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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Put a 250 shot on it for the week and have fun with it. HAHA
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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It's a 2.7L V6... not the HEMI - nice looking, but a dooogg!!
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Big enough room out back to haul lots of parts though.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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u cant even get traction with your current set up, i would figure that part out before you move on
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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As much as i'd love to see an 700-800hp CL-S, I agree with Darrin on this one.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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You know the guy who is having his Accord built at Garage Kwai (9.0:1 pistons, blower, IC, etc) is having custom axles installed as well. I don't know how much or even if they could work with the CL-S6 but if they have the contacts to have the axles made it is a start. 700-800 hp is ALOT.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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u cant even get traction with your current set up, i would figure that part out before you move on
I have that part figured out IF I were to take it to the track... otherwise I just want more power

Under daily driving conditions it might have about 50-80 more hp... its the potential that I care more about.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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what are you considering? drag-poles?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.

http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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That looks awesome!! What turbo is that? Also, what's the chassis - it is RWD. I am sure that setup is making 1200hp
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Yes, its rear wheel drive with monster meats on the back. Capable of up to 1000hp @ 35-40 poumds of boost but the motor does not like the abuse. Its a closed deck block and the turbo is actually too large, switched to a smaller one in that pic and made better "managable" power.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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What's the displacement? Did you blow up a block at 1000hp? Do you know any further details such as the compression ratio, bore, stroke, type of pistons, rods etc.?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.

http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.

http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/

Um yea...
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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ram, if your gonna run between 15-20 lbs of boost, how low does ur compression ratio have to be???
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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9.0:1 should be about right for 15-20 psi. 9.5:1 might be pushing it. So somewhere in that range i'd think would be optimal. I think the head gasket is the weak link when you start bumping the boost beyond 10psi. Hard to hold all that boost in an engine designed for a 10.5:1 CR without boost.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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The factory gasket will hold 15psi or even 20psi as long as everything is assembled properly. Remember that 9.0:1 static compression reduces cylinder-pressure somewhat but the boost will keep the air flowing quite well.

A well-built 9.0:1 motor will handle 15psi on a daily-basis even on 91-octane. That could translate to about 500whp on a stroker motor.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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Just picture the Supra TT... those things can put 800whp on the factory motor! Then take all the EVO's out there... several of them (2.0L, mind you) are making 500hp very easily. So... what would a J37A2 make w/ VTEC
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.

http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
Holy Jesus.......
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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Dude, Your out of control!!!!

MORE PICS PLEASE!!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:24 AM
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wow. ram can't touch that. and out of nowhere
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
You know the guy who is having his Accord built at Garage Kwai (9.0:1 pistons, blower, IC, etc) is having custom axles installed as well. I don't know how much or even if they could work with the CL-S6 but if they have the contacts to have the axles made it is a start. 700-800 hp is ALOT.
axles can be made and will be for this much output. you can get axels to hold 1000+ hp. and yes, we can get our cars to hook up. my concern is the chassi, but we'll see. i wouldn't hold the revs at 6k and drop the clutch, it will have to be "coaxed" out of the hole and the setup will have to make the power from 3k rpm and up.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.

http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
that does bring up lots of questions, are you going to give us any specifics?

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/trlloyd4444
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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Holy FAWK!!!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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The engine was built for us from a reputable engine builder in Indiana who has built several Gran-National motors in the past for Pro-Stock cars. The stroke is stock but the block was sleeved and decked. The turbo was built & modified by Turbonetics (dont remember the size). Running JE pistons 89mm bore, Crowler forged rods and "Big-Stuff" stand-alone fuel management. Beleive it or not, it still has the stock cams in it as well. It doesnt like the 30+ pounds of boost but were working on that. Last time out we burnt a hole in a piston the size of a silver dollar due to boost pressure and heat. New motor is in and should be back on the dyno late January.

This project is being done by Honda of America up here in Anna, Ohio. We started a drag-team this year and are attempting to get this monster to the track this year coming up.
Sorry if Im not too detaield on particular items but I cant release too much info at this time.

Hope you guys enjoyed the pics.

Oh...
The aluminum riser in the pic underneith the intake manifold is to get the throttle body (which is in the back) aimed up high enough to get to the heat-exchanger in the car which is positioned beside the drivers seat. (gets pretty warm in there).
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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That's not a CL-S is it?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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What transmission?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Its a Honda Civic fiberglass body, 3.2L CL-S motor turned 90° and rear-wheel-drive.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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Its a Honda Civic fiberglass body, 3.2L CL-S motor turned 90° and rear-wheel-drive.

Wow. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou

This project is being done by Honda of America up here in Anna, Ohio. We started a drag-team this year and are attempting to get this monster to the track this year coming up.


quiet possibly the most important information you could've given............ HAC/AAC doing the R&D on possible turbo application for the the Acura line?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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No. This turbo-setup is for racing only. All parts for the turbo are from outside companies made specificaly for racing.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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No. This turbo-setup is for racing only. All parts for the turbo are from outside companies made specificaly for racing.


sure.....but still cool factor
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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With that much money into the race-car I can't imagine why you wouldn't thermo-coat the piston (some kind of thermal barrier coating) which is a very common practice now.

Anyways... very nice car and good project - I see a belt-driven oil-pump up there, correct?

Building a custom-car gives a lot of freedom... sticking to a street-driven full-chassis car with A/C, Nav, Airbags, leather, etc. is a different type of a challenge.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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wow. ram can't touch that. and out of nowhere
Sorry, but that's a pretty ignorant comment. Of course my car could never compete with that racecar - its quite obvious. When someone who is not a regular to this board comes and puts up some useful information - we all have the J-series motor and can learn from people who race with them! - let's not create an awkward atmosphere please!

Any information about any racecar is most welcome here, IMO; and its not a competition. It that individual wanted to build a street-car, I am sure he would. If I wanted to build a racecar, I would do that quite well actually!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
The engine was built for us from a reputable engine builder in Indiana who has built several Gran-National motors in the past for Pro-Stock cars. The stroke is stock but the block was sleeved and decked. The turbo was built & modified by Turbonetics (dont remember the size). Running JE pistons 89mm bore, Crowler forged rods and "Big-Stuff" stand-alone fuel management. Beleive it or not, it still has the stock cams in it as well. It doesnt like the 30+ pounds of boost but were working on that. Last time out we burnt a hole in a piston the size of a silver dollar due to boost pressure and heat. New motor is in and should be back on the dyno late January.

This project is being done by Honda of America up here in Anna, Ohio. We started a drag-team this year and are attempting to get this monster to the track this year coming up.
Sorry if Im not too detaield on particular items but I cant release too much info at this time.

Hope you guys enjoyed the pics.

Oh...
The aluminum riser in the pic underneith the intake manifold is to get the throttle body (which is in the back) aimed up high enough to get to the heat-exchanger in the car which is positioned beside the drivers seat. (gets pretty warm in there).
sounds like a tuning problem, hmmmm
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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damm that motor is sick. what pulleys are those in the pics. and how hard was it to get a tranny to mate up with the engine sideways?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:57 PM
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All custom billet pulleys. A Liberty Pro-Stock tranny was used with a custm adapter plate and wasnt to bad to mount up to the engine.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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How did you modify the oil pick-up because with the motor now torquing from the front to the back... and the factory pick-up is up front (near the pulleys), the motor might starve for oil. Custom oil-pan and pick-up?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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it had to be. i think just about everything on that motor is custom. just like yours ram. i hate all 3 of you guys (allmotor blue cls6 and bluebyyou) . damm turbo cl-ses..
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I bought TypeR's old block... MUCH cheaper
Ram- what did you decide when it comes to sleeves for this block?
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