freedom of speech and it's responsibility.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 08:02 PM
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freedom of speech and it's responsibility.

i have to give a speech on freedom of speech and the responsibility of it. Any ideas?

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 08:52 PM
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yeah... tell them it works both ways. If liberals are allowed to bad mouth conservatives, conservatives can do the same thing. Only problem is the queer media we have in this country. Except for Foxnews.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 09:20 PM
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Yeah, the minute any non-liberal (conservative, libertarian, etc) says anything critical of any liberal, he's immediately branded a racist, sexist, homophobe, baby killer, etc. Its a great debate tactic. Call the opposition a bad thing so they have to spend all their time defending themselves rather than making their original point.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 09:24 PM
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So you don't believe that such people exist, and if so, shouldn't be pointed out, or do you object to the labeling as a debate tactic. If it's true, it's true. If not, then yeah, I'd agree the slander is out-of-place.



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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 10:18 PM
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Sure, there are a lot of racist and sexist people, but not as many as the liberal activists want us to believe. They want us to think nothing has changed since 1950. Of course, if they acknowledged that things has improved, the activists would have to find a real jpb. If there's a white male conspiracy to keep everyone else down, I'm not on the mailing list.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 11:16 PM
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Example... it is OK to maky a stereotypical show about organized crime (Italians) but not one about violent blacks? I'm Italian... That show pisses me off. I even told my dad not to get HBO anymore. I had people ask all through college if that was how my family acted... what part of NO don't they understand? All I watch now if Sci-fi and Foxnews.

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 11:32 PM
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i love you guys.........i thought i was the only conservative on the vast www.........heh not really but anyway. mcarthyist tactics have been used by the liberals forever

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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 11:33 PM
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heh it linked that....oh well

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 12:06 AM
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Well no, in some ways it's just like the fifties. I've been to places since I've been here in Tulsa that refused to serve me. Now, not being a particularly passive guy, I'm usually one to speak up...but dying for a cheeseburger when it's obvious I'll have to fight my way out of the place isn't a wise choice of battlegrounds.

As far as the making stories of violent blacks...hell, if I just landed on the planet and looked at the news I'd think that black people did nothing BUT crime. I'd look at the prison population and determine that black people MUST be predisposed to doing crime as they make up 60-80% (depending on which stats you choose) of the prison population and 14% of the general pop.

Granted that's not an excuse for what you're annoyed about in regards to HBO, but as far as being labeled violent, I'd have to say that at the very least, the Soprano's are given intellegence...not likened unto animals...OZ, COPS...etc.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 01:24 AM
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true, true. i hate that. im not racist. i dont look at skin color really. but when i think its absurd for americans to pay reparations for slavery, or affirmative action is wrong, people call me a racist. all i want is fairness. equal opportunity. its funny. all the 'civil rights' groups want us to all be one race, yet when they gain something out of it (affirmative action, etc) you know damn well they are gonna let EVERYONE know they are a minority! what hypocrites.


we should make a politics thread in ramblings

clpower: just talk about all the people who spoke their mind and got in trouble for it. youll raise a lot of eyebrows in the administration. talk about how many people are shut down from the mainstream media, etc because their views are too 'radical' good luck

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 01:46 AM
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If I got a head start on the game of life, thru unfair treatment, intentional racism, slavery, unequal education, inequal justice, lack of voting rights, whatever, for years, and years and years and decades, and generations, well, when it is all of a sudden not the right thing to do anymore, I would want to call everything even and everybody should be created equal starting now. Go.

I think all of the racists and bigots in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s were told specifically that their actions, while cool and great and profitable for them and theirs at the time, would adversely affect their children and grandchilden's lifemost of the 21st century and that the 70s, 80s, and 90s would be the ugly years of change. They ignored it and it is happening. Blame your father and grandfather and great grandfather for running this country the wrong way.

When you get an unfair headstart on the race, at least in this country, you even up the race by bringing those in the rear forward until the race is even again. Based on what I've seen in the past, and especially in Tulsa, Oklahoma, that [calling the race even again] won't happen in any of our lifetimes.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 01:58 AM
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Isn't it interesting (pathetic really) that the same people who preach tolerance are they themselves INTOLERANT when an opposing view point is shared? Very good point mdaniel and I couldn't agree with you more.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mdaniel:
Yeah, the minute any non-liberal (conservative, libertarian, etc) says anything critical of any liberal, he's immediately branded a racist, sexist, homophobe, baby killer, etc. Its a great debate tactic. Call the opposition a bad thing so they have to spend all their time defending themselves rather than making their original point.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 02:08 AM
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ahh geez Mike's gone soft

i have to regulate

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