovers. the problem i had was and still is that the top of the control arm is hitting the top of the strut tower. I don't even have the wheels tucked into the wheel wells.

 

HOW DID YOU FiX YOUR PROBLEM ???/

 

I don't why U guys need front & rear camber kits if U guys are not dropping your cars 3.5"+... ?

Mine is dropped 3.5" in front & 3" in rear (compared to 03' CLS),
and my alignment guy aligned it within specs.

I have Eibach sportline w/ 1.5 coils cut in front.

 

i didn't fix my problem yet. I don't understand how your wheels can be alingned(camber and toe) when u drop your car and don't add a camber kit?

 

I have not measured my drop but it's pretty low in the front.

 

naw...i bet his alignment guy did a toe and go....cuz he doesnt have a camber kit, so it cant be adjusted. Trust me...at that low of a drop...if you dont have camber issues...then you have a car from GOD.

 

I have the Specialty Products front kits and have no rubbing. If you do as much driving as I do, 50k in 2 years, you'll need them. Unless you have no problem spending $200 / tire replacing them every 8 mos. I've even rotated them @ every oil change. 17k miles later the Toyo's start to show cords.

 

i don't have a rubbing problem, i have a banging problem. ie. metal to metal. the top of the control arm is hitting the top of the strut tower. since the adjustible ball joints are an 1" larger in height, that is causing the problem. my car isn't that low also. Any ideas??????

 

I have specialty products camber kits all around because my camber was off with my old 3" drop. The camber kits worked perfectly.



However even with my current drop, on certain bumps on one road I drive on frequently, there are a couple weird dips that if I hit going more than like 45mph I will go full-travel on my coilovers or something and get a dull thud/boom sound.

I assume that's either the shocks going full travel or the springs fully compressing, but I'm not sure. It's not a metal-on-metal sound, it's more of a dull thud or dull boom.

Whatever it is it pisses me off because I'm not even dropped as low as I used to be and I get this crap a couple dips where the hole isn't all that large but it drops out from under you and the part where it comes back up is sudden enough to compress the shocks harder than a "normal" bump. Ah fuckit it's too hard to explain. I'm not even talking about big dips, these are friggin small dips but their shape is just right to compress something enough to hit something else.

So anyway something is hitting something or compressing or whatever and I guess I'm either going to have to raise up a bit or go slower on that road. Going slower isn't really an option so I guess I will raise a bit and try to up the stiffness of the coilovers so they don't give so much. I dunno.

It still handles like a dream even with these crappy stock tires, I just need it to not give so much depth on dips. Going slow is fine and the suspension over-all is very firm. Doesn't make sense, does it?

 

My car is only dropped 2 inches all the way around, and I needed the rear camber kit!!!!!!!! My stock tires wore out in 25K miles!!!!! I would like to see pics of the front camber kit as well, since I might need to get it as well!!!

 

Just had a Pro-kit installed along with KYB's, I needed camber kits both sides up front and drivers side rear. Thought I did my research and wouldn't need them, even thought the shop was trying to rip me off!!! The kits had to be ordered so they had my car a few extra days, so I rode out to the shop to check things out.

Definetly needed camber kits. The front wheels were kinda bent under themselves. Looked like an old VW Bug or an old Triumph. I saw the computer print outs from the Alignment machine and it was absolutly out of alignment. The camber kits brought everything back to Acura specs. Those of you who drop your cars and don't need camber kits, you're fortunate! ! !

But, everything thing is cool now. Love the way the car looks, and the difference in the way the car handles is unbelievable. Initially set the shocks to 3 up front, and 5 in the back. Rides a little rough but that's something I can play with.

Thanks to Dust for all the help and advice. Hoping to have some pictures soon.

 

bnavarro, which camber kit do you have? Specialty Products like JRock?

JRock, did you get that "thud/boom" sound you're talking about when you were slammed 3 inches? Sure it's not that same thing bnavarro is talking about?

With the groupbuys for the Tein coilovers coming up again I'm really considering getting some along with camber kits, but I don't want to be hearing crazy noises since slowing down isn't really much of an option for me and many of Miami's roads are uneven since they're constantly under construction.

 

It might be the same thing, but no I did not get this when I was lower. When I was lower I did get a little rubbing on certain twisties when I had a passenger in the car. I never got this before though that I remember.

In fact, I drove the same road several times with the old setup and don't remember any problems. I'm starting to wonder if these coilovers have just gotten a little soft now.

I wonder if the Teins would last any longer than my NEX? My NEX already seem a little too bouncy. No wait, it's probably just aftermarket coilovers in general. I need some true racing coilovers or just regular springs/shocks.
F*ck this adjustable aftermarket stuff - they get soft too quick and then you bottom out on dips. I'm gonna try to tighten mine up a bit more since I didn't start with them all the way tight.

I should have paid more attention when Soopa said don't bother with coilovers because they get soft and shitty within 6 months.

 

Is this really true? I haven't heard anyone complain about the Teins. If so, that would suck. Has anyone had the Teins long enough to be a good judge of this? I was thinking about just getting some Sportlines, probably only $180, but then figured I'd need new shocks soon so I might as well go for the full coilover kit, but if the coilovers are going to piss me off again in 6 months I may just stick with my damn Comptechs...a couple subs and amps should bring the rear end down a bit.

 

What soopa was talking about is the sleeve coilovers tearing up struts.

 

um, can you admit your a dumbass or is that gonna be to hard to do?

 

thats cause soopa bought the sleeve type coilovers, we all tried to warn him but he didn't listen. Your nex's should be fine, but i've heard they are pretty cheaply made. I say sell them for what you payed and get on that tien group buy.

 

They're actually very well made, they're just getting soft awfully fast.

You know when you finish braking to a complete stop, the car goes back to a level setting? When these were new there was no motion at all because the car never dipped FORWARD while braking. Yes, they were that stiff.

Now there is noticeable dip forward and settling backward after stop, more like when I had the comptech springs on the stock shocks. I don't like it.

Ride is more bouncy (but not soft bouncy, just a little shaking-bounce to it) than buckboard. I liked it buckboard.

I like my car's suspension as stiff as a horny teenager's.... you get the idea. Now that it's settled and softening up, I'm getting a bit disheartened. Especially since, like I said, there are a couple bumps on one road that are just right to make it full-travel or something and THUD.

It's no so soft as to allow much if any body-roll in turns though. That much is still nice and stiff. It seems more front-to-back softening than side-to-side.

I will see what I can do with the available adjustments and I plan to maybe raise it a tiny bit more to help a little too. Hopefully I can make it a little stiffer again by adjusting the springs stiffer while lengthening the shock throw a bit as I raise another quarter inch or so. We'll see. Getting this sorted out next Tuesday when I go in for my first tranny fluid flush (31k and change on the odom).

 

i don't have problem with the coilovers, just the banging from the dam control arm. fucking acura didn't make and room for improvement. if i want to fuck up my camber, i could put the stock balls joints in and slam it even lower and have no problems. fucking decisions.

 

Is it possible to take a picture of what you are talking about is banging? Or even a HELMS pic with it circled?

Maybe one of the smarty people here could offer a suggestion on how to work around it or something.

 

I will try to take pictures of what i'm talking aabout. about them getting soft, they haven't yet. if they do, that's y they have a warrenty. send them in and they can overhall them. TEIN coilovers are complety rebuildable. to everone that didn't get the camber kit, how is ur tires doing? have u had them long enough to judge to see the ware on the tires???

 

you must admit though, asshole, that his car looks pretty damn good. he says it rides just fine, and it aligned properly. you people who talk shit about cutting springs are fucking brainwashed pussies. if you cut 'em w/ a torch or cut the shit out of them you are asking for trouble. but our man charles only cut off 1.5 coils, and i'm sure he used a cutoff wheel. so in my book no harm, no foul. also, i don't endorse cutting springs but :niggapleeze:

to sum this up, his car looks 10 times better than yours ever will. that is all. :o





btw, my car has over 3" drop in front w/ 3" in the rear, no camber kits.

 

You obviously are as clueless as he is. Sure his car looks good, but i really doubt he had the car aligned properlly, like moo said he probally had a toe and go.

And WOW Charles only cut off 1.5 coils and he used a cutoff wheel. Whats yoru fucking point, it still ruins the whole characteristics of the springs that were made and the purpose they were made for. Why not just buy some lower springs instead of putting ALOT of uneeded and unhealthy stress on your chassis. And hmmmm, heating up coils? What do you drive a mid 70's cadillac. Get a fucking clue dipshit. And I CAN GURANTEE w/ a 3" drop you will need a camber kit unless your car is some act from god. And the chances of both of you being dropped that low makes it very unlikely, and I can understand you both not needing it cause it sounds like the same dumbass alignment guy aligned both of your cars. How bout showing us some pics or the ELECTRONIC print out they should of given you if you got your car aligned properlly.



and as far as his car looking better then mine, i don't give a fuck......but mines got alot more personality, and it's just a quick everyday driver. I got something else to shock the women w/





and thanks for the asshole comment, i think i'm blushing

 

Ghander,
U are one dumbass F&ck for insulting me... I probably know more about car suspension more than U think U f&ck....

My suspension guy only aligns mostly mod/ slammed car, & my toe, camber, ect are within CL's aligmnent specs.

I for one will not get into a flame war, but if U don't like my car, don't f&cking look. Don't insult me w/o knowing me U dumb fu&ck.

Come down to Texas & I'll show U an ass wooping U assh&le !!!

 

Wow, someone pulled someones thong right inbetween someones lips



First, anywhere have i said i don't like your car? I actually think it looks good; I really like what you did w/ the TL body kit.


And 2nd, I really doubt you know ALOT about suspension if you are having someone else do it for you. And especially if you think cutting springs is alright. Talk to any engineer at any factory that works on making springs and they too will tell you that you are indeed a little off boy. And you probally know more then me? See that car i put a pick up of, built it w/ my own two hands.


let's see a printout of your alignment job, so you can show us that you really do know what youa re talking about. Or did your alignment guy screw you so he can come in and make more money like most of them do.


And, they allow you to cuss on this board, you don't have to look like an incompetent ass and use &. And now you are gonna "whoop my ass" because I and a few others find it EXTREMELY odd that your car is dropped 3" and doesn't need a camber kit when many people go down alot less then that and need one? I don't have something to prove, it more sounds like you do.

Thank's troll

 

Hmm, I guess if I don't have a laser aligmnent machine in my garage & I pay someone to do an alignment means I don't know anything about suspension...

Some people finding it odd that I dropped my car 3" w/o a camber kit is fine, but U calling me a "dumbass", then I take it personal.

I don't have jack to prove.... I don't insult people for no reasons.
I very sure many on this board would take it personal when someone call them a dumbass ......

 

hey mr. sensitivity,

I never said anything about you doing your alignment, but if you know so much why did you cut your springs, why did you have someone else do your suspension work.


You've got nothing to prove this is right, me and some others have come to our conclusion of you, and you don't need to worry about it.

 

why don't you have a gander at teh whole thing, not just skim it. you could learn a thing or 2. as for being clueless when it comes to modifying cars :niggapleeze: i'm not even going to get into that one. i was just giving jOo what you were looking for.


and charles is no troll, that's the first time i've ever seen him get pissed. he's contributed some interesting stuff to the forums.

you just love to be an ass. but i don't care, it's entertaining to me.

i'll have that alignment info to you soon.

 

yes, i saw that but forgot to edit it, cutting springs is still something left to the 80's not matter what method you take on doing it.



And I have a question for you two, whose the bottom?

 

Here's my last post regarding this to Ghander...

U are one immature f&ck aren't U...

 

Wow, looks like i found someones soft spot.


And let me remind you, you are the one that threatened to Beat My Ass over the internet? Yea, i'm probally the immature one.


Don't be so sensitive there are ton's of people that would love to find someone on the net that is as easy to send off on a PMS rampage as you are :P


Come back and play whenever you want, I'll try to be nice, I'll even supply you the tissues.

 

So back to the original topic at hand. How are your guys ball joints and control arms lookin? A little bent?


You mean to tell us your car was lowered and was able to adjust to the stock alignment specifications w/ NO modifications?




where's that flag when you need it? wait....wait....here it is

 

REBAN

 

why because you two tools? doubtfull

 

 

your IQ is getting lower by the post

 

OMG!!! WTF specs is he using???? It is not possible for your camber to be in spec on a car with A-arms and a mulitlink rear suspension with a 3" drop. Since you can only adjust your toe on Hondas. Thats all he can do. Period. My friends align my car...and tons of other 'modded' cars and anything with more than a 2 1/2" drop is cambered. I can understand if it were a strut and spring setup in which the suspension geometry is not as affected by lowering, but our cars are not designed that way. Get a printout of your alignment.

 

Wow, you're all a bunch of children (not you, Moo). And I thought I was immature here sometimes. wtf.