Yesterday I finally got my Neuspeed front sway bar. After 3 months of backorders and order screw ups it came in.

Out of the box it looks cooler (because of the yellow Neuspeed silkscreening on the bar).

The bar itself is about 2x heavier than Comptech (just guessing when I picked up one and the other).

I put it in and went for a spin. Theory says there should be more understeer with the stiffer bar, but I didn't notice much difference on first impressions.

Where I noticed a HUGE difference was on cloverleafs. There is one coming home from my work (it's a 60 KPH cloverleaf). I take it everyday, and usually I'll wind up the CL around that curve. I found with the Comptech bar, when I hit 75-80 KPH, she started to feel loose. Every bump would cause a little side to side rocking which freaked the snot out of me.

With the Neuspeed, I hit the same cloverleaf doing 95 KPH. Car felt tight, and you could feel body lean. So, with the Neuspeed, I find I can take curves 20 KPH (13 MPH) faster than with Comptech.


Anyone found urethane sway bar bushings for the CL-S? The back Comptech came with them, the front uses the crappy rubber ones. I know Energy makes some universal ones, but we have a weird bushing that has a tapered bottom (not flat), so I'm thinking they probably don't have one for that.

Any ideas?

 

what are u using in the back of your CL Neuspeed or Comptech? From what I know the comptech is a solid rear at 22 mm and the Neuspeed is a 19 mm or race 25 mm, which is not recommended for our suspension unless more mods are done to it.

 

prothane sells urathane front bushing. it's not listed on their site, so you have to call them.

 

The Comptech is a 19mm back (Eibach is promissing the 22mm). I have the Comptech bar in the back. I figured it's solid and so is the Neuspeed, so there was no real benefit in swapping it out (unless they are made out of different pring steel). I was thinking about the 25mm Neuspeed, but the Neuspeed tech warned me against it.

I find the Rear Comptech works really good. Personally, I don't think the front Comptech is much better than stock. Most of the benefit from the Comptech's was that solid rear bar.

 

stock rear =19mm
comtech rear =22mm
neuspeed rear =19mm (made for accords, before CL was born)
neuspeed rear "race" =25mm
eibach rear = 23mm (not available yet)

fronts are all 27mm
but:
stock is hollow
comptech is hollow, but thicker walls then stock
neuspeed is solid
eibach is solid

all rears come with new bushings
all reuse front stock bushing
prothane.com offers a new 27mm front polyurethane bushing (red)

 

The rear for the comptech is 22 mm and not 19mm. The stock is 19mm in the rear and 27 mm hollow in the front. I am going to try to use the comptech rear with the front stock see how the car handles for the next few weeks. I want to reduce understeer as much as possible.

 

Whoops, my mistake. I knew that too, Since Comptech supplies new rear bushings.

I find with all that weight up front, you get a bunch of body roll at the front end. Neuspeed really get's rid of that.

The HLSD basically removes the understeer during cornering (assuming you're using the throttle). Otherwise it's quite noticeable (even with the comptechs).

 

It's been two weeks now, and the Neuspeed bars are tight! Damn!

I love the way she handles now. I don't feel any understeer at all anymore with the Neuspeeds. The only time I can get it to understeer is mashing the throttle in a lower gear during a corner. But, it's not the bar's fault that tires slip, and you lose steering. I had that same problem stock and with the Comptech's. I think it's the only negative of the HLSD.....

The car feels neutral now. Really sweet to drive!

 

You should try the 25mm Race Only Rear Sway from Neuspeed!!
I can't believe how much more handling the car has now!!!
I still like your combo. 27mm solid front with a 22mm solid rear.
I went for all out handling!!! Looking forward to some serious
twisties in the spring and summer!!!

 

Someone did their homework!!! Can you post a link to their site??

 

Nice I didn't know about the Neuspeed being solid front should make steering alot better and tighter. So why can't you use the 25mm race bar in the back if its used for racing right or do they only mean on the race tracks>

 

Here is a pic of the box for the rear sway. It's not that can't use it, its just not recommended for street use.

 

So you recommend the Neuspeeds over the Comptechs? Where's the best place to buy the Neuspeeds?

 

I do.

The catch is Neuspeed doesn't sell a 22mm rear (just a 19mm rear). You can buy the 25mm rear-race bar, but it was been known to tear some sub-frame connectors loose if driven over rough terrain.

I am totally amazed with how much the solid Neuspeed tightened up the front. The car is really heavy up front, and it improves things 10 fold over Comptech. Makes her sure footed like a mountain goat (not an old Donkey!)

I ordered up a set of Prothane bushings for the front as well (to take the slop out of the rubber ones).

FYI:
The reason cars are sold with understeer is to protect the driver from his stupidity. When you hit a corner hard with understeer, the car just slides and won't turn. The safest solution. If it had oversteer, then the ass end would come loose first (not the nicest thing to happen at high speed). A truely neutral car is the nicest to drive, but the car gives no warning when you push the tires to the maximum. You basically get a flat spin into the ditch.

 

It's too bad Comptech doesn't sell their sways seperately. Any drawbacks to going with a pure Neuspeed setup; i.e. having the 19mm in the back? Or is most of the difference made up front?

Also, what are your feelings on a strut bar, like the Neuspeed or the Cusco? Worth it?

 

I agree. Eibach is coming out with a 22mm rear though.

I know the 22mm made a big difference over stock. I'm thinking bigger would probably be better. Not sure though.

As for the strut bar, somebody posted that Honda is known for it's rigid frame, so it's just throwing money away. Personally, the bars make it pretty tight, and I'm not sure if you'd see anything from the strut bar (other than a cool look). I'm happy with how solid she is with the stock strut brace.

 

You are probably talking about me...since the only recorded report about a Neuspeed bar breaking anything was when I got into a high speed accident and when I tried to go over a ditch (in an angle) going in reverse with a full load. I have yet to see anyone else say anything...then again, these bars are alot rarer than Comptechs. So...in order to have rumours, you must first have a source, and until recently, I've been the only source!

As for sub-frame damage...people still believe that crap? It's been about 1.5 years since I had them, and I keep telling you guys...before the subframe goes...with ANY sways, the 2 weakest link that will go first is...

#1 rear brackets (which can be replaced for $15).
#2 end link rods (which the core is made up of plastic).

But...until you replace your end link rods with all metal ones, you don't have to worry about frame damage because the enlink rods will break away (kinda like a fuse in a circuit). Now...I have heard rumours about Comptech users breaking their endlink rods, but as I keep saying over and over again...unless you replace these with aftermarket ones, then you shouldn't worry so much.

But...like EricL always says...ymmv.

 

so would you guy suggest this neuspeed front with comptech rear combination? I'm about to buy myself a CT rear sway...

 

Yup!

That's what I run, and it's sweet! Neuspeed tightens the front up more than the CT, and the CT back is better than the Neuspeed.....