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09-02-2002, 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by AC
I agree with you for the most part. I owned a modded TL (which at that time pulled more HP and TQ than stock CLS across the entire band). Car is strong IMO up to about 90...I don't know about 110-115. Like I said, ask Novawhite, on a freeway, he took off first and had momentum going then I decided to chase and almost rear ended him. In my TL, after 100 I lost to a stock VR6...he pulled on me until I hit VTEC and eventually started to gain.
As far as peak number...to me they mean shit. If you don't have the power accross the entire band, what good is peak. Sure it's great to say "my headers gave me 20HP peak" but what does that really translate to?
I agree with you for the most part. I owned a modded TL (which at that time pulled more HP and TQ than stock CLS across the entire band). Car is strong IMO up to about 90...I don't know about 110-115. Like I said, ask Novawhite, on a freeway, he took off first and had momentum going then I decided to chase and almost rear ended him. In my TL, after 100 I lost to a stock VR6...he pulled on me until I hit VTEC and eventually started to gain.
As far as peak number...to me they mean shit. If you don't have the power accross the entire band, what good is peak. Sure it's great to say "my headers gave me 20HP peak" but what does that really translate to?
09-03-2002, 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by Maximized
Sounds like you killed an Auto E36. Manual E36 M3's run very low 14s, which only a CL-S 6 speed would beat.
Sounds like you killed an Auto E36. Manual E36 M3's run very low 14s, which only a CL-S 6 speed would beat.
This place is full of retards who can't stand to see us beat anything more than a Neon. Everytime a kill is posted it's "but" something. "But there's this one guy who managed to do 13.5 in X car, so NO ONE CAN EVER DO LESS THAN THAT EVER ANYWHERE SO YOU'RE A LIAR." Grow the fuck up, faggots.
09-03-2002, 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by JRock
Sounds like another idiot post by someone talking out of their ass. Fuck Racing Stories.
This place is full of retards who can't stand to see us beat anything more than a Neon. Everytime a kill is posted it's "but" something. "But there's this one guy who managed to do 13.5 in X car, so NO ONE CAN EVER DO LESS THAN THAT EVER ANYWHERE SO YOU'RE A LIAR." Grow the fuck up, faggots.
Sounds like another idiot post by someone talking out of their ass. Fuck Racing Stories.
This place is full of retards who can't stand to see us beat anything more than a Neon. Everytime a kill is posted it's "but" something. "But there's this one guy who managed to do 13.5 in X car, so NO ONE CAN EVER DO LESS THAN THAT EVER ANYWHERE SO YOU'RE A LIAR." Grow the fuck up, faggots.
09-03-2002, 02:59 AM
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Well, I think BMW saw these kind of arguments coming, that is why they did away with the US spec 240hp engine and now sell the 333hp engine worldwide, to dismiss any arguements....
Cause you got Lexus owners talking about getting in a M3s ass too
New M3=drool......
Cause you got Lexus owners talking about getting in a M3s ass too
New M3=drool......
09-03-2002, 03:19 AM
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car 900, approx 80 degrees, 200 ft.
09-03-2002, 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by AC
I agree with you for the most part. I owned a modded TL (which at that time pulled more HP and TQ than stock CLS across the entire band). Car is strong IMO up to about 90...I don't know about 110-115. Like I said, ask Novawhite, on a freeway, he took off first and had momentum going then I decided to chase and almost rear ended him. In my TL, after 100 I lost to a stock VR6...he pulled on me until I hit VTEC and eventually started to gain.
As far as peak number...to me they mean shit. If you don't have the power accross the entire band, what good is peak. Sure it's great to say "my headers gave me 20HP peak" but what does that really translate to?
I agree with you for the most part. I owned a modded TL (which at that time pulled more HP and TQ than stock CLS across the entire band). Car is strong IMO up to about 90...I don't know about 110-115. Like I said, ask Novawhite, on a freeway, he took off first and had momentum going then I decided to chase and almost rear ended him. In my TL, after 100 I lost to a stock VR6...he pulled on me until I hit VTEC and eventually started to gain.
As far as peak number...to me they mean shit. If you don't have the power accross the entire band, what good is peak. Sure it's great to say "my headers gave me 20HP peak" but what does that really translate to?
), well thats going to be obvious. I don't have headers and my car seems to be strong I can't imagine when i get them.
09-03-2002, 10:11 AM
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Fast Gold, the SC will give me about 450HP at the crank....Trust me, I know what American muscle can do
TypeR, you're right, I did have a 2000TL but it was still faster than stock CLS which I had the pleasure of racing 3 or them...wish those guys were here on the forum!
Thoro, yes I was in my 540...but it was stock
TypeR, you're right, I did have a 2000TL but it was still faster than stock CLS which I had the pleasure of racing 3 or them...wish those guys were here on the forum!
Thoro, yes I was in my 540...but it was stock
09-03-2002, 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by AC
Fast Gold, the SC will give me about 450HP at the crank....Trust me, I know what American muscle can do
Fast Gold, the SC will give me about 450HP at the crank....Trust me, I know what American muscle can do
Its going to be fun, but i will have a Cam and headers over what i have now. Most likely i will have around 395-405RWHP which is 464-476 at the cranck with this setup. Of course i'm not going to use the 150 wet kit with ur 540 SC because i will be at 540RWHP and around 700RWTQ which means i have around 635HP and 823TQ at the cranck .
09-03-2002, 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by JRock
There's no need to craft an intelligent post when it's goal is to be read by a blithering idiot such as yourself.
There's no need to craft an intelligent post when it's goal is to be read by a blithering idiot such as yourself.
09-03-2002, 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by Fast Gold
Okey i want to run ur car after u get ur SC Its going to be fun, but i will have a Cam and headers over what i have now. Most likely i will have around 395-405RWHP which is 464-476 at the cranck with this setup. Of course i'm not going to use the 150 wet kit with ur 540 SC because i will be at 540RWHP and around 700RWTQ which means i have around 635HP and 823TQ at the cranck .
Okey i want to run ur car after u get ur SC
Its going to be fun, but i will have a Cam and headers over what i have now. Most likely i will have around 395-405RWHP which is 464-476 at the cranck with this setup. Of course i'm not going to use the 150 wet kit with ur 540 SC because i will be at 540RWHP and around 700RWTQ which means i have around 635HP and 823TQ at the cranck .
09-03-2002, 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by Maximized
Look at the timeslips of
Look at the timeslips of
That's your whole problem right there, you thick-headed moron. No one gives a goddamn about your stupid timeslips. What happened on the street is what happened and what people are reporting here. I don't give a fuck if X car goes 13.2 in the quarter mile with a professional driver and all the tweaks and tricks - if whomever is driving it next to a CLS at a traffic light can't do better than 14.5-15.0 seconds, we have and will kill it. I know it's tough on your ego, but learn to deal with reality sometime.
09-03-2002, 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
U ran a 17.025 at 59mph????
U ran a 17.025 at 59mph????
read your sig lately?
actually that was a GS400 in the left lane. poor fucker.
09-03-2002, 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by JRock
That's your whole problem right there, you thick-headed moron. No one gives a goddamn about your stupid timeslips. What happened on the street is what happened and what people are reporting here. I don't give a fuck if X car goes 13.2 in the quarter mile with a professional driver and all the tweaks and tricks - if whomever is driving it next to a CLS at a traffic light can't do better than 14.5-15.0 seconds, we have and will kill it. I know it's tough on your ego, but learn to deal with reality sometime.
That's your whole problem right there, you thick-headed moron. No one gives a goddamn about your stupid timeslips. What happened on the street is what happened and what people are reporting here. I don't give a fuck if X car goes 13.2 in the quarter mile with a professional driver and all the tweaks and tricks - if whomever is driving it next to a CLS at a traffic light can't do better than 14.5-15.0 seconds, we have and will kill it. I know it's tough on your ego, but learn to deal with reality sometime.
Im not talking about mag times...Im talking about times I personally see at the drag strip with normal joe schmo's driving. You on the other hand probably get your stats off Motor Trend. You thinking is flawed and contradictory. So from your way of thinking, every CL-S runs 14.5 to 15 flat ????? The problem with street races are that they can be BSed real easily. Hell I can claim I beat my friends Z06. I can also leave out the very important fact that he was no where close to being in the right gear.
BTW.....Before you go discrediting me again. Please post your actually racing experiences....ie what road tracks you have been to or what driving schools you have attended. Street racing doesnt count. The communication skills (faggot.. for example) you use indicates you are about 18 years old.
09-03-2002, 09:43 PM
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read your sig lately?
I guess YOU did not obviously, cause I was trying to be funny, damn...
[QUOTE]actually that was a GS400 in the left lane. poor fucker.[/QUOTE
Actually, he's probably a rich fucker. Go race a Civic Si or something.....
09-04-2002, 12:00 AM
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you suck at the internet 
09-04-2002, 08:11 AM
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more pointless shit
more pointless shit
09-04-2002, 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by JRock
That's your whole problem right there, you thick-headed moron. No one gives a goddamn about your stupid timeslips. What happened on the street is what happened and what people are reporting here. I don't give a fuck if X car goes 13.2 in the quarter mile with a professional driver and all the tweaks and tricks - if whomever is driving it next to a CLS at a traffic light can't do better than 14.5-15.0 seconds, we have and will kill it. I know it's tough on your ego, but learn to deal with reality sometime.
That's your whole problem right there, you thick-headed moron. No one gives a goddamn about your stupid timeslips. What happened on the street is what happened and what people are reporting here. I don't give a fuck if X car goes 13.2 in the quarter mile with a professional driver and all the tweaks and tricks - if whomever is driving it next to a CLS at a traffic light can't do better than 14.5-15.0 seconds, we have and will kill it. I know it's tough on your ego, but learn to deal with reality sometime.
09-04-2002, 08:45 AM
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Hey guys, on the 1/4 mile track the ET does matter because u can win or lose by it. Of course u should get a good reaction time. On the streeets what matters is the trapspseeeeeed. Who have a higher trapspseeed will win. Simple as that. I lost to a hooked up mustang that is setup for the 1/4 mile. He ran 13.14 at 103 to my 13.19 at 108. At the end of the 1/4mile i was catching really fast because my 60ft sucked big time with a 2.2 to his 1.6. Anyways i asked him if he wants to race after we get out of the track. He said okey. We raced on the streeeets from a roll and the guy didnt go anywhere. we did a roll from 20 and the guy didnt even hang to my rear bumper. I shut down at 100 and the guy was around 2 cars behind me.
09-04-2002, 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by Maximized
Yea moron you are great at repeating yourself.
Yea moron you are great at repeating yourself.
Get it through your thick skull that all your track and timeslip garbage excuses don't change the fact of reality - of what happened on the street. Your car runs 13s? That's great - too bad the ones CLSes have raced didn't, and so they lost. I know you can't accept the fact that not everyone can drive the car model you own as well as you can drive yours, but it's reality and sorry if it hurts your ego, but people aren't posting lies here. You're the only immature person, coming here and being ignorant and rude and calling us all liars when we relate our meager kills.
09-05-2002, 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS
I'll race any n/a E36 anyday can't promise i'll win but it'll be hell close.
I'll race any n/a E36 anyday can't promise i'll win but it'll be hell close.
09-06-2002, 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by mattg
car 900, approx 80 degrees, 200 ft.
car 900, approx 80 degrees, 200 ft.
Ummm thats with...
Intake
Headers
Pulleys
NO back seats
NO spare
And hardly any gas in tank
and most likely racing gas...
I'm not taking anything away from your runs... But lets be a lil realistic here for daily driving.
09-06-2002, 03:12 AM
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someone asked for a low 14 sec. time slip. i have one (actually several) and i posted it.
what the fuck do you want SiGGy
btw, in street trim i guarantee i would put some car lengths on you, from a stop or on the freeway.
what the fuck do you want SiGGy
btw, in street trim i guarantee i would put some car lengths on you, from a stop or on the freeway.
09-06-2002, 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by mattg
someone asked for a low 14 sec. time slip. i have one (actually several) and i posted it.
what the fuck do you want SiGGy
btw, in street trim i guarantee i would put some car lengths on you, from a stop or on the freeway.
someone asked for a low 14 sec. time slip. i have one (actually several) and i posted it.
what the fuck do you want SiGGy
btw, in street trim i guarantee i would put some car lengths on you, from a stop or on the freeway.
Put your money where your mouth is... (prolly gotta stand up for that one) If were gonna run, you should bring your car out here...
I have posted only my N/A timeslips on here....
My point being your one of few that runs those times.
Since were not talking about us racing, I don't quite se eyour point. But if you feel you have something to prove.... plz
No stock CLS runs low 14's was point. Your car is stripped and mod'd. Hardly anyone drives around like that. More power to ya though.
If I was back in Chicago, I would take you up on racing a M3. A few of my friends have e36's.
Insecure? (I don't get the racing me in my CLS... LOL)
Dude, I'm not taking anything *away* from your times.
Just pointing out your the exception, not the norm.
geeze
09-06-2002, 11:58 AM
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Joe's auto vs. my 6spd
Quite a few posts about how unusually fast Joe's auto (I hope that's the name of the owner!) CL-S is. I don't think it will beat a 6spd. Worst case is the 6spd spins a little too much off-the-line, but not with a good driver.
You arn't in Southern California by some chance eh?
You arn't in Southern California by some chance eh?
09-06-2002, 03:10 PM
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Hey, I am not on joe's balls or nothing but, I believe him when he post his stories. HE raced one of our own 6spd members and the dude (6spd) lost. It's believable that he can. A few members even drove his car, and can contest.
09-06-2002, 03:58 PM
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allright SiGGy, i'll be in kansas in 27 hrs.
it's on.
it's on.
09-06-2002, 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by mattg
allright SiGGy, i'll be in kansas in 27 hrs.
it's on.
allright SiGGy, i'll be in kansas in 27 hrs.
it's on.
I better just unbolt my door now before you come.
Ya, I'd loose badly. I wish my CLS without NX would turn the times yours does... Kinda frustrating... Next time I go to KCIR here I'll take all of my crap out.
Have a good weekend man
09-06-2002, 10:25 PM
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how fast have you run on the squeeze?
have a good one yourself.
have a good one yourself.
09-08-2002, 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by mattg
how fast have you run on the squeeze?
have a good one yourself.
how fast have you run on the squeeze?
have a good one yourself.
I dunno yet :-/ I could guess. But I won't bother. I'll have it at the track in a few weeks. I'm waiting for this 100deg weather to go away.
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