ktown378

alright,

i don't know how many of you guys will see this...and i haven't posted in a while so i don't know how many of you will care :\


BUT, being the dumbass i am...i drove through some water that was much deeper than i had figured. so my car died, didn't try to restart it...got water in there though. and seeing as how i have a CAI (no bypass) i don't think insurance will cover it, even if it's full coverage. any suggestions on what i should do? i'm gonna get it towed to acura tomorrow morning. i think about 2 qts got sucked in, and it died quick. any ideas whatsoever are welcome...but please keep the insults to a minimum cause i'm about to punch myself in the nuts repeatedly. thanks guys.

AkuraCLS

you may not be fucked..what u need to do is pull all the plugs, and crank it over. water will squirt out the cylinders.. after all the water is out, put the plugs back in, and try and start it (make sure there is no more water 1st)

i just went through the same thing on my Z..lucky me, it starts, but my compression is kinda fucked..just hope for the best, and prepare for the worst...just do me a favor
let me know what ur insurance says if you do go that way..i maybe on the same boat
thanks

b16-to-j30a1

before you take the car to acura, put the factory airbox and intake back on car. they dont know you had a CAI on the car (unless you told them). just tell them you ran up on a huge puddle of water and front end of car was a little submerged....
this same thing happened to me when I had a civic. (deep enough water though, would have happened either way) I went through insurance though, who came and looked at it and then cut me a fat check, furthering my jdm motor swap funds....

RaviNJCLs

iTrader: (4)

Remove the plugs and crank the engine. Then drain the oil. Change the spark plugs. And more than likely you will be OK. Then go to the store and get a bypass for the CAI, or an ICEBOX
If it doesn't work, definately swap out the CAI for the stock air filter. Insurance should cover it without a problem.
Good luck.

mykemcnasty2

yea, the same thing just happened to me. Take out the plugs, change your oil a couple times. I also got my engine flushed because there was a funny filmy substance in my engine. All should be well.

zamo

What are the symptoms?

evilstorm

by-pass would not have helped if you went into a puddle anyways..

ktown378

well i was just googling and i came across this thread...

"There is an Easy solution to HydroLock, Take your car or have it towned to your nearest Jiffy Lube or any Lube Place that Does Motor Flushing... When they flush the motor they take out the internal electrics, sprak plugs ect. then they run a high pressured Cleaning fluid threw your car, then they repeat the prosecces.. Then after that they Pressure Heat dry the insides and it removes everything. there will not be any oil or anything left or water or any junk in your Cylinders or oil chambers.. it just like the motor was just assembled on the line at the factory, then they put Oil in it, New spark plugs, and filters and anything else, and you are after going threw that will start... Just like jet skis. when they flood with slat water they flush the motor its called engine flushing... Actualy if you go yo a Mitsubishi Dealer ship they will do it for 70 $.. and then you have to pay for plugs and oil ... i know this because i had a 2002 Galant that i got into an accident with... but before that i drove threw 2.5 feet of water with a CAI and hydrolocked.. i called mitsu they said bring it in i did hey flushed the motor thook bout 2 hours and i had my car back and running agian.. Hydrolock is no big deal actual because theres ways to fix it cheap and easy.. because think of it this way.. when u get something in your motor, and you get it flushed and Dried its like brand new. and when they put the oil back in theres no foreign substance to prevent ignition or the cylinders. Good luck.."

what do you guys think? cheaper than raping my premium and worth a shot?

kevin79925

good info.

Shawn S

Not really…there’s a LOT of false information in that post.

kevin79925

so what would be the correct procedure for hydro lock.

Shawn S

If enough water gets inside a cylinder and the piston comes up and tries to compress it, shit is gonna BEND and no amount of “flushing” will fix that.

ktown378

so suggestions other than calling insurance company?

chabanais

Having a CAI may look cool but doesn't seem really that smart if something like this happens.

Red-CL

Then what is the purpose of them?

evilstorm

to take out some of the watter and what not...a 2.5 foot puddle would overtake that thing. edit: i have no idea what im talking about...just seems reasonable

ferizzo

Doesn't hurt to try jiffy lube but Shawn is right, if anything is bent then you are fuxored! And if your integrity isn't an issue then change the CAI with the stock box. I'm not condoning nor am I bashing but its really a question on where your integrity stands.

Either way good luck and let us know how it goes.

Shawn S

I’m not saying I’m positive your engine is hosed.
Try the above suggestions to see if you got lucky.
I was just stressing the fact that those methods are not going to fix EVERY case of water ingestion like the thread implied.

As for going with insurance, I don’t know if anyone’s ever tried that.
They might hassle you over the aftermarket part since it’s DEFINITELY at fault here.
Well, that and the fact that you drove through deep water.

Linner

This is how I lost my car....except my car was stuck in about 3 ft of water for 15mins...I started my car about 8 hrs later and it was running......But then since soo much water got inside the car they claimed it a total loss. As long as you dont start the car in the water or hit the gas you should be fine......Also the insurance co did see all my mods and they were nice enough to even let me take them all out.....they reimbursed my the Kelly Blue Book value of the car....and i got to resell the mods so i guess im happy.....

ghost_masterCL

damn, mang. I almost wish that happened to my car and I got hte KBB value for my car. I'd get a good 16k, adn I only paid 11k

mykemcnasty2

Insurance probably won't reinburse you if you are driving the car into a large amount of water. I'm not 100% on this but i thought the only way to get insurance coverage was if your car was parked. And yes I know they will still cover you, but im talking about insurance rates not going sky high. And yes Shawn S is correct, it could have possibly done more damage than a easy flush, oil, and plug change. But in most case scenarios seen in this forum, I believe that most people have been able to fix this problem with this easy alternative.

proaudio22

Guy I knew hydrolocked his Mitsu Eclipe (IE totally fscked). He had a CAI on it, no bypass. His insurance bought him a new car.

Red-CL

You jerk.

I thought you had some inside info mofo.

b16-to-j30a1

so will the car start?.... if it doesn't start (after you have pulled plugs and removed any water - and only after) then you my friend are screwed..... no turn over usually means bent valve. At least it did for me. All this engine flush stuff is bs. You cant flush a valve straight...
.... the bypass would be good for a few drops of rain, or maybe an engine cleaning, but a puddle of water that reaches the intake pipe will almost always win.

ktown378

hey guys. thanks for all the inquiries and stuff. acura called me earlier today and they said they took out one of the plugs and they could actually see water. so basically i'm screwed. i just have to decide on what to do as of right now. not too sure what's gonna happen with the ins. appraiser when he comes to look at the car

AkuraCLS

keep us up to date

NOLACLS

I would at least try the Jiffy lube thing!!! I don't know about this to much but it seems that you would always see water when you remove the plugs after something like this. Didn't someone just say when you remove the plugs and turn it over water will squirt out...that to me says you should see water there. Maybe its that Acura dealer not feeling like doing the work to fix it when they can just say ur fuked but a new engine from us. As far as Ins. goes my sister drove through a puddle of water in her tarus...she in no way is into modding...she is a mother of 2 and so on. The Ins. covered it fully and totaled her car and so on. So I would try the jiffy lube thing...cant hurt...if its fuked its fuked and you cant do much more to it. If that don't work then you can do whatever you want after that as far as the Ins co goes. Just my 2 pennies

Good luck and keep us posted....

ktown378

alright guys. check it out...that jiffy lube thing actually worked. but i got it done at acura since my car was already there. so i didn't use my insurance because it was under my deductible and car seems to be running fine. i can't believe how lucky i am. oh yeah, the guy pulled a gallon of water from my oil pan :o

NOLACLS

Thats awesome....you are very lucky!

Linner

LOL I got 16600......

MtBikR

I would disagree, hydro lock with a bypass would be very unlikely.

CLpower

common sense should prevent something like this from happening

CLpower

the bypass isn't the great piece you all tend to believe it is

car_lost

evilstorm

do you really think that the bypass would be able to suck up a puddle 2+ feet deep? what are you smokin on? they found a gallon of water in the oil pan. the bypass wouldve done _nothing_

MtBikR

I am not wrong, I am not making it out to be more than it is. Show me a case of engine lock, I am sure using the vast resources of the internet that you could find one if there was. But I have seen live demonstrations that lead me to believe it works as described if properly install at the right lenght given the configuration, not only in foot deep water but for a sustained period. I just disagree, not need to comment on cronic habit

mt6forlife

Does anyone remember that video floating around the net of the NSX with a bypass where they submerged the end of the intake in a tank of water?

Also, how far off the ground is the inlet on a icebox?

Shawn S

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0104scc_tested/

There's a video too, but I couldn't find that.