NOVAwhiteTypeS

Yup thats right, the escort saved me TWICE from laser since last night. Once it was on the beltway *495* coming from alex to springfield. Im crusing at 75mph and all of a sudden FULL BLAST alert on the escort LASER!!

"FUCK i got nailed"

but cop was no where to be seen. I immed. move over to the slower lane. then about 5 seconds later I see a cop on the ditch shooting that shit.

Well this morning before going to work I'm enjoying the 70degrees weather in NOVA and drove to the GYM. Well I never see cops on this 10% incline road, (35mph) out of no where I get a fooken FULL BLAST LASER just like yesturday while driving 50.

Right next to me was some early 90's japanese sedan. and he was basically going the same speed as I was. Well right past the hill, what do ya know?

2 fairfax county police shooting laser STANDING on the side of the road, flagging the car that was in front of me to pull over.

hehe, I was cracken up passen his ass at 35mph.

thanx to the ESCORT , who says you can't detect laser?

Shotgun3131

damn thats nice.

Bill Faure

Yeah my 8500 has saved me from laser too. Unfortunately, it's becoming more and more common with the Florida Highway Patrol. You should be glad you weren't shot at first. You and I both were lucky enough to get warning from someone else being shot at. I hate to admit it, but there will probably come a day when our 8500's will only let us know we've ben caught. With laser and instant on Ka we've lost the advantage when shot at first.

digitalgm

You should come meet me up in springfield some time for lunch.... whadda ya say. PM me or AIM me "Adams65Stang"

AdamR

Neech

It is possible to out brake the older laser guns due to the processing time they required (1-2 secs) but the newer ones are almost instantaneous. I did this twice but if you really want an advantage, get a laser jammer.

JSuppi

Drive around all the time w/ your headlights on & no front plate Now I don't know if it actually works, but I think the philosophy is sound.

The headlights should diffuse the laser at little (I personally believe this, but someone else want to chime in) & of course I am pretty sure having no 'reflective' front plate basically leaves them nothing to shoot at with the laser. I believe most agencies are taught when they use the laser, to shoo the vehicle either at the front plate, or at the front of the vehicle (headlight reflective housing/casing??)

Pappy

Yeah, well the 8500 saved my ass too, also a little bit of luck. I was heading west through the sugar fields on RT 80 at 6 AM on my way to Naples. I wanted to see what the car would do, so I decked it. Got up to 135 and the 8500 said "LASER." Took my foot off the gas and wound up going by the police call at about 80. Boy was I lucky that by the time I went by him he was taking a leak in the canal. Man, was that ever close. They would have thrown me in the slammer for sure.

kensteele

Great laser story. Sounds like mine and others when we were "saved", it's such a great feeling to actually witness laser being detected when YOU are not the target of laser. Yes, it actually works if you are so lucky!

But I gotta believe in VA the cops are a bit lacky because they are operating under the assumption that they are invincible or undetectable. But in the rest of country, laser cops believe you can't detect them either (if they even care at all).

After you detect laser, you sorta look at your equipment differently. It's sorta like when you...well never mind.

mlrspwr

Great to hear the 8500 saving someone else from laser. If you've got some company ahead of you on the road and you aren't driving too crazy, the 8500 may save you. Man, and the sound as laser is detected, it is like hearing a gunshot or something. They did a good job of correlating the noise the detector makes to the seriousness/effectiveness of the speed-clocking tool in the cop's hand. Haha, that'll scare anyone into speed compliance!

Neech

I use to think that too until my friend made the local PD and quickly shoot-down that theory. Makes no difference. = ( The only thing that works is a little luck and/or a jammer.

NOVAwhiteTypeS

im off from sat~ thursday 09/19/02

aim-> joekim1113

2003CLTYPES

I must also add that my 8500 has saved me from laser once. I was going up a hill that has a passing lane, going 85+ in a 55 when all of a sudden, the laser is going wild. I slow down and think I am caught. Little did I know, I did not get pulled over. It probably helped that I did not have a front license plate at this time since my car was brand new.

TypeSKid

I wonder if that myth is really true. It totally makes sense.

btw, your 6 speed looks awesome in white. Thats a good color choice.

Bill Faure

Gentlemen, allow me to dispell some myths. My brother is a deputy sheriff for Highlands county, Florida. He just completed laser stalker 9000 training 1 month ago. He told me the following: Laser is instantanious. You can not out brake it while it processes. It does not need to be reflected by a license plate! Aiming directly at the car will get a reflection. Head lights will not atenuate the laser beam. Not Xenon, not halogen, not other wise. Here's the scary part. Jammers do NOT work. The laser stalker 9000 works on 3 differernt laser frequencies. If the laser gun senses that it is being jamed on one frequency it auto switches to another. When it senses the jamming threat is over it auto switches back to the primary frequency. Using three frequenices it can auto switch up to 3 times a second. All the switching is transparent to the user. Both of the secondary frequencies are not detectable by current radar detectors. Luckily, the primary frequncy is detectable by current radar detectors. There you go we have lost the advantage in the highway wars. One last note: the laser stalker 9000 is the most expensive radar/laser gun in the industry. It'll take a while before every police department has it. Unfortunately, we have all seen every electronic device come out as very expensive at first. A couple years later their price has been cut in half. I see no reason why that wouldn't apply here as well

Neech

The Bel 904 jammer works on everything current, that's why I upgraded over the summer to it. The Blidder did a great job but yes, could not jam the new guns. The guns are instantaneous but that's when it gets a good reflection. Waiting for that reflection can take a sec or 2 which gives us a chance.

I tested both units w/ the local PD and the DO work. Very well as a matter of fact. I'm going to ask if they have this new Stalker. Maybe the State does but their assholes and probably won't cooperate with the test. Jammer-On.

Bill Faure

As mentioned Neech the new gun frequency hops. If your jammer tries to jam it one frequecy it temporarily jumps to another frequncy. This can happen three times in a second! If your jammer doesn't frequency hop with it (and it doesn't) you will be caught!

Neech

I've searched high and low for this but haven't found anything. If it's true it's a problem but not wide spread yet. Hopefull the warning from the first signal will give enough time to slow down before the backups switch on.

I called my friend to see if they've heard about it and if so, if they can get one.

Bill Faure

The one my brother trained on is the next generation of this:
http://www.stalkerradar.com/law_lidar.html

The one in the link does not have the frequency hoping capability. I was very discouraged to read about the inclement weather capability. My brother didn't tell me about that! I was under the impression that laser light was dispersed by water drops and therefore unusable in the rain. Apparently they found a way around that. We're screwed!!! Advantage cops!!!

Scrib

Perhaps the inclement weather mode is nothing more than widening the beam width???

Laser light is refracted off water droplets, but maybe the way around that is to widening the beam. Now the beam has more of a chance to reach the target and return...

If this is the case, then detectors would have a better chance picking up the signal, as a) there is more beam to detect b) some of the beam that is lost due to refraction could be picked up (again, because there is more beam)

kensteele

I could be wrong and I have been known to be wrong a time or two. So here goes, I am going to throw something out here in this discussion, but my experience like most others with laser is very limited.

I thought the police were only allowed to operate on a certain frequency? This is true for radar as well as laser? When they make a laser detector, don't they create them to detect laser light amongst the vast but certainly limited range of frequency? Since when is the police allowed to operate on another frequency that current radar detectors can't detect?

Caveats to this is that of course the FCC can expand on the range. I'm not talking about the cheap radar detectors that come with limited capabilities...how about V1 or 8500?

I know the Stalker is awesome but it's gonna take more than a machine to catch real speeders. Who needs a jammer? I honestly don't believe they work that well anyway. That's my 2 cents.

Someone help me with the "you can detect the one laser frequency but the other two are undetectable by current radar" business. If they are operating on unapproved spectrum...I think we need to know this.